Trying to find information about Masonic Lodge at Disney

Ok, I am hoping that I am not crazy...

I remember clearly seeing information about a Masonic lodge at Disney (and I do not mean "Club 33").

As I remember it, the door to it was inside the Pirates of the Caribbean ride.

I went to search it to show a friend of mine, and now all that I can find is the Club 33 references. I KNOW I saw this before and I know it wasn't Club 33.

So, all-knowing ATS'ers... can ya help me out here?

reply to post by YourPopRock


I've not heard of any such thing. Walt himself was not a Mason, and it would seem odd that they would either build (or allow) a lodge on their property. But if anyone has documentation stating otherwise, I'd be interested in seeing it.

Edit: It looks like there was a Masonic club for Disney employees. Not a full lodge, but at least a social organization... article here.

reply to post by JoshNorton


I was listening to Freeman discussing symbols and Luciferianism, and he had some outlandish claims about Walt Disney, including having underground tunnels at some of the WD facilities. However, you know how that goes. Here is another interesting piece on WD with regards to the Free Masonry conspiracy issue.

burningtaper.blogspot.com...

Sorry, OP, I would be curious to see if you get anywhere.

I remember this as clear as day. There was a door in the Pirates of the Caribbean ride to a lodge on-site.

I know they had the Disney Masonic Club for employees, but I also remember specifically seeing this door (square and compass on it, the words "Lodge # (and a number)" on it.

But now when I search for it, the internet is flooded with recent articles on club 33. Almost as if it is attempting to be buried.

reply to post by YourPopRock


Well, if there was, it doesn't exist today.

Go to the Grand Lodge of California's website. In the popdown under Become a Member there's a Lodge Locator. Type in Anaheim and look at the results. Looks like the only lodge within the Anaheim city limits (which includes Disneyland) is this one

do you remember where in the ride? or was it like on the line part? if i ever built a lodge it would be in Disneyland

I think you might be talking about Club 33 at Disney Land
www.disneylandclub33.com...

It's in New Orleans Square and is a private restaurant for members only. Only members or people invited by members can dine there.. but it has no Masonic connection despite what some people say.. the wait list to be a member is 14 years lol.

Official reason for the name is that it was an address, 33 Rue Royale Street.

Another explanation is that Walt was a 33rd Degree Mason. I met a Mason named John Glick who worked in Hollywood and stated he had seen Walt attend meetings from time to time but due to his busy schedule, he was not there on a regular basis. In the film industry there are items placed in films called Easter Eggs. Easter Eggs are bits and pieces of other films or items of historical significance, placed there for entertainment by the crew, director, or producer. The concept of the famous "Hidden Mickey" can be called an Easter Egg. Does the club have a few such related Easter Eggs within the walls? Little signs signifying some meaning or association may be present. Another clue, perhaps the most significant in the entire club is the design of this floor. Most cast members are not aware of the significance of this design, but there are those who will instantly recognize the historical and age old meanings. I find the design of the floor to be quite Masonic in design, almost too perfect to be coincidental.

Who knows.. perhaps even WD was a Mason?

reply to post by Rockpuck


Walt was part of DeMolay.

Well as the Jesuits say "Give me a child until he is seven and I will give you the (Catholic) man;" thus it is important to protect our children from the vile Christians and to instruct them as early as possible with various Antichristian rituals such as "Holy Communion (eating Christian flesh and drinking Christian blood)," goat bestiality, drinking goat's blood and the sacred Hula Hula Loop Dance (see www.abovetopsecret.com... ).

Lux

Originally posted by Lucifer777
Well as the Jesuits say "Give me a child until he is seven and I will give you the (Catholic) man;" thus it is important to protect our children from the vile Christians and to instruct them as early as possible with various Antichristian rituals such as "Holy Communion (eating Christian flesh and drinking Christian blood)," goat bestiality, drinking goat's blood and the sacred Hula Hula Loop Dance (see www.abovetopsecret.com... ).

Lux

edit on 28-2-2011 by Lucifer777 because: The text was not diabolical enough.

Confused as to what your post has to do with the secret Disney Lodge? Wrong thread maybe? Or just like to speak out with random thoughts?

The Disneyfication of "folklore" is so ingrained into the modern psyche since childhood that we do not notice it.

Previous generations would have been brought up with the myths and legends of Bible as the central means of teaching children about life, good and evil and so forth, but this has been replaced with what is widely referred to as the Disneyfication ( www.uwec.edu...) of folklore, which has both progressive and negative aspects.

Masonry is a paternalistic Antichristian society and it's methods are subtle and invasive, just as Neopaganism is, however Neopaganism is a relatively new phenomenon which, in my experience, is much less paternalistic and less ingrained with "old fashioned" values, and which seems to attract more females than males. Of course evangelical Antichristianity is important, but this does not mean that all Antichristians are "good," and that they are not flawed and should be shielded from criticism. Disneyfication has been accused of being loaded with Masonic values, racism, antifeminism, the portrayal of the submissive, servile, helpless woman as waiting on her heroic prinice and so forth.

It is my view that Masonry is not radically Antichristian enough and is a rather silly cult of mostly very boring old Capitalists and paternalists who have not really caught up with what Dawkins refers to as the modern "moral Zeitgeist (the spirit of the age);" and is not really a participant in the New Aeon movement. Disneyfication tends to promote tradtional values, the sin of monogamy and the nuclear family; it promotes an inhernently Capitalist, anti-Communist, anti-Socialist ethos (idea), which of course essentially represents Masonic values, where the male is dominant and the woman is little more than a domestic servant, sex slave and a worshipper of the male.

Masonry will probably continue to be a relatively regressive influence on society until the day when they admit lesbians and female dominatrixes into their society; however this is unlikely in the short tem.

Lux

reply to post by Lucifer777

Freemasonry is not anti-Christan. I'm surprised a godless man would make such a claim.

Just because you call them old fashioned doesn't diminish that these values still hold meaning.

Freemasonry is composed of men of different beliefs, backgrounds, and walks of life. To judge them in such a way shows how little you know and how easily you give way to ignorant stereotypes.

Monogamy is a sin? What is wrong with capitalism? You are given more freedom over your finances.

Freemasonry cares not about politics nor secularism.

Clandestine Freemasonry already admits those you named and their numbers are not strengthened for it.

reply to post by Lucifer777


Please stop derailing this thread. None of your three contributions to this thread have anything to do with whether or not there is a Masonic lodge at Disneyland.

reply to post by Lucifer777

Many Masons probably do consider themselves to be followers of Jesus Christ. Quite a few of them are in the York Rite as well because of this faith.

Where has Freemasonry, specifically the Masonic Knights Templar, made a comment that deviates from the story of Jesus Christ, and his resurrection? What higher echelon considers themselves to be priests? If you are referring to the "Holy Royal Arch Knights Templar Priests" you must know they are an honorary side body stemming the York Rite, the higher echelons of the Knights Templar (in America) is the Grand Encampment and in other areas is called "Grand Priories/Commanderies". To be involved with these bodies one does not need to be in the HRAKTP. Here is a description of the HRAKTP from their site:

The Holy Royal Arch Knight Templar Priests is an honorary and invitational organization with membership limitations and cannot be applied for. Members are selected and extended invitations on the basis of outstanding performance as a Commander of a Commandery of Knights Templar. The order has historic roots in England that trace back to 1786, with references back to 1686, the traditional year of revival. The "Priestly Order" was referred to within the ceremonies of "The High Knights Templar" in Ireland in 1755. There are records of the conferral of this Order in the United States during the 1800's but the authority is unknown. The Grand College of America, Holy Royal Arch Knight Templar Priests was formed in the United States in 1931. The limit of Regular Members in a Tabernacle is 33. The number of Tabernacles in a state is dependent on the number of active Commanderies in each state.

They also give a history of the order. We also have a good Brother named Masonic Light who is a member of it. I only know a limited amount not being a member of that order.

Originally posted by fordrew
reply to post by Rockpuck

 

Walt was part of DeMolay.

That he was, but it doesn't mean he became a Freemason .. Bill Clinton was a DeMolay and he didn't become a Freemason, and there are hundreds of thousands of Boy Scouts and, like me, Order of the Arrow who didn't have a draw to become Freemasons (though, most Boy Scouts have no idea about the Masonic influence ... nor do most churches for that matter lol)

There's no evidence to suggest Walt was a Freemason much less a 33rd .. though it is entirely possible that he was a Freemason and didn't advertise it, but I doubt a 33rd. The Scottish Rite likes to parade their famous 33rds as a means to advertise how great they are, even 32nd degree Masons. I think if Walt was a 33rd he would have been publicly advertised as such. But he could have been a Mason! And since the Club 33 was founded for financiers that backed the first Disney Land venture, it's quite possible that a number of 33rd degree Masons were in the original club and named it after a specific address to coincide with the 33rd degree.

This all being said, it wasn't the club 33...

The entrance was actually located in the ride, as a part of it...

In plain sight.

Someone else has to have information on this. Used to be easy to find on Google, but now all you can find is a flood of info on Club 33... almost as if it were intentionally plastered all over to bury it.

Originally posted by Lucifer777

 

 

Lucifer777... they say a fool and his money are soon parted.

That being said, GIVE ME ALL YOUR MONEY!

6 or 7 years ago my girlfriend, who worked at Disney, took me on a tour through the Pirates ride when the park was closed for the night. I saw no door with anything Masonic on it, for whatever that's worth. I've also been through many of the tunnels and other "backstage" areas, and never saw anything of a conspiratorial nature.

I also got to watch the Epcot fireworks show (that's what her job was there, pyrotechnician) from the control room at the top of the "Mexico" pyramid. Very impressive set up they have there.

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Epcot would have been Disney World in Florida. I believe (though I may be wrong), the OP is asking about Disneyland in Anaheim, CA.