Why is there no Main Stream Media reporting the Rossi/Focardi E-Cat

reply to post by coolhanddan


Please address these issues before you go around marketing for these guys:

Rossi's 'Journal' ie. Blog

BOARD OF ADVISERS:

Prof. Sergio Focardi (INFN – University of Bologna – Italy)
Prof. Michael Melich (DOD – USA)
Prof. Alberto Carnera (INFM – University of Padova – Italy)
Prof. Pierluca Rossi (University of Bologna – Italy)
Prof. Luciana Malferrari (University of Bologna – Italy)
Prof. George Kelly (University of New Hampshire – USA)
Prof. Stremmenos Christos (Bologna University – Italy)
Richard Noceti, Ph.D. (LTI-global.com)

Remember that this is from their site. Pay close attention to George Kelly.
University of New Hampshire - Physics Dept.

*Note: You will not find a Prof. George Kelly in UNH

There was a Prof. George Kelly but he died and he was in the field of Psychology, not Physics.

You can read about him Here.

George Kelly died in 1967. So unless he was helping them (advising them) from the grave... something is wrong here.


Ross's background Source

In 1979, Andrea Rossi will I get a degree in Chemical Engineering from the University of Kensington, California (USA) also because of the numerous professional credits earned at the University thanks to the numerous patents filed since the first years of his professional career.

The so called "university" that Rossi went to was a diploma mill and they later ended up with an action against them and were shut down.

Please explain why someone who claims to have produced cold fusion has a fake diploma and a non-existent person on their advisory board.

reply to post by boncho


Nice job Boncho, this is what I am leaning towards myself, the more time I look at this the more I do not want to post anymore because it saddens me to think this is a ruse for money, Rossi please for the sake of mankind be truthful.

I will not condemn this man till the Greeks are unhappy though, they are the ones to get this tech and ultimately be the ones to decide if it works or not since there is no peer review.

reply to post by coolhanddan


Unfortunately I don't think there are any Greeks to speak of really. The so called company that is supposedly buying the tech is associated with a person that runs a marketing firm.

Also, interesting on that note is that the Defkalion website was created on Jan 13th of this year. You can see this by doing a whois.

(spec.) This looks like they are trying to raise funds for the company 'defkalion' which agreed to buy but probably with no money in their bank account. I could be wrong on this, but that's what it looks like from the outside.

All they have to do is raise funds to buy the reactor, Rossi and whoever is running Defkalion get paid. Personally, I think doing something like this is incredibly stupid. Why go public with a fraudulent revolutionary technology? This whole thing doesn't make sense. There is a lot more to the story here than is on the surface.

Where is the MSM?
Talking about birth certificates and a dead arab.

You OP, however have uncovered a POSSIBLE media coverup led by the US government, surely they do not want free energy being given away, not with all their donors lining their pockets!

great thread!

I have done extensive market research on the "receptiveness" of the public to the Rossi E-Cat, and low energy nuclear reactions utilizing nickel. My conclusion is that people generally are skeptical about any new energy production technology, but especially one that is as great as the E-Cat. Briefly, using the E-Cat a gram of nickel yields about 1.7 billion calories. That means that a super tanker full of oil (2 billion barrels) would be the energy equivalent of less than one ton of nickel (8 $ per pound at current market rates). Wow.

Being a philosopher, I can explain that people generally avoid non-consensus reality concepts, and have a really hard time imagining things getting much better. Even referring them to the virtually certainty of the legitimacy of the E-Cat technology by internet links to articles on the subject, people almost never read, but instead try to rationalize their previous beliefs using magical thinking. In other words, generally (in almost all instances) people will not believe in the E-Cat's existence or utilizing nickel in a LENR until they see the units working with their own eyes or reported by the MSM multiple times.

July 6th, 2011
(www.mail-archive.com...@eskimo.com/msg48955.html)

Dear interested party, You have received this email because you have shown an initial interest for commercial involvement with our company and our products based on Andrea Rossi’s e-Cat invention (exothermic reaction between Hydrogen and Nickel).

Many have signed non disclosure agreements with us and others are in the
process of doing so. We offer you the possibility to meet with us prior to our public announcement that we accept international expressions of interest through our website as of September 2011.

As such, this letter will update you on our current status, and provide you
with a clearer understanding of the structure with which we are proceeding for all international partnerships. As many of you know, the manner is the same globally.

Regarding exclusivity, having received expressions of interest from 63
countries and more than 850 companies, we decided to change our non-exclusivity approach so that due diligence and selection of multiple partners in any given country is the responsibility off the country rights holder. As such, we will only sign agreements with one company per country. Any additional factories will pass through this partner.
--- ---

Regarding our international sales approach, it is as follows:

• We sell the rights to manufacture our products exclusively to one company
for a given country at a fixed royalty price of 40.5 million Euros per factory producing 300,000 units annually. Within this price, we will:

o Provide the blueprints to establish the factory according to our international standardized plans, including all details for the machinery
/ software / technical know-how used in the factory.

o Provide transfer-of-knowledge (production, technical, after sales,
maintenance) both in Greece as well as on location

• Additional royalties are paid to us for each product sold

• We sell and deliver the industrial secret as a component to the final
product in a black box, plug-and-play module.

• Local company partnerships, marketing, points of sales, technical support
remains the responsibility of the country rights holder.

• If additional factories need to be built, the same principles remain.

• Our business and pricing is structured to create lucrative win-win
opportunities for all.

Regarding time-line and milestones for those interested to proceed in talks:

• Initial meeting in Athens during July and August (except 14-20 July and
10-20 August) to discuss and sign preliminary expression of interest contract, whereby the opportunity to secure the exclusive rights will be given.

• Meeting in our factory during October to inspect and verify kW units

• Meeting in our factory during December to inspect and verify MW units

--- ---
Regarding next steps, and based on the information provided herein, if you
see opportunities that match your company’s capabilities, and if you believe your company qualifies to proceed with further talks, we welcome your reply to this email accordingly in order to:

• Signing of a non disclosure confidentiality agreement sent by us upon
request

• Secure a date for a meeting in Athens during July or August
The abovementioned initial meeting in our offices here in Athens should not
last more than 3-5 hours. Appointments will be set according to availability. As mentioned above, these meetings will take place during July (excluding above dates).

--- ---
Regarding factory specs, below is some basic information regarding the
overview of the factory requirements according to our standards. Many of you will have already seen these figures; nothing has changed:

Larger and smaller factories can be negotiated according to markets. Basic
aspects of each factory producing 300,000 units annually (kW and MW product ranges)are:

• 12,000m2 space (maximum height of 14 meters for half of the allocated
space)

• IT to monitor production line, 1st level support and distribution channels

Assembly of products will include the following activities:

• Build-up of final product (electronics, heat management, etc)

• Assembly of reactors (purchased from Defkalion)

• Quality Control

• Total Quality Management

• Environmental Control

• Stress Tests

• Functional Tests of end products

• Recharging of units

• Recycling procedures

Factory Special Conditions:

• Clear air similar to pharmaceutical industry standards

• Access to constant flow of water

• Heat management of waste heat during tests of modules (this heat energy
could also be used to run the factory’s energy needs with third party
technology)

--- ---
Regarding R&D, it is also the case that some of you seek partnerships in the field of R&D. Such interest is seen favorably, but will be dealt with under case-by-case assessment following a detailed expression of interest. Please note that such talks will take place after October 2011.

--- ---
We would like to reiterate that this communication is made and provided to
you prior to our international announcement in light of your early participation in this exciting endeavor. As of September we shall be open to the world at-large through our new website, which, to date, has received nearly 2 million hits since June 23rd.

We look forward to hearing from you accordingly, and look forward to
welcoming you in Greece soon. You can use the same email ([email protected]) for your replies.

Sincerely,

Symeon Tsalikoglou

Director Business Development & Marketing

Defkalion Green Technologies

reply to post by NeoVain


So this is how they are promoting it to investors...

reply to post by NeoVain


That is incredibly disappointing.
Greed has got us in this planetary energy mess and it seems greed will continue unabated (at least in this case).
Thank god for true humanitarians like Ralph Ring and his team working on open-source FE tech for the good of us all and fk all the business men and women intending to get rich from something as fundamentally necessary for the planet as this.
I will cheer from the rafters as the monetary system comes tumbling down in the next few months and all these guys suddenly realise all they are gonna get from their scheming and egoic machinations is a pat on the back

bumping this thread for two reasons:

1 - Foccardi/Rossi are running tests which are in 'self sustain mode' according to the Italian blog of '22Passi'

2 - Defkalion pulled out of deal with Focardi/Rossi - and the Greek economy is in the balance, and might collapse soon - being a conspiracy website, is there a link? do tptb control things enough to send a message saying "stay out of free energy! or this is what we'll do to you!"?

reply to post by CrastneyJPR


It had nothing to do with Defkalion failing to pay the money they promised to Rossi right?

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