This is it, we are at the end of the road, please watch!

Well that's the plan anyway.

I think there are a few wildcards that will suddenly develop in world events. The elite demigods plan will fail but will show us the staggering level of evil operating under our noses. That is my guess. Then, with the wildcards flying all around us, making themselves a paradigm shift in our collective views, all bets are off.

Interesting times.

ZG

Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by gam3pr0

 

So if you are in a marriage and your spouse is beating your, raping you, and degrading you whilst forcing you to obey him because he seeks the power in the relationship, maybe it is a good thing and you should just let him do it because eventually you will get used to it. Correct?

Maybe we should just accept slavery as the best model for us, sure they will toss you a few scraps but you will no longer own a farm, your house, your car, your food, your money, or even your own life, if you think they can manage that better then go for it, walk on over to them and lie down for them. Give yourself over to them if it does not seem like a bad thing to you. But I am sure I can speak on behalf of the over 6 billion people on this planet by saying that is not what we want, we do not want to belong to anyone else, we do not want to be serfs again, we do not want to give them all the wealth and power so that maybe they will spare our lives.

What is the point of living if your life is only for the profit of someone else?

Is it not a misleading assumption, that we are in a marriage type of relationship with elite control freaks? If it is marriage, it is forced upon us, is it not?

Can you not clearly see the evidence, that those who have more power, tend to own those who have less and therefore treat them like their property?

If the fact of the ownership (that they have power over you - not a document) can be established (you have owners - and believe you have), then why do you assume that your owners should care about what you think and what you feel and how you envision the world (free, no slavery...)?

If you could clarify this, that would be great.

I have been preparing since.........."like forever".........and now I dont really care anymore.

reply to post by Misoir


Reading about how the West, and America in particular will 'open its doors' to the nations that it had seeded hatred within, makes me think of the third prophetic vision of George Washington; you know the one, where he was greeted by an angel in his study, who showed him three visions of the Union he was to help create (USA).

In that prophetic vision, he saw the nations of the world laid out like a map in front of him; he saw two tribulations (some believe them to have been the American civil war and the Second World War). The third tribulation started when a black cloud of malevolence and violence formed in African nations and within Europe/ Middle East - it then spread to the USA, bringing with it violence, pestilence, international/ guerilla warfare and mortal combat between citizens. This was to be the final trial before the End, and from which the USA would arise a nation truly under God (and thankfully not under the NWO)...

The intentionally provocative actions of the CIA from way back when, as a means to incite the kind of anti-West hatred that serves the NWO, makes good sense to my mind - I believe we are seeing the beginnings of an attempted 'run' on nationalism - the PTB want a one world government. However, I believe that China will actually strive to stand independently from the NWO, and this will lead to all out war between the last remaining superpowers and the NWO formative nations. Russia and China will aggressively combat the NWO, and this will lead to a horrendous destabilisation between all nations (WW3). I have tentatively concluded this based on the political posturing of China in recent times, and the ongoing stand-offishness of Russia. My dreams serve to confirm that some sort of major conflict of this nature is forthcoming in the very near future.


Many people are having seemingly prophetic dreams in these days, myself included. After three dreams in the past two months showing similar outcomes (two of the dreams were mine, one came as a 'confirmation' from my wife), I will be purchasing N.B.C. protective apparel for me and the family as soon as I possibly can.

The dreams very clearly showed a chemical attack upon the United Kingdoom, launched by jet fighters coming from the North. They weren't Eurofighters, but I can't be sure at this time exactly what they were. The chemical agent was absolutely grotesque - it literally melted people's skin and flesh from their bones. Those I saw that were affected were caught unawares, and had been carrying out ordinary activities... Kids were on their way back from school, people were picking up milk and bread from the corner shops - I can only surmise that it was a sneak attack, carried out by a secretly aggressive nation, under the guise of a 'routine sortie' past our airspace. The details were shown to me by someone (within the dream) who had been forced to record what had happened, and to show it to me (and possibly others) as a warning of what was to come (a bit like the plot of the film, Twelve Monkeys)...

To the naysayers who don't believe in prophecy - take it or leave it. I always like to consider all angles of a situation - with an ongoing narrative in my dreamlife now for the past fifteen years, always pointing to different and very detailed/ specific aspects of the same major conflict (WW3), and with confirmations coming from random people across the globe also having similar dreams, I've learned to take them seriously. Many of my wife's dreams have come true, and often in regard to predictions that we wouldn't have suspected/ imagined... That she had a confirming dream of this particular incident makes me take it all the more seriously.

I hope that the information helps someone to be prepared in the eventuality that any suspicion of possible aggression against the UK is forthcoming.

Originally posted by fellowsoul
reply to post by HazyChestNutz

 

I'm an extra-terrestrial shaman.
I will disturbingly melt you with my Vatican linguistics.
I'm on a quest.

Haha, you sure you're not just Charlie Sheen?

I'm a fan by the way

reply to post by FlyInTheOintment


STAR!

I have heard of the prophecies before but never have I read them. I read them after reading your post, definitely very amazing and scary accurate.

THIRD AND MOST FEARFUL PERIL
"Then my eyes beheld a fearful scene. From each of these continents arose thick black clouds that were soon joined into one. And throughout this mass there gleamed a dark red light by which I saw hordes of armed men. These men, moving with the cloud, marched by land and sailed by sea to America, which country was enveloped in the volume of cloud. And I dimly saw these vast armies devastate the whole country and ~ the villages, towns and cities which I had seen springing up." "As my ears listened to the thundering of the cannon, clashing of the swords, and the shouts and cries of millions in mortal combat, I again heard the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn." Where the voice had ceased, the dark shadowy angel placed his trumpet once more to his mouth, and blew a long and fearful blast."

HEAVEN INTERVENES
"Instantly a light as of a thousand suns shone down from above me, and pierced and broke into fragments the dark cloud which enveloped America. At the same moment the angel upon whose head still shown the word UNION, and who bore our national flag in one hand, and a sword in the other, descended from the heavens attended by, legions of white spirits. These immediately joined the inhabitants of America, who I perceived were well-nigh overcome, but who immediately taking courage again, closed up their broken ranks and renewed the battle." "Again, amid the fearful noise of the conflict I heard the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn.' As the voice ceased the shadowy angel for the last time dipped water from the ocean and sprinkled it upon America. Instantly the dark cloud rolled back, together with the armies it had brought, leaving the inhabitants of the land victorious."

"Then once more, I beheld the villages, towns and cities springing up where I had seen them before, while the bright angel, planting the azure standard he had brought in the midst of them, cried with the loud voice: "While the stars remain, and the heaven send down dew upon the earth, so long shall the UNION last." And taking from his brow the crown on which blazoned the word 'UNION,' he placed it upon the Standard while the people, kneeling down, said 'Amen."

www.civil-liberties.com...

reply to post by niceguybob


i'm not saying things aren't moving exceptionally fast considering the times. but i've just heard "everything is by design" so much by not just the good pastor here, but by a number of people like alex jones and ones like him. so even when we do start to want real change and work towards revolution, it's still "by design." if truly everything is by design, what's the point? hard not to get a helpless feeling when you're told that even when you work towards bettering everything you're still playing into "their" hand.

basically saying "no matter what, this is happening and there's nothing you can do to stop that." it all sounds awfully familiar, but his track record isn't exactly all false predictions either.

reply to post by FIFIGI


interesting you compare it to marriage. comparing it to "divorce" comes to mind as well.

reply to post by HazyChestNutz


Ever stopped to think that they're already here and thats why we're going through this s&%t.

Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

I have read about that numerous times. My only problem with that psalm however is that the tribes and kingdoms it mentions are located only in Northwestern Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Gaza, Sinai Peninsula of Egypt, and in Northern Iraq. While these countries may turn strongly against Israel none of them, even all organized together, would have enough power to create World War 3, not even close. Israel could wipe all them out in a matter of weeks.

Now what could have happened is that these tribes and kingdoms expanded outward; North, East, South, and West. From possibly Persia to Morocco, this was almost two thousand years ago mind you.

My conclusion is that taking that psalm literally as-is it would be virtually impossible for them to cause world war 3.

With all due respect, I believe you're being naive to think that it wouldn't drag in the United States, Russia, Iran, Great Brittan, Canada etc. Revelation speaks of the time in the end when a man will work a day for enough money to buy just one loaf of bread. If the oil producing states, especially Saudi Arabia, were to be engaged in a great war the price of gas could hit $10 a gallon.

This will mean global war.

Originally posted by the_0bserver85
I have been preparing since.........."like forever".........and now I dont really care anymore.

Me too

The subtext of this artice is now now now

The economics behind it is real and the crash should happen. However, the elites have manufactured enough money to keep the world economy on the dole forever.

If the crash doesn't happen, we will be owned forever. The crash should have happened in the 1970's.

It will take two elections, one to put in the We're-really-really-gonna-fixit-this-time-honest! who don't fix it, and then an election with radical action in the platform of all parties. The radical action will cause the system to crash or the results of the election itself will cause a civil-war. If it doesn't happen by 2020 we will all be chipped -- end of non-hive individuallity.

Probably wont happen for a few years yet. I'm guessing 2015-17 will be the last chance.

Originally posted by The GUT

No matter our personal persuasions/beliefs, we all know that something epic is coming our way soon, right?

You have no idea, and it is probably better that way.

Being oblivious is nice, too bad some of us have no choice.

I suspect the people who fancy themselves as the NWO think if they control the money, food and medicines etc they will simply without any personal exposure or major risk take over, I do think that we are more likely to riot and that causes destabilization etc to that NWO's nice apple pie world.

I suspect the only way you would ever get the peoples of the world to unite under a type of world government would be if the planet faced a threat from off world.

However I wonder if the immediate threat here is a possibility of truth behind the information that Saudi is 40% less on its reserves than originally calculated and at full pumping capacity so consequently with no extra pumping power Libya currently, although only contributing 2%, which sounds tiny but is essentially massive when it comes to world demand and keeping everything going.

Regarding the vested interest parties that would have us rush out and attack Iran, doesn't China get some of her oil there and consequently would be somewhat miffed if we were to comply. Also Russia has a good relationship with Iran and would hardly welcome another war on her borders and may well back Iran.

Misoir,

I respect you as an individual, and agree with many of your thoughts, but must disagree with you here on this one.

Lindsay Williams is a con-artist. He hasn't been right all the time as is constantly sprayed out by equally dubious con artist, Alex Jones. They are preying on people's ignorance.

All you have to do is know the basics on economics and oil to see how and why this is unfolding. The chump, Mr. Williams, is falsifying intent and causation practically nonstop. What I found was several times, if you simply took the link he claimed, and redirected the flow in the opposite direction, much more sense seemed to be made.

For example, he talks of the riots in the ME happening to cause oil prices to go up. That's utter nonsense, and in fact we could see more sense being explained from the prices of oil already haven risen, in part, causing the roits to breakout in the first place.

This guy basically takes what someone of above average intellect, who has knowledge on the state of the world, could easily deduce, and puts an "evil elite, NWO" twist on it that sells him books/dvd's. He's a con-artist now, likely the same as he was as a pastor.

Not buying it.

You know when I read thread's like this they all have one thing in common,they imply that no one is aware or listoning and we all have our heads in the sand and are letting this happen.One word, anonymity.Why has it gone so far you say,because this is the way of human's,this is who we are,this is what as human's we do to each other,this is what we have always done through out history and this is what we will always do but that does not mean we will just sit and take it.

The unique thing about human's and being predator's is we adapt and get better at what it take's to survive in a manner of witch we are accustom.American's are accustom to "freedom' .When the time come's the people that would take our freedom will be delt with in a manner "THEY" never imagined.

Complicate this all you want,lead the fool's to belive that we are just sitting here and will do nothing....................You are the fool if you belive that.

Originally posted by The GUT
And some folk think that the book of Revelations is a "fairytale." Ahem.

I do want to thank Misoir, burntheships, and iamahumandoing for breaking this down so brilliantly and helping me to understand the issue(s) presented.

From my humble viewpoint--I muse & ponder whether we can actually do anything about it? Probably not. Other than prepare for TSHTF in advance of ITEOTWAWKI.

It's not all gloom and doom, however, as I think that if & when the world goes wonky we will ALL be presented with the chance, or maybe a better term is "choice," to stand up for Love and resist Wrong no matter what the personal cost.

And what I basically mean by that is don't let anything happen to your neighbor that you wouldn't want to happen to yourself.

No matter our personal persuasions/beliefs, we all know that something epic is coming our way soon, right? S&F.

edit on 5-3-2011 by The GUT because: (no reason given)

We all need to make sure we are studying our history. A couple of good sources below:

Martin Niemoller was a decorated u-boat captain in the First World War but subsequently became a minister of religion and a relatively high profile opponent of the Nazis as they increasingly gained firm hold of the reins to power in Germany.

Niemoeller was active as a leader in a so-called Pastors' Emergency League and in a Synod that denounced the abuses of the dictatorship in the famous "Six Articles of Barmen." Such activities finally led to his arrest on 1 July 1937. When the subsequent court appearance was followed by his release with only a modest 'slap on the wrist' Hitler personally ordered his incarceration with the result that Niemoeller remained in concentration camp, including long periods of solitary confinement, until the end of the war.

Niemoller occasionally traveled internationally after the war and delivered many speeches and sermons in which he confessed of his own blindness and inaction in earlier years when the Nazi regime rounded up the communists, socialists, trade unionists, and, finally, the Jews.

In this regard he framed a now famous quotation that is often presented in a corrupted form. Niemoller himself however lived through the events associated with the Nazi seizure of absolute power and knew which groups had been persecuted by the Nazis and also knew the order in which those groups had come particularly under persecution.

First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me--
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

George Santayana, who, in his Reason in Common Sense, The Life of Reason, Vol.1, wrote "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Read more: wiki.answers.com...

What makes you people think the NWO isn't already active and in place?

A person or group of people wouldn't actually need one physical currency or one physical government of puppets to effectively rule the world. The only thing you would need is collusion. There is already a one world government that has been operating for some time. It is not visible and does not want to be visible to the common man. It hides behind a complex system of world governments and economies. You are all waiting for it to expose itself with some grand symbolic gesture that will never happen.

The world events that you are witnessing is the removal from power of puppets who no longer want to accept their master's orders.

Originally posted by Albastion


It's interesting how you are willing to believe one Russian news source is telling the truth, but you think that the entire western media including CNN, BBC, and Middle Eastern news sources as well, like Al-Jazeera, are all lying.

Even if the Russian news source isnt telling the truth, I can speak for myself as to why its so easy to feel that all the Western media is lying to us.

Because they are. They used to dress propaganda up and really disguise it to make us believe it. Nowdays, I dont know what the hell happened, but beginning with 9-11 and worsening over time, they are almost mocking us the propaganda is so right on the surface. The main media news outlets are barely more "newsy" than the Colbert Report, and The Daily Show. Fox news is an insult to the intelligence of anyone with an IQ over 75.

Its just gone so far that they have totally destroyed any credibility they have had, and now we HAVE to question every single thing they tell us, because we have caught them in out right lies and propaganda campaigns. (the war on Iraq) One of the problems with asking the question of your media every single day, "how do I know this is true" is a problem philosophers discussed hundreds of years ago. You dont. Almost everything we know is hearsay, and once you begin to doubt the source of most of your information, that knowledge further undermines your confidence in your sources.

Its easier to believe the Russian media because we have no negative experience with them. In other words, we have not yet caught they flat out lying to us. Our media has been caught out flat out lying to us. Its not that we are unpatriotic, its that we are rational, and any rational person questions the validity of evidence presented by known liars.

Originally posted by Fractured.Facade

Originally posted by The GUT

No matter our personal persuasions/beliefs, we all know that something epic is coming our way soon, right?

You have no idea, and it is probably better that way.

Being oblivious is nice, too bad some of us have no choice.

While I must say, fractured.facade, that I truly enjoy many of your posts here, it's posts like the above that suggest to me that you ought to join forces with the likes of Hidden-Hand, John Titor, and Bernard Schnitzel (see link in my signature.)

Then again, maybe not: They at least provided some elaboration of what they meant and weren't just some avatar claiming to profess some superior knowledge that the rest of us poor goons lack.

Like I said: I really do enjoy and star some of your posts, and if you would care to elaborate further on your "knowledge" I will more than gladly listen and, if warranted, graciously apologize. Peace.