Chinese aircraft carrier

everyone......this is old news i saw from tv and webs in china last year.
we brought 3 carriers from russian and both of them have been modified into theme park or museum. that's all
can't help reply to this post

www.sinodefence.com...
but.. wut happened to the third one..and y the hell will he government buy such awsome military ships to make parks... think about it

[edit on 18-7-2004 by Military_dude]

See see 4 Sale

Apparently the Chinese also originally bought the Brazilian carrier Aer�dromo Ligeiro (NAeL) Minas Geraisa -- originally commisssioned in 1942 as HMS Vengeance a British Colossus-class Light Fleet Carrier -- for $1.9m but then fell out with the Brazilian Navy over who should pay for the cost of sailing her to China (estimated at $1m) so she ended up on Yatchworld.com!!

see NAeL Minas Gerais - Brazilian Navy






[edit on 19-7-2004 by Popeye]

Originally posted by Popeye
See see 4 Sale

Apparently the Chinese also originally bought the Brazilian carrier Aer�dromo Ligeiro (NAeL) Minas Geraisa -- originally commisssioned in 1942 as HMS Vengeance a British Colossus-class Light Fleet Carrier -- for $1.9m but then fell out with the Brazilian Navy over who should pay for the cost of sailing her to China (estimated at $1m) so she ended up on Yatchworld.com!!

see NAeL Minas Gerais - Brazilian Navy

- why this just proves they're out to dominate us at every turn!

They've been 'involved' with 3 clapped out old small - medium carriers!!

My God! Can we sleep safely in our beds!? Quick dust off the 'yellow peril' scare propaganda materials!








[edit on 19-7-2004 by sminkeypinkey]

Nah...not yet the Chinese are not a threat to our air force or navy but in 20 years maybe if the US doesn't use or build new systems for our airforce and navy then the china could catch up but as its going now they sure got a long way to go

A little off the subject.......

I don't know if China is building a carrier, but I know they are building subs check this news out:

Chinese produce new type of sub

China's naval buildup has produced a new type of attack submarine that U.S. intelligence did not know was under construction, according to U.S. defense and intelligence officials.
The submarine was spotted several weeks ago for the first time and has been designated by the Pentagon as the first Yuan-class of submarine.

check out the story at this link:

washingtontimes.com...

China is preparing to attack Taiwan, the only question is when?

Of course, the USA will come to Taiwan's aid and then the USA will be at war with China. The FUTURE is FULL of WARS.

on the left side of picture is an aircraft carrier, it's for the military park

by the way, i'm come from china, i have a 2 questions to ask you guys if China and TaiWan have draw the sword. Will you guys support America jion this war to support TaiWan ?
what do you think if china chose to build aircraft carrier?

Originally posted by WestPoint23
Nah...not yet the Chinese are not a threat to our air force or navy but in 20 years maybe if the US doesn't use or build new systems for our airforce and navy then the china could catch up but as its going now they sure got a long way to go

on the ground battlefield it's a totally different story

yippie china has an aircraft carrier, by the time they have a good fleet, the us will have stealth aircraft carrier, those 500 billion dallor aren't for nothing.

How about by the time china has a fleet the US will have submerged carriers popping up like subs opening their flight decks and out come our jets. Ok my imagination is running wild again, sorry

why do you think so highly of the US??? just because they have like infinite billion dollars doesnt mean they have the best of everything........for all i know that Aircraft Carrier could already be a stealth one its not even completed so youd never know

Originally posted by DarkSide

Originally posted by WestPoint23
Nah...not yet the Chinese are not a threat to our air force or navy but in 20 years maybe if the US doesn't use or build new systems for our airforce and navy then the china could catch up but as its going now they sure got a long way to go

on the ground battlefield it's a totally different story

Thank god theres a few thousand miles of ocean between China and the US. You cant march a 200million person army across the Pacfic.

200 million people armed with sticks would be scary let alone with AKs.
Good thing theres only 50 million AKs in the world and thats the most prolific gun in the world.

they can use other weapons too you know like rocket launchers, grenades, tanks, machine guns(besides ak), and missles..............

looks like a kuznetsov class carrier to me, which was originally modified from the kiev class aircraft carrying cruiser.

It certainly is sad to see a beautiful ship like that rusting away, the Soviets knew how to make beautiful and solid military equipment.

Yep looks like we have to put our AWACS on alert in the pacific seas shortly. China is a major sea faring economy primarily doing trade with the US. It may only be next to japan, but if tensions ensue it may be to their benefit to patrol the pacific. They may be watching the Pearl Harbor Naval base right now. We need to put some predators on 24/7 reconnaince.

why do you think so highly of the US???

I think highly of the US we have the best tech out there. and Our DOD budget is around 500Billion we have 5 branches so each branch ahs roughly 100billion a year. Only one of our military branches has more than any other county in the world, that is pretty sad.
Look at the US future carriers.


CVN-77


Ski Jump


Stealth Carrier U.S.

Thank god theres a few thousand miles of ocean between China and the US. You cant march a 200million person army across the Pacfic.

200 million people armed with sticks would be scary let alone with AKs.
Good thing theres only 50 million AKs in the world and thats the most prolific gun in the world.

China is cutting it Army form 2mil down to 1.5 cuz of cost to maintain it. Devil just try to equip 200mil people with weapons you cant cost too much. And china don't have enough weapons for them. Another this is we have air superiority so if china has 200mil men oh well we will just bomb them till they are down to 2 mil before we go in with our ground troops. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

[edit on 12-8-2004 by WestPoint23]

Originally posted by TACHYON
Yep looks like we have to put our AWACS on alert in the pacific seas shortly. China is a major sea faring economy primarily doing trade with the US. It may only be next to japan, but if tensions ensue it may be to their benefit to patrol the pacific. They may be watching the Pearl Harbor Naval base right now. We need to put some predators on 24/7 reconnaince.

Actually I think the Global hawk woul;d be a better choice. More range and more endurance. The Navy seems to be serious about purchasing them.

the CVX certainly does look impressive Westpoint. I can't wait to see one sail in my harbour in the future. I have only been on the USS Constellation, a Kitty Hawk Class Carrier and I was impressed by it's size and all the aircraft it has on it.

I am supposing unlike the KH class, it will be nuclear powered?? If so do you know how many reactors?

How many aircraft do they think it will hold??

thanks,

drfunk

You should see the USS Nimitz then you will be impressed the biggest carrier in the world.
The CVN-77 George H.W. Bush dues to enter service in 2009 will carry about 85 planes like the Nimitz class and im not sure ho many reactors it will have although I know it will be nuclear powered. Here are some new features for the CVN-77.

Features of CVN 77 Concept Design
1 Passive Jet Blast Deflector: Redesigns and new materials mean reduced maintenance costs.
2 Island Designs: Improve flight deck access and reduce signature and electronic self-interference.
3 Signature Reduction: Curved flight deck edges, enclosed antenna farms, smaller islands and internal aircraft elevators add up to maximum stealth.
4 Aircraft Pit Stop: Semi-automated refueling and servicing in a new configuration and deck location provides faster, more efficient airwing pit stops and requires fewer people. 5 Hanger Bay: New designs reduce clutter.

Other features incorporated in this concept include:
Manpower Reductions: Technology, space rearrangement, operational procedure changes, advanced sensor technologies and condition-based maintenance systems all allow for a smaller, specially-trained crew.
Reconfigurable Spaces: Life-of-the-ship modular construction designs provide flexibility and reduce cost.
Expanded Bandwidth: More onboard and offboard capability gives the ship a communications edge.
Zonal Electrical Distribution Systems: Isolate the potential for problems and minimizes the effect on the rest of the ship.
Automation Insertion: Material movement devices, semi-autonomous, gravity compensated weapons handling devices, damage control automation systems and components will reduce the ship's crew and costs.

The Navy released an artists conception of what CVN-77 will look like on December 11, 2002. CVN-77 will be the beginning of a three-ship road to a fully developed 21st century aircraft carrier. CVN-77 will take the initial modifications to the NIMITZ class design even further. The island will contain multi-function electronic arrays for improved command, control, communications and intelligence. These multifunction sensors will also have reduced maintenance and manpower requirements over the current single use systems. Improved self-defense capabilities will be added in the form of the advanced Sea Sparrow missile and electronic warfare improvements. Cruise ship technologies in the form of waste management systems, habitability and shipboard materials will also be utilized. CVN-77 will also potentially utilize a new jet blast deflector (JBD) system. The new JBD will comprise metal panels coated with heat dissipating ceramic tiles, similar to those used on the space shuttle. These tiles can resist higher levels of heat than the current water cooled JBDs and will be far less maintenance intensive. The ship can easily store a large number of tile sheets, as replacements become necessary. The goal with CVN 77 will be to accomplish significant operating cost reductions and manpower savings. The well-proven nuclear propulsion plant of the earlier NIMITZ class ships will be used in this ship.

Here is the link read all about the CVN-77 and future Carriers.