Wisconsin Senate passes resolution calling for Democrats to be taken into police custody

UNIONS LOSE! (as I predicted)

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Republicans in the Wisconsin Senate voted Wednesday night to strip nearly all collective bargaining rights from public workers after discovering a way to bypass the chamber's missing Democrats.

All 14 Senate Democrats fled to Illinois nearly three weeks ago, preventing the chamber from having enough members present to consider Gov. Scott Walker's so-called "budget repair bill" - a proposal introduced to plug a $137 million budget shortfall.

The Senate requires a quorum to take up any measures that spend money. But Republicans on Wednesday split from the legislation the proposal to curtail union rights, which spends no money, and a special conference committee of state lawmakers approved the bill a short time later.

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Oh - LaDiDa

Pat yourself on the back and give yourself a Twinkie.

Its a new world. Stolen elections and Corporate Dictatorships.

Is this supposed to be a surprise?

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I wouldn't hold your breath considering the tactic used is on dubious legal grounds. The vote during the hastily scheduled Committee meeting broke the rules for Wisconsin's "open government" laws. Funny how in the end this wasn't about a balanced budget at all. It was about Union busting and striping away right of collective bargaining.

We'll have to wait and see how this plays out legally. In short: Fat Lady ain't singing just yet.

Originally posted by Annee

Does anyone honestly believe the President has all that much power to do exactly what he wants?

I would guess if you conducted a poll that the majority of the American people believe the president calls the shots to a significant enough degree that he owns the policies of his administration. If my vote counts for anything, he gets voted out next year. Period. Yes. I believe the president is the most powerful single man on the planet. The only power we have is the vote. I suspect even that has been undermined but we try anyway.

Originally posted by spicypickle
If my vote counts for anything, he gets voted out next year. Period. Yes. I believe the president is the most powerful single man on the planet. The only power we have is the vote. I suspect even that has been undermined but we try anyway.

I am not telling anyone else what to believe. Only expressing my own beliefs.

Do I think votes pick the most charismatic candidate? Yes.

Originally posted by Annee

Yes - I still think the constant Obama bashing is childish and negative.

It's supposed to be negative. Too bad. He earned it. It's not like we're doing it for no reason. I was actually stupid enough to believe his empty rhetoric and his endless lies before he was elected. I don't like being lied to by people who ask for my vote.

Anyway, it isn't all negative. I got something positive out of the deal. I discovered the true nature of the left in this country. It's a lesson I'll never forget. I grew up believing their propaganda. I don't necessarily think the right is any better but the left is far more insidious (and I believe) far more dangerous in the long run.

Originally posted by Annee
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Oh - LaDiDa

Pat yourself on the back and give yourself a Twinkie.

Its a new world. Stolen elections and Corporate Dictatorships.

Is this supposed to be a surprise?

And sour grapes (from you) is hardly a surprise.

Please offer reputable proof that the elections in Wisconsin were "stolen", or stop posting childish-sounding drivel.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by spicypickle
If my vote counts for anything, he gets voted out next year. Period. Yes. I believe the president is the most powerful single man on the planet. The only power we have is the vote. I suspect even that has been undermined but we try anyway.

I am not telling anyone else what to believe. Only expressing my own beliefs.

Do I think votes pick the most charismatic candidate? Yes.

I'm with ya on that. From what I've seen, that's exactly what votes pick - for better or for worse.

People are so shallow, aren't they?

Originally posted by Annee

To me its childish to attack and blame the figurehead. But - of course - that is exactly what is the purpose of a figurehead.

edit on 9-3-2011 by Annee because: spelling

Very true, but in the end the President will take credit for everything positive he can...so to be fair he earns the blame for every failure.

Does it make logical sense? Nope. But thats politics.

Example...Pres. Obama said he would close Gitmo, I know he tried, I know the GOP fought him successfully at every turn..."Terrorists brought to the USA for trial!!!" ...as if they would break free and bomb us all.

But...I still have a hard time letting the Pres. off the hook..Promise broken...like I said he will take credit where maybe he didn't earn it...so he should accept blame when maybe it's not his fault...thus is the job of POTUS.

Now...when people claim it is his desire to keep Gitmo open...well that just fails factually and I have to call BS where I see it.

Originally posted by centurion1211
Please offer reputable proof that the elections in Wisconsin were "stolen", or stop posting childish-sounding drivel.

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Not so much "stolen" but purchased by the Koch brothers.

Koch brothers quietly open lobbying office in downtown Madison
host.madison.com...

Koch Brothers Fill Up Walker's Campaign Tank
www.onewisconsinnow.org...

As for the gloating over stomping on the middle class and celebrating the untouchability of the wealthiest 1% who created the financial crisis...Bloomberg just released a Poll showing that 64% of Americans, both Republican and Democrat[ opposed what Walker did.

Should make for interesting times at the Ballot box.

Two months in and the country has the biggest case of buyers remorse since Nixon was elected....maybe more so.

A poll out today by the Wisconsin Policy Research Institute shows President Obama’s and Republican Gov. Scott Walker’s approval ratings heading in opposite directions.

Obama’s approval rating sits at a comfortable 53%-42%, above the national average, and a nine-point improvement in the poll from November. (In November -- after the Democrats' shellacking in the midterms -- the president’s approval in the poll was split at 44%-43%.)

By contrast, Walker’s approval rating is upside down – with 43% approving and 53% disapproving of how he’s handling his job. Walker’s “strongly disapprove” is a sky-high 45%

Americans who thought...what the heck, let's give the GOP a chance are now thinking GOD HELP US ALL as the GOP has declared open war on the middle class.

Thank God we still have elections in the USA...and not even the Koch brothers have enough money to convince the middle class that taking it up the &^% for the misdeeds of Billionaires is a good thing.

The GOP should gloat all it can...have a good time before they realize they have sunk thier own ship.

64% percent of all Americans think what Walker did sucked...Compare that to election or favorability ratings of times past...The tide has turned in a BIG way...and just two months in.

Originally posted by maybereal11
Very true, but in the end the President will take credit for everything positive he can...so to be fair he earns the blame for every failure.

Does it make logical sense? Nope. But thats politics.

Example...Pres. Obama said he would close Gitmo, I know he tried, I know the GOP fought him successfully at every turn..."Terrorists brought to the USA for trial!!!" ...as if they would break free and bomb us all.

Oh absolutely! I just don't believe the president today has the power many think he has. I don't think there was ever the possibility that Gitmo would be closed. I do believe Obama was being honest in his belief it should be closed.

I don't want to go all conspiracy here - in this thread - but do believe there is plans and a major behind the scenes push to a One World Corporate Government. I really believe a lot of "behind the curtain" control is going on.

In the meantime we do our duty and celebrate or blame the Figurehead. Exactly as we are supposed to do.

The behavior of the GOP in Wisconsin should be very telling. This force is going to do what they want - even breaking laws - - - they are not going to take NO for an answer. Our world is changing.

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The NY Times all but agrees with you ...Less conspiracy...more fact.

Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead (Must Read)
www.nytimes.com...

Justices Scalia And Thomas's Attendance At Koch Event Sparks Judicial Ethics Debate
www.huffingtonpost.com...

Originally posted by Annee

Oh absolutely! I just don't believe the president today has the power many think he has. I don't think there was ever the possibility that Gitmo would be closed. I do believe Obama was being honest in his belief it should be closed.

Revisionist "history" at its finest.

Obama never said Gitmo "should" be closed.

Instead, obama quite clearly and repeatedly said he would close Gitmo.

And he could have any time he felt like it. Problem is (for him) after obama won the election and started to get the briefings, he realized that closing Gitmo would in fact be a bad move.

Tell us all that obama wouldn't have taken any opportunity he could to keep his promise, but he did not.

Also note that obama is not blaming Republicans for this like you are attempting to do, he is just keeping quiet.

Perhaps that is because obama finally understands the situation better than you do.

Perhaps it's also the reason he decided to sign the extension of the Patriot Act.

Originally posted by centurion1211
And he could have any time he felt like it.

Do not agree.

Discussion over.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by centurion1211
And he could have any time he felt like it.

Do not agree.

Discussion over.

Perhaps for you.

However, since you are not in charge - of anything here - the discussion WILL carry on as long as at least two people decide to keep it going.

Originally posted by maybereal11
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The NY Times all but agrees with you ...Less conspiracy...more fact.

Interesting article. A bit too flag wavy sentimental IMO.

I'm realistic. There's always been power plays - backdoor money - stolen elections - etc. Americans like to romanticize - - - like we were all patriotic honest citizens in the "good old days". Which is not true.

The difference today - - is we are up against a wall. There's no new land to move to and start a new government. We are not going to stop the money and power.

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Gov. Scott Walker signed the law today and the world did not come to an end.
As i look up into the sky i don't see any asteroids crashing down and ending civilization as we know it.
All is well. Hopefully soon Wisconsin will begin to look like the great state of Illinois.
Gov. Mitch Daniels grabbed power away from the unions down there and now they have a surplus!

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
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Gov. Scott Walker signed the law today and the world did not come to an end.

His chance for re-election sure did.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
All is well. Hopefully soon Wisconsin will begin to look like the great state of Illinois.
Gov. Mitch Daniels grabbed power away from the unions down there and now they have a surplus!

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You are out of your mind.

Illinois faces a budget shortfall of more than $11 billion.

SPRINGFIELD — When it comes to money, Illinois is among the worst-off states in the country, a national think tank reported Wednesday.
qctimes.com...

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Gov. Mitch Daniels is governor of Indiana, not Illinois.

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Yes, that would be the great state of Indiana. oops. At least i got the Gov. Mitch Daniels right.