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Originally posted by OldCorp
If Obama is not a Muslim:
1. Why does his paternal grandmother in Kenya insist, to this day, that she was present at his birth in that country?
2. When he went to Pakistan, what passport did he travel under? At the time, US citizens were FORBIDDEN to travel there, so he must have used a passport from a different country.
3. If Obama is a Christian, why has he stepped foot into a Christian church only 3 times since his inauguration? Why does he refuse to celebrate Christmas? TIME MAGAZINE
Another source (where I lifted the following quote)
The number of Americans who expressed uncertainly about the president's religion, meanwhile, is much larger and has also grown, including among Obama's political base. For instance, fewer than half of Democrats and African-Americans now say that Obama is Christian.
4. Why has he sealed his college transcripts (I'd especially like to know if he got funding for foreign students while at Occidental.)
5. Why has he spent millions of dollars on lawyers battling requests for his original, long-form Hawaii birth certificate when the question can be answered with a $10 money order? Take your pick of sources...
6. Why does Obama have multiple (16-39 depending on the source) Social Security numbers? Good luck with this one. Again, multiple sources, and some of them are even legit!
From Snopes.com Forum:
"One of the Social Security numbers for Barack Obama is tied to the Senate Hart Office Building 713 in Washington, DC. It's safe to conclude there was only one Barack Obama in the Senate. That SS# starts with 282. Yet Obama's recent tax returns list a SS# that starts with 042. With a disparity like that, it lends instant credence to the possible fraudulence of other SS#'s tied to Barack Obama. Each one proved to be false would be a felony fraud count. Until this news is proven to be wrong, it looks like we quite possibly have a serial felon occupying the WH."
I pulled that particular quote because if true, it is DAMNING evidence, and it should be easy enough to debunk.
I might have more later, but this should do for now.
Please don't try to feed me any of the regurgitated pablum being fed to the masses by the Obamas, the Dems, or the Lame Stream Media. You people are supposed to be the best at debunking BS, so by all means - DEBUNK AWAY (With ATS standards of acceptable proof.)
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Originally posted by OldCorp
If Obama is not a Muslim:
1. Why does his paternal grandmother in Kenya insist, to this day, that she was present at his birth in that country?
I assume you mean his step-grandmother, Sarah Onyango Obama; his actual grandmother died in 2006, and is thus of course completely unable to say anything "to this day." In either case, we're looking at a lady who is over ninety years old; it's entirely possible that she's honestly mistaken.
2. When he went to Pakistan, what passport did he travel under? At the time, US citizens were FORBIDDEN to travel there, so he must have used a passport from a different country.
No they weren't. it was recommended that US citizens not go to Pakistan, but there was no Cuba-style embargo on travel. Even if there were, it's easy enough to get into Cuba if you want to. Technically illegal, but hey, so is smoking marijuana.
3. If Obama is a Christian, why has he stepped foot into a Christian church only 3 times since his inauguration? Why does he refuse to celebrate Christmas? TIME MAGAZINE
Another source (where I lifted the following quote)
D'ya know that plenty of Christians don't go to church except maybe on an occasional Easter? And most of them aren't busy leading a country. How often did Bush go to church? or clinton, for that matter? They must have been Hindus!
The number of Americans who expressed uncertainly about the president's religion, meanwhile, is much larger and has also grown, including among Obama's political base. For instance, fewer than half of Democrats and African-Americans now say that Obama is Christian.
Well, when the media's full of liars like yourself actively trying to create this result... Of course, popular opinion does not change fact; even if it did, a man's choice of religion is irrelevant under US law. Something bigots and fascists often tend to forget.
4. Why has he sealed his college transcripts (I'd especially like to know if he got funding for foreign students while at Occidental.)
5. Why has he spent millions of dollars on lawyers battling requests for his original, long-form Hawaii birth certificate when the question can be answered with a $10 money order? Take your pick of sources...
Because amazingly, his personal records are not your damned business, any more than yours are his.
6. Why does Obama have multiple (16-39 depending on the source) Social Security numbers? Good luck with this one. Again, multiple sources, and some of them are even legit!
From Snopes.com Forum:
"One of the Social Security numbers for Barack Obama is tied to the Senate Hart Office Building 713 in Washington, DC. It's safe to conclude there was only one Barack Obama in the Senate. That SS# starts with 282. Yet Obama's recent tax returns list a SS# that starts with 042. With a disparity like that, it lends instant credence to the possible fraudulence of other SS#'s tied to Barack Obama. Each one proved to be false would be a felony fraud count. Until this news is proven to be wrong, it looks like we quite possibly have a serial felon occupying the WH."
I pulled that particular quote because if true, it is DAMNING evidence, and it should be easy enough to debunk.
You pulled that particular quote, and gave a link only to a single post, because the rest of the thread you pulled it from does indeed debunk the claim. As well as the claim about his college records. Seriously, you could put some effort into your false information.
I might have more later, but this should do for now.
Please don't try to feed me any of the regurgitated pablum being fed to the masses by the Obamas, the Dems, or the Lame Stream Media. You people are supposed to be the best at debunking BS, so by all means - DEBUNK AWAY (With ATS standards of acceptable proof.)
"Within ATS standards of acceptable proof"? That's rich, given you're claiming a woman is speaking from beyond the grave, and you have intentionally obfuscated your own source because it debunks your claims. As the claimant, you are the one who needs to bring proof; you have failed to do so, instead supplying false information.
By ATS standards, this is a T&C violation. However, those standards are apparently no longer enforced, so, lucky youedit on 4/3/2011 by TheWalkingFox because: (no reason given)
Well, when the media's full of liars like yourself actively trying to create this result
Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
It's funny, they say this is what the right wingers believe, but in reality, it's what the talking heads are telling them to believe, and not many will fall for it
In the past few years, paranoid conservatives have cooked up all sorts of conspiracy theories about President Barack Obama
Originally posted by Doomzilla
they are trying to create a ONE world order .
Originally posted by Kingbreaker
my question is why do Muslim's build a mosque at every location they conquer?
Why do christians (especially the catholic church) build churches and cathedrals in every location white man sets foot on/conquers)?
Why does he refuse to celebrate Christmas?
HONOLULU - President Barack Obama capped a quiet Christmas Saturday with a surprise visit to a Marine base to thank U.S. troops for the sacrifices they've made, including being away from their families at the holidays.
Originally posted by Sestias
reply to post by cyberjedi
I'll bet you wouldn't post this picture if they were white guys (yes, white people also do stupid and offensive things). You wouldn't say, "Look how uncivilized white guys like President Bush are."
Originally posted by MrXYZ
People criticizing a president based on faith, or how he lives out his faith, makes me wanna puke. We live in the 21st century, enough with the fairy tales already!!
Originally posted by cyberjedi
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Originally posted by cyberjedi
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Originally posted by Tyrson
their revolts this is a terrible thing for all free people and only fools believe anything good can come off it.
Originally posted by Kingbreaker
In 630, Muhammad led 10,000 Muslim soldiers into Mecca and turned the pagans’ most prominent spot, the Ka’aba, into the Masjid al-Haram Mosque.