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Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller
Can it be proven Scientifically that we can in fact change our future or have any control over our destiny ?
Or are we only able to experience what has been prewritten as though reading a book, watching a movie we are part of or experiencing a program ?
If we can change the future how can this be proven if we can’t see the future, and therefore have nothing to compare with, which can prove we can control the future ?
If it can't be proven Scientifically that we can change anything in the future, then are we Slaves to an experience which no one can Edit or change ?
If there is Scientific Proof that we are able to change future events I would be very interested in nowing where I can find this.
I don't like the term "pre-WRITTEN" at all, it implies someone to write.and i don't want to engage in a religious debate.
The questions here is rather whether causality is "real"...or whether we experience causality just because of how our brain works.
We could, in theory, imagine an universe where no time exists, where everything happens "at one point" and all infinite possibilities are available RIGHT
THERE.
(Is Schroedinger's cat dead...is it alive..etc..etc..)
If only our brain can PERCEIVE things in a sequential way (thus creating or needing the illusion of time in the first place)..this would mean we perceive causality as opposed to causality being a real aspect of "the universe".
Can a window break before i actually throw the stone etc...?
If i take a hammer and DECIDE to smash your finger and decide you should have a painful future...is there another reality where i did not smash your finger?
Who decides what reality is becoming the real reality?
Originally posted by akushla99
Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller
Can it be proven Scientifically that we can in fact change our future or have any control over our destiny ?
Or are we only able to experience what has been prewritten as though reading a book, watching a movie we are part of or experiencing a program ?
If we can change the future how can this be proven if we can’t see the future, and therefore have nothing to compare with, which can prove we can control the future ?
If it can't be proven Scientifically that we can change anything in the future, then are we Slaves to an experience which no one can Edit or change ?
If there is Scientific Proof that we are able to change future events I would be very interested in nowing where I can find this.
It occured to me, that, terms...such as 'fact', 'change' and 'future' or 'destiny' are have open-ended meanings, and require a concrete determination of meaning, in relation to any experiment conducted with them.
A fact would assume the knowledge of future, change and destiny upon which to base it on...and then would it be possible to determine, in any way, whether this change was factual, in a scientific way.
When referencing 'change', an original state (or baseline reference) would need to be established. What, indeed, could this be?
The future, by definition, must include all events, with varying degrees of probability. All future events, with all varying probabilities would need to be tabulated, scored and described.
Similarly, destiny.
Destiny assumes a known destination that can be compared to a destination (which does not occur as an event) to prove or disprove its inevitability, either way.
The 'now' represents a locale from which we work from the specifics to the generalities of outcome. With 20/20 hindsight, some decisions would be better left at the juncture of the 'now'...but, of course, this isn't the way it always happens.
Akushla
Not following one or more of these 'steps', will result in varying degrees of 'failure' to produce the baseline 'perfect' pudding. The same steps could be followed by any poser of this question, to...'deliver' an apparent pre-set result, with varying degrees of 'success or failure'. A pudding, though, relies primarily on values such as presentation, firmnesss, give, aroma, bite, taste etc...the same would be difficult to 'value' with regards to all probable and possible future events...yet, as in the illustration above, an 'analogue' can be achieved by following the 'recipe', which then all but proves this is what is true. A different result doesn't disprove...but still proves that a 'recipe' with different steps has been followed to produce a different future result.
Are you sure about "Time" ?
Time is only a human measurement, involving "The rate of change in things".
This is achieved by comparing 2 things...
Originally posted by leaualorin
If any of you have read the Bible , would know that reality is pre-determined and that it cannot be changed !
Maybe slightly , but will "bounce back" on its track wit repercusions for the one that "dissrupted" the course!
And I'm sure of this!
Now, I do understand the bigger picture , however, I think that your future is not pre-determined, but you can make choices that impact your future.
Originally posted by Wildbob77
Write down two random actions on a piece of paper.
Examples, 1.) goto kitchen and drink a glass of water. 2.) go outside and smile at the weather.
Then flip a coin. If it's heads do 1, if tails, do 2.
Now, I do understand the bigger picture , however, I think that your future is not pre-determined, but you can make choices that impact your future.
You can go to college a or b. It's your choice. You choose your destiny.
Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller
reply to post by R3KR
Is it?
Think again....