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Originally posted by TechVampyre
You shouldn't need the reward of good things, Just treat everyone the way you want to be treated.. I think it's good if someone smiles..Kindness doe's not ask for collateral..And it gives us respect as people..
Originally posted by Akragon
In other cases such as murder, it might take another life time, possibly several... in which case one of those next lives, you are doomed to recieve the same treatment as you treated your victim.
Originally posted by GenerationXisMarching
Originally posted by TechVampyre
You shouldn't need the reward of good things, Just treat everyone the way you want to be treated.. I think it's good if someone smiles..Kindness doe's not ask for collateral..And it gives us respect as people..
true, but many of those are good for the ego, but karma is here to teach you. that is the only reward that you can recieve on this planet and take to your next life, or use freely when you have ascended. the point is that yes, it should be a habit to be respectful and kind, but you know just as well as i, that it doesnt work that way with children. we are still children, and by making ourselves better we take that knowledge with us. those memories from all of the lives you have had here ( all available in full clarity upon completion of your trials ) is the only reason you are here
when you have beaten these trials you escape this material plane and ascend
we humans are creatures that straddle the line of love/fear. we can go either way, and we will eventually
karma, in my opinion is the name for the small unseen energies manifesting from your concentrated thoughts (prayers) as well
have you met someone who will pray for something, and recieve it, just to have an equal and opposite effect later? karma is the energy of the universe (universe=god?) and to risk sounding nerdy is "the force"
all energy can be transformed into matter, and all matter can be transformed into energy. i wonder everyday why people cant see these connections between everything in their life. every single life is so delicately intertwined that there is no way i can ever go back to believing in coincidences
Originally posted by RRokkyy
Originally posted by Akragon
In other cases such as murder, it might take another life time, possibly several... in which case one of those next lives, you are doomed to recieve the same treatment as you treated your victim.
So you are saying God is going to use someone to murder
you to punish you for what you did in your previous life. Then
is that person responsible for murdering you since God
set it up? Or is he free of Karma? How does being murdered
actually teach you anything? How would you know why you are
being murdered? Is Karma about teaching or punishment?
If your mother gets cancer is that punishment or teaching?
If you kill a Sacred Cow will you be punished?
Are poor people,or sick people being punished for their karma?edit on 18-2-2011 by RRokkyy because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TechVampyre
Originally posted by GenerationXisMarching
Originally posted by TechVampyre
You shouldn't need the reward of good things, Just treat everyone the way you want to be treated.. I think it's good if someone smiles..Kindness doe's not ask for collateral..And it gives us respect as people..
While I respect that..I am not a very spiritual person these days. But I can make peace with myself, as long as I make one person smile..Or if I make a effort To help someone out if my assistance is needed. People have many different ways of thinking, And coping.. And at the end of the night the idea is the same..As long as the message is not misunderstood.
finally a good reply, ty sir. i am only spiritual because ive seen so much of it. my path isnt your, i respect your posts and am pleased to have lived beside you
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by RRokkyy
Originally posted by Akragon
In other cases such as murder, it might take another life time, possibly several... in which case one of those next lives, you are doomed to recieve the same treatment as you treated your victim.
So you are saying God is going to use someone to murder
you to punish you for what you did in your previous life. Then
is that person responsible for murdering you since God
set it up? Or is he free of Karma? How does being murdered
actually teach you anything? How would you know why you are
being murdered? Is Karma about teaching or punishment?
If your mother gets cancer is that punishment or teaching?
If you kill a Sacred Cow will you be punished?
Are poor people,or sick people being punished for their karma?edit on 18-2-2011 by RRokkyy because: (no reason given)
This person would be born into a situation where at some point in his lifetime he would be killed in the same manner in which he did the killing in his past incarnation.
How would you know? Well once you returned to God which we all do, you could then look back on what you did, and understand how it felt....lesson learned.
God doesn't need to use people for murder, its something thats always existed and always will until we all realize we are all a part of each other.
In a world where love reigns, murder and hatred have no place. Unfortunatly such a world doesn't exist...yet
Karma is the HIndu version of Sin. Thats all.
Your pseudo answers are inadequate.
You havent a clue about it. Nobody does.
Do you realize that prior to modern medicine,even a few hundred years ago, 50 or more percent of all children died from diseases? So its your opinion that they all were being punished for their karma? Thats hard to believe.
I am a Non Dualist, that has studied Yoga with an Adept Enlightened Guru and I find most of this Karma to be Unbelievable
And having to be murdered to learn not to murder sounds more
like punishment. If God is everyone then why would God
punish himself? And why couldnt you just learn your lesson
from God without the punishment? And what is learning anyway.
That kind of learning has nothing to with Spirituality.
Even Jesus said spirituality is not a function of works
So you are saying God is going to use someone to murder
you to punish you for what you did in your previous life. Then
is that person responsible for murdering you since God
set it up? Or is he free of Karma? How does being murdered
actually teach you anything?
If we did not really have the awareness to think about our death, then we would not feel relieved when a voice of authority dictates to us the idea that there is reincarnation.
I've heard that before we're incarnated we litterally design our own life as to what events will take place in said life, what experiences we'll have and so on... We write our life chart before we are born...