Hoax Or Real?

I didn't see this here anywhere. Ignore if you did already but i wanted to know if someone can analyze this video and tell me what you think of it. Look really real to me but you never know with all the hoaxs out here now and days.

Yes I have seen about him before. One debunker attempted to do a similar video to how this guy takes them, thoough a skylight, but the attempt looks definate hoax---the objects look flat with the background---HOWEVE by saying this I am real skeptic and am at an I DONT KNOW, OK?

But what I would really like to do is this--if anyone can help cool--is get his email address. Ask him that if it is so that this seeing of UFOs is a common occurance, to ask people he knows, or even people he could ask to be part of an experiment to be contacted when he sees these UFOs--and for them then to take footage of the object from different vantage points. So all I need is his email, and if he avoids contact it will be suspicious to me.

Completely real, Ive seen them myself.

How long has this debate been going on for now? I dont understand how people cant accept this. Isnt it obvious there is other life out there that has/is visiting us? To say aliens dont exist is to say we are alone in the universe. Thats crazy talk.

Its just so obvious I dont understand why we are not asking some serious questions. Our governments obviously have information on this and obviously take it extremely seriously. It is common knowledge to anyone who knows anything that we are being visited. Quit bickering over videos and lets demand some real answers.

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Isnt it obvious there is other life out there that has/is visiting us? To say aliens dont exist is to say we are alone in the universe.

no, and finding a valid UFO video (one that isn't obviously a hoax) doesn't mean it's a ship full of intelligent aliens either. Saying ufos aren't alien ships visiting us is rational, and in no way excludes the possibility of life outside our little sphere. In fact, it's undeniable that life will exist outside this planet, is that life intelligent enough to build ships and travel here? Probably not, but there is always that chance.

Aliens by your definition would be intelligent, humanoid star trek aliens. Every honest scientist will tell you we shouldn't expect that at all. Life evolves to fit into it's environment and there's no reason to assume it will look like anything we can recognize.

Alien, by my definition and those leaning toward science, reflects any form of life, however simple it might be, that evolved off-world. The tiniest microbe we might find on mars or it's moons would be alien life. It's out there, we arguably already proved it with mars missions.

It's a far hop from that to space faring civilizations flying here and peeking out behind clouds.

I've seen strange things in the sky myself that for me remain unidentified. This doesn't allow me to take the easy road and call it star trek aliens.

This video, the bit I watched, appears to be filming something. I don't think it's something static on the window, but it's hard to tell distance with the shots used, it could literally be a balloon, it's hard to tell. But I am sure this isn't an editing/effect.

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Check out the previous discussion here.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

the movement seem a little erratic, im sure they are capable of moving all directions but i doubt they would like that...they always seem to look like 2 people are fighting over the controls. Im sure with the technology that it takes to create one of these machines that stability would of been a high priority on the list, but i could be wrong they were created for high speed purposes then at that slow pace they very well could be harder to stay in one spot, generating way too much energy.

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Thanks im guessing people cant agree if it real of not then..... dang it!

As soon as I saw Jaime, I thought.....

High probability of a hoax.

You can see the wires dude.

Why has the guy no footage from outside ? It seems it's always from the skylights in his attic apartment ?
This alone rouses suspicion.
As for Jaime Maussan , well everything is a UFO/OVNI to him !

The objects in the video move very convincingly and that shows they are not models on strings IMO. No wobble to them at all. There seems to be some depth to them also so I do not think they are on glass being moved . In fact some of the footage has spots on the window that do not move with the UFO. That leaves CG , and I do not see evidence of that either.

OK I found it Antonio Urzi--Debunked

Now, one of the comments (maybe more) talk about him making a business out of this--which would ring alarm bells for me.

Anyhow watch this close and see if you can discern anything different between 'real' images of 'UFOs' and the debunker's efforts?

As soon as I saw Jaime, I thought.....

High probability of a hoax.

Yep, me too. Jaime Maussan is usually a good indication you're going to see a hoax, or a bunch of balloons...

As to why no footage from outside..that's simple, because then he wouldn't have the skylight to put the object on and jiggle the camera and/or window, or suspension for the object... (in my opinion)

The objects in the video move very convincingly and that shows they are not models on strings IMO. No wobble to them at all

True...more like sliding around on a window...oops...

I think Jamie Maussan is awesome and I don't care if I get flamed for that lol. Is he wrong sometimes? Sure. Maybe even gullible or too eager to believe. I think he is honest though or that his heart is in the right place.

The guy filming from his room has a debilatating disease fyi.

Edit ^^^^^^ was thinking of a different guy that films from his room, sorry.

Originally posted by Kali74
I think Jamie Maussan is awesome and I don't care if I get flamed for that lol. Is he wrong sometimes? Sure. Maybe even gullible or too eager to believe. I think he is honest though or that his heart is in the right place.

The guy filming from his room has a debilatating disease fyi.

Yes, its called being in league with Jamie!!

As for Jamie being awesome then someone must have changed the meaning of the word HOAXER to awesome. Jamie is a fraudster and a self publicist who sells lots of his c**p knowing its well and truly faked and that I seem to remember was actually proved.

His tv show thrives upon reports made by people from his country that do it to get on the show, he's happy, they are happy, all pure bunk...

I don't know about his heart being in the right place but his wallet certainly is!

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Sliding around on a window my thoughts too !
The object looks like a knob off a kitchen unit or the bit off a pullcord for a bathrrom light ?
As the object doesn't seem flat underneath, and so as it slides on the window it 'roll's' aswell giving it a sense that it's
actually changing it's direction ?
Just my thought's you understand !


Peace

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I cant understand how people think this is on the window. He zooms in and out on the UFO many times. I think that had this been on the window it would have a very different effect.

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So... He lies on the floor and zooms to his hearts content !
Not saying he does but theres a suspicion to me why none of his footage is from
outside his little 'studio' flat !

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I think he airs what he gets, don't shoot the messenger
My point really is, don't assume one way or the other about any photo or video, the source doesn't always matter as your average non-forum user would probably not have a clue as to anything alternative they could do with material.

wrong thread