There is no comet elenin??

Hey fellow ats'ers, well i had the day off today so thought id catch up on some info about comet elenin seeing as its supposed to be breaking through the eleptic plane on the 4th of march, and theres not really that much information regarding comet elenin especially from actual astronomers even nasa they dont tell of its size, i just cant seem to find out its size at all, i mean we have its trajectory, the speed its going but its size still eludes me.

anyway while i was hunting for more information i came across this video which claims that comet elenin..is in fact not a comet at all, now leonid elenin (the man who found the comet) found it on an 18" telescope...

the person who uploaded this video used a bigger and better telescope but just couldnt find comet elenin anywhere, BUT where comet elenin should be...in its place he found a brown dwarf, u couldnt see it until he puts it on infrared then u see its heat signal...now surely a comet u would see it without infrared and u would certainly see its tail, but it was nowehere to be found.

have a look at the video..just scroll down...


www.godlikeproductions.com...

I would embed but havent figured that out lol..if someone could embed for me id be extremely gratefull.

So we have that..then we have hilary clinton having and i quote "An unprecedented meeting" of all the U.S ambassadors..what this meeting was about i have no clue and i doubt any of us will either, but all very odd to say the least.

We also have the possibility or we have had the "heads up" that beetlguise could be on the verge of exploding which will give the illusion of a second sun in our skies...hmmmm really? or could this very well be a cover story for something else that may be appearing in our skies in the near future such as maybe...oh i dunno...a brown dwarf?

Im not claiming to know exactly whats going on here, the name elenin itself is somewhat creepy E.L.E nin

E.L.E extinction level event such as the name of the comet in the movie deep impact where the excellent actor morgan freeman played our president....

These are my thoughts on this whole situation...what are yours?

thankyou.

edit* i found out on a thread on here that its size is around 500km?!?! is that right can anyone verify this?
thread ; www.abovetopsecret.com...

mmmm thanks for the thread. Ive never been into godlike pro before, ever. Yet on trying to see your video I get this.....

SORRY - YOUR IP ADDRESS 212.183.140.14 HAS BEEN BANNED FROM VIEWING THIS WEBSITE

Any ideas what this is about?

Respects

reply to post by captiva


Do you use AOL? That site does not like aol users. Try going there through internet explorer.

I was just able to click on the link and view the video. I'll admit it does intrigue me but I've heard pretty much everything. I'm so confused I don't know what to believe anymore. That being said...the Gov't has done their job in confusing the people. Could it truly be a brown dwarf...ya maybe I guess. Will anything truly happen...I'm thinking no. Time will tell and like many, many, other predictions or theories, the event will be passed upon with no impact. And this my friends is a good thing.

reply to post by captiva


no i havent a clue sorry...maybe try what sunnydee above says...
thanks

Very interesting info...

wish i could watch the video ...dial-up it sucks!!

but you have prompted me to do some research...

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


Well, if you're gonna play that game, then I'll play too. Elenin is 6 letters, cut it in half and you've got 2 sets of 3 letters (duh) like Ele--Nin. Now those three letters could be added to like so, Eleven--Nine. Woah! That's the mirror of 9/11! I dunno. I think that these days, ever since Nibiru became popular, people jump on ever space rock they hear about and start shouting, "Nibiru! Hey guys, this is Nibiru!" or something along those lines. I'm not saying that's what you're doing but I tend to be skeptical about celestial bodies on ATS. Maybe you'll prove me wrong though!
Peace!

well when this "comet or brown dwarf" passes through the eliptic and we are able to see it in our skys, if we get news that beetleguise has exploded i think im gunna start preparing my bug out bag....

The video can also be found on YouTube.....




And as an FYI.... sometimes when you follow a GPL link from ATS you will get the "banned IP" message.

reply to post by TheFuzzMonster


thanks for your comment however i dont believe niburu exists
but brown dwarfs do indeed exist....

reply to post by OneisOne


thankyou very much for the embed ..appreciated

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reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


I wish I could get to the site. Is the video found elsewhere, off GLP?
If you've followed my track record of posting on Nibiru/other brown dwarf-related threads, I find physical impossibilities or other issues with most of them. But, this one has me intrigued. I just wish I could see the video.
At least they have their physics right, observationally...a brown dwarf should certainly be most visible in the infrared range.

EDIT: good, the video appeared while I was asking

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


There are a few problems I have with this. First off, it supports the false belief on conspiracy sites that a brown dwarf does not reflect light. In truth a brown dwarf has a composition very similar to Jupiter and reflects light in a similar way. Therefore, if this object were actually in our solar system he would not need to use infrared to spot it. Secondly, either this is the smallest brown dwarf ever or it is so far out as to be nowhere near us. A brown dwarf is several times the magnitude of Jupiter and therefore, to remain hidden for so long would have to be far beyond Pluto. So far in fact that it would be impossible for it to arrive in years, let alone months. This person sounds like a fan of Nancy Lieder and is now applying the claims she made about Comet Hale-Bopp to Comet Elenin.

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder

not really that much information regarding comet elenin especially from actual astronomers even nasa they dont tell of its size

Here's the closest thing I have found of a NASA astrobiologist, mentioning Elenin, and size etc.

Read the full question/answer at given link.

Elenin's perihelion (closest to the Sun) is in early September 2011 at a distance from the Sun of 40-45 million miles. It will be closest to Earth on about 16 October, at a distance of about 21 million miles, which is nearly a hundred times farther than the Moon. The comet never comes close to the Earth, but it is expected to be visible in binoculars during August and October. Part of the Internet chatter concerns its size. Comets are exceedingly small and enveloped in a tenuous cloud of gas and dust, so the only way to be sure of their actual dimensions is to visit with a spacecraft. Half a dozen comets have been the target of spacecraft missions, and all of them (even Comet Halley) are less than 10 km in diameter. There is no reason to think Elenin is any different.

astrobiology.nasa.gov...

The video shows pictures of the the area of the sky where the comet should be according to the videographer, but the pics are unclear, and not very convincing that he's really onto something here. We would really need an expert to decipher if this is bull or not.

Originally posted by EvolEric
Very interesting info...

wish i could watch the video ...dial-up it sucks!!

but you have prompted me to do some research...

sorry u cant see the video, i can maybe explain it for you if that helps

basically in the video he states that the comet was found with an 18" telescope by leonid elenin, so he uses his bigger and better telescope and looks to where it should be in the skys..but cant see it? he looks in a different place near mars and widens his scope to cover a larger area and still cant see it..but what he does find in the place where comet elenin should be is a brown dwarf...brown dwarfs are extremely difficult to see because they arent bright like a star, but they do give off heat so he switches to infrared...and there it is ..this brown dwarf where elenin should be....

so is elenin a cover story? was it really found? especially with an 18" inch telescope? or is it actually a brown dwarf?

Originally posted by captiva
mmmm thanks for the thread. Ive never been into godlike pro before, ever. Yet on trying to see your video I get this.....

SORRY - YOUR IP ADDRESS 212.183.140.14 HAS BEEN BANNED FROM VIEWING THIS WEBSITE

Any ideas what this is about?

Respects

reply to post by Wildeagle


the video has been posted in the thread for all to see
thanks

even if we discount the "brown dwarf" for a second, take that out the mix....how can this man who is using a bigger and better telescope than an 18" one that was used to find the comet..how come he cant find it anywhere? where did it go? if indeed it is a comet..do u think maybe it could have been knocked of course?

its a possibility...i must admit the whole thing smells a bit fishy to me...maybe its all just mere coincedences, but many coincedences make it look..unreal almost.

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


Alrighty, watched the video. Here's CLPrime's take

The astronomy aspects of the video are good. First of all, he does seem to know what he's doing with a telescope. He also knows that a brown dwarf should emit light mostly in the infrared range. I have argued before that a brown dwarf would be visible by now, but cooler brown dwarf are, admittedly, optically dimmer, and they would be indistinguishable from the field of stars.
Unfortunately, he also seems to be your typical conspiracy theorist (chem clouds? *sigh*), which knocks his credibility down a bit, but, if he's truly onto something, he should be able to overcome that. So, is he onto something?

Well, he is right that, where he's looking, there is nothing obvious to suggest the presence of a comet. However, it's debatable whether or not Elenin should have a tail by now. It's just entering the inner solar system, and that's when tails usually start to form. It might be some random, tiny point of light.

But, then, that doesn't account for the object he's pointing out, because that is (as far as I know) not the appearance of a comet. It actually looks like a star with some sort of accretion disk, given its elongated shape. It also matches the description of a brown dwarf, as I said, because it's very dim optically, but it becomes very visible in the infrared.

So, observationally, he has a case. Physically, not so much. This doesn't negate all of the replies I've posted on related threads stating how impossible the "Nibiru" scenario is. Give me a physically stable orbit and a reason why the brown dwarf's gravity is not perturbing the other planets and I will agree that there is possibly something to this.