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Originally posted by lasertaglover
reply to post by LDragonFire
As long as I have lived here in the Upper Midwest, which has been about 20 years, Indian Summers have always been in November, or December at the latest. I didnt know it came later in the winter season, or is that particular to your part of the country? Just curious.
The expression 'Indian summer' has been used for more than three centuries. The earliest known use was by French-American writer St. John de Crevecoeur in rural New York in 1778. There are several theories as to its etymology:
* In Colonial New England and New York, Indian Summer referred only to a January Thaw, when American Indians Raiding parties could be expected in the western and northern areas: the ground had briefly lost its snow cover so tracking the Native American raiders back to their winter camps was much more difficult for the Colonials.
* In The Americans: The Colonial Experience, Daniel J. Boorstin speculates that the term originated from raids on European colonies by Indian war parties; these raids usually ended in late autumn (due to snow covered ground), hence summer-like weather in the late fall and mid winter was an Indian Summer, a time raiding parties could be expected.
* Two other known uses of the term in the 18th century are from accounts kept by two army officers leading retaliation expeditions against Indians for winter raiding parties on settlers in Ohio and Indiana in 1790, and Pennsylvania in 1794.[2] * It may be so named because this was the traditional period during which early American Indians harvested their crops of squash and corn.
Originally posted by ISis12RA12ELohim
reply to post by IAMIAM
Indeed me to!, I was born in November but am not at all a winter baby.
Originally posted by ISis12RA12ELohim
reply to post by IAMIAM
I am Sagittarius - Nov 24th
Originally posted by LDragonFire
Around here it's called Indian Summer, so enjoy it while it lasts.....
We often get a week or two of mild warm weather in Jan or Feb....
Originally posted by ISis12RA12ELohim
I don't remember but that's me, I seem to be forgetting things as of late, I don't remember having any weather near the 80's but perhaps. I remember when I was younger, in my teen years, walking to school in NYC in February, it was like trying to trek through the arctic.Of course there are colder places but what I am saying is, the weather just doesn't seem right, I have been a citizen of this planet for 29 years and something just feels off about it.