Earthquake Swarm in Arkansas Intensifies. Memphis, Tennessee could be epicenter for the next big one

Sure you all can come but we have to get a bigger ride. LOL!!!!!

reply to post by space cadet


It is not a supervolcano. Campi Flegri was a VEI 7 and that is not a supervolcano. The last eruption was 500km^3 of ejecta and a supervolcano is 1000+

The quakes around the Med by the way are quite normal.

reply to post by Robin Marks


Talking about remote triggering, show me the pattern in this?



That is every Japan (4+) and Arkansas (1+) quake since the first 7.2 that set it going. I can't see any pattern there. That chart is very long but is accurate to the minute and represents the times exactly. There is one 'slot' for each of the 1440 minutes in the day over every day since the 9th March UTC times.

OK it looks as if ATS does not understand an image 9000 pixels wide so think of that one as a thumbnail! I will put it somewhere else and provide a link.

You can download it here

reply to post by PuterMan


nice graph me likes
you should make one that shows only the quakes that start in Japan and have ones in Ar that are within 15 min of that one, I wonder how may fall within that time frame,
I myself dont believe its remote trigering in the aspect i belive you are.
Im more in line with it being harmonicy triggered, like a big bowl of jello

graph all 5.5 quakes in relation to a 15 min window with Ar then I think you could eliminate remote triggering to a degree.

I watch closly a lot of days and notice a trend to activity picking up around the p waves comming in just my thoughts and observations

Great job Mr Putterman. I may not spell well. but i do think a lot, And you my dear sir make me think a lot cudos

reply to post by PuterMan


I could stare at your (goats) graphs all day. I love you because you challenge me. Normally, I'd debat you at length, but I can't.

Besides, your graph isn't exaclty correct because it doesn't include all the data. There are dozens and dozens of smaller quakes that aren't listed and therefore not represent on the graph.

And the remote trigger doesn't come in one form. There is expansion and contraction. Meaning there is an inversely proportional relationship. And there is a time delay factor, a lag. For example. There is scientfic consensus that earthquakes can cause mud volcanoes. But sometimes it take a while to show up because the system needs time to charge. Time to pressurized. Kinda like the nuclear meltdown we are witnessing. It's not a one off event. It's a series and a process. Even destruction has a process. Disorder has a order. yin yang. you and i are opposite sides of the same coin.

Oops, runnin my mouth... I said I'd get all excited and let loose when I see an earthquake in the middle of the Amazon. I also must include Omsk in the mix. And maybe add in Fort McMurray.

Otherwise, I got to let his big fella run out and rely my drag. I only got low-test line on my reel at the moment, set it too tight and it'll snap.

Before anyone mentions it, Bolivia is not the middle of the Amazon. Although inland somewhat, it's in the Andes and part of the ring of fire.

Watching local (Memphis) news now...

Rep. Steve Cohen discussing Earthquake preparedness grant for this area to reinforce buildings, but more importantly the hospitals and airports. He also discussed the devastation to this area WHEN, not IF, the New Madrid fault does its thing

reply to post by Robin Marks

Besides, your graph isn't exaclty correct because it doesn't include all the data. There are dozens and dozens of smaller quakes that aren't listed and therefore not represent on the graph.

Nevertheless you should see some sort of pattern. It also does not include all the Japanese data but that does not matter either as that will not reach Arkansas. Anything under a 1 is not worth bothering with and probably should not be in the equation anyway.

Yes I agree that there has been some work on triggering, and Alaska is believed to trigger Yellowstone. All I am saying is I see no pattern and if the quakes are being triggered there should be a pattern or some sorts - maybe not regular but it should be there. If it is not resulting directly, i.e. takes 'time to pressurise' etc, then there is not way you can definitively say that it was triggered by a remote earthquake.

Then you have to remember that you stated that these were being triggered by the Japanese quakes "as you were looking at them" (or words to that effect), in other words you were seeing cause and effect, you assumed, in GEE. That is not random time to build up or a time delay, or the system charging. I was looking (for 4 hours by the way) for anything that could remotely be said to be cause and effect - a 6.0 there a quake in Arkansas as the 6.0 rolled through. I can't see that pattern. All I see is randomness. I like randomness!

You cannot equate mud volcanoes to Arkansas quakes by the way imho.

reply to post by PuterMan


We'll have to agree to disagree about the little quakes. I think they are as important as the 9.0 pointers. You don't.

Remote triggers come in all sorts of shapes and sizes. Even our oldest remote trigger, the fuse, can be cut to length to determine timely. Remote triggering doesn't have to be immediate.

The Japanese earthquake trigger a tsnumai. In one remote bay, there was a delay between event and effect.
A reporter found his way to a distant cut off village.
www.pbs.org...

Forgetting I am trying to link Arkansas to remote triggering, my agrument is triggering is not always instant. The 2004 caused a mud volcano to erupt immediately but this isn't always the case. It can take time. In this study they limit their parameters, but they also say this,
"While reports of corrleations between large earthquakes and mud volcano eruptions are widespread, little is none of the robustness of the correlation, the exact triggering mechanisms, magnitude thresholds and triggering distances, and whether delayed triggering is possible. The purpose of this study..."

quakeinfo.ucsd.edu...

So, simply, there is very little know for sure when it comes to triggering.

The moon triggers earthquakes.
www.sciencedaily.com...
And tides, all the time. Supposed to make fishing better as well.

The Alaskan earthquake caused Yellowstone to be remotely triggered.

www.earth-issues.com...

In this case, not only did an earthquake produce hundreds of tiny quakes, it change geyser patterns.
The trigger caused some geysers to stop. And others to change intervals. The triggering event caused delays late on.
www.sciencedaily.com...

www.seis.utah.edu...

Again, geologists admit they know little of the real dynamics behing remote triggering. And they were paying particular attention to the tiny quakes.

Here, Bob Smith, almost sounds like Jim Berkland, that's why I like Bob Smith.

"The apparent triggering of the Yellowstone tremors by the Alaska quake "confirms what we are beginning to see worldwide - that earthquakes can be triggered by other earthquakes at great distances, more so than we had thought before," said Robert. B. Smith, a University of Utah professor of geology and geophysics and coordinating scientist for the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory."

I'm glad you like randomness. Because, remote trigger can cause randomness.

And you're right, I can't make a 100% definative link. Neither can the geologists. In the case of Arkansas. The effect was like that bowl of jello. And the effects seemed almost random.

The real reason I am link mud volcanoes to Arkansas is because in 1811/12, there were sand geysers. Which are mud volcanoes by another name. Mud volcanoes are also associated with natural gas deposits. Arkansas hits the mark there again. Indonesia mud volcano caused by drilling. A direct trigger. The real reason I link Arkansas and Yellowstone is the aquifer. The water is the link. The waves from Japan cause minute changes which lead to different patterns in the swarm of earthquakes. There's another link. Apparently, both Arkansas and Yellowstone are plaqued by swarms of small earthquakes. Of course I'm leaving out the 4.7. And the volcano part of Yellowstone.


You said, " All I am saying is I see no pattern and if the quakes are being triggered there should be a pattern or some sorts - maybe not regular but it should be there."

It is there, and just like the geyser changes in Yellowstone, the pattern is irregular and seemingly random.

Had to edit, thought I was finished, but there's also more triggers. You seem to trigger me, and I resonate from the challenge. And my reactions are sometimes random, and sometimes delayed. In this case, the response was immediate, and there must be a correlation.

I haven't been home all day and checked the earthquakes in Greenbrier a little while ago. As always, I find them on Google Earth and stickpin them. I see that they are now moving even further south and very near me .. the one at 15:02UTC was just .2 miles from me. yikes!

Hadenough - there was one close to you too - at intersection of Burkett Flat Rd & Mountain Dr.

reply to post by KathyG427


You are right, there was a couple very southward. You may have missed Puterman's map showing the migration of the quakes to the southwest. I looked at it before check how far south they are going and I just realized how big this thread really is. I already forget what page it was on. 182 or something like that.

Don't forget about the bibliography. It will make for easier referencing to check on information.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Sorry, Kathy, I'm going to go after Puterman so you don't have to read this.


Oh Puterman, oh Puterman. I am so glad I went and read Quake Watch before bed. You were doing a terrible job of comforting Anmarie. But besides that, I noticed that you listed a quake in Trindad.


Trinidad has one of the few places in the world with mud volcanoes. You'll notice it an article about one in 2008, that "Officials from the Petroleum Company of Trinidad and Tobago Limited (Petrotrin) and the country's fire service are expected to conduct an air quality inspections..."

www.cdera.org...

So we also know that Trindad has mud volcanoes and lots of oil and gas. And I could point out a few large quakes that occured in October before the eruption. Of course it's not proof. It's just more common link in a chain.

reply to post by KathyG427


can you tell me when that was? My husband was home sick today and was all excited because he said he finally felt and heard an earthquake that he never saw posted on the USGS site. After that, I explained to him that he is possible sick BECAUSE of all of the little earthquakes around there today. He's got bad nausea and a terrible headache. He sounded like a child who's favorite pet died every time I spoke with him. I told him the best thing he can do is to leave. Go to work tomorrow where he won't feel the waves so much. Our yard is turning into a pond, so the super water-logged yard and living in a mobile home combined makes for a super sensitve scenario.

reply to post by HadEnough


The one at Mtn drive is this earthquake:
Magnitude 2.2
Date-Time

* Wednesday, March 16, 2011 at 10:12:43 UTC
* Wednesday, March 16, 2011 at 05:12:43 AM at epicenter
* Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 35.238°N, 92.403°W
Depth 5.7 km (3.5 miles)
==================================

This one was pretty close as well.
Magnitude 2.5
Date-Time

* Wednesday, March 16, 2011 at 17:50:25 UTC
* Wednesday, March 16, 2011 at 12:50:25 PM at epicenter
* Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 35.214°N, 92.370°W

reply to post by KathyG427


thanks. I think he mentioned feeling one around the time of the 12:50 (our time) one. 2 more days and I should be able to go home and feel them again for myself. I almost miss them, haha. Keep up the good reporting! :

Live animals aren't the only ones that can warn of an earthquake?

Here's a thread from Harry Tuttle about way too many baby dolphins dying. And he has begun a hypothesis about dolphin deaths at the South end of the New Madrid Fault.

I know there are some alternate theories of faults around the Gulf of Mexico so it might not be 500 miles away from a fault line. And then there are new lines being formed. Anyway I think there's a connection. And I'm wondering if the dolphins, birds, and fish are falling and dying because of Methane coming from subduction trenches, troughs and fault fissures.

UtahRoseBud, I don't know if there are any mud volcanoes in the area but there might be. And Robin, I wonder how the saturated soils would play into this?

43 dolphins found dead on Gulf Coast - Is this the sign of the coming New Madrid Earth Quake?
www.abovetopsecret.com...&addstar=1&on=10818713#pid10818713

Also, if you get a moment, please read the "situation reports". BTW, weird, maybe a glitch or maybe a cover-up or neither, but the latest update is for the March 16th. Funny how one cannot find any mention of this event on the main page. The only way that it can be viewed is by clicking on Harry Tuttle's link (provided in his thread).

Has anyone mapped out the animal deaths in and around the New Madrid/Guy/Etc. faults? It's possible that the animals could help us figure out uhm stuff, earthquake stuff.

Toni

reply to post by Robin Marks


Did you actually read through that paper about triggering of mud volcanoes? It has more if, buts and partial data in than the holes in a colander.

Of particular significance however is this comment under figure 4.

Note that seismic shaking of approximately Mercalli intensity ~6 represents an approximate lower limit for triggering

There is absolutely no way that the earthquakes in Japan produces Mercalli 6 shaking in Arkansas otherwise Susan et al would not still be with us.

If you then look at table two you will not that none of the intensities of any of the earthquakes studied was less than 3.8 at the location of the mud volcano. Note also that the maximum distance from the eruption rupture to the mud volcano is 493km. Arkansas is approximately 9000km from the Japan earthquakes.

I. Instrumental Not felt by many people unless in favourable conditions.
II. Weak Felt only by a few people at best, especially on the upper floors of buildings. Delicately suspended objects may swing.
III. Slight Felt quite noticeably by people indoors, especially on the upper floors of buildings. Many do not recognize it as an earthquake. Standing motor cars may rock slightly. Vibration similar to the passing of a truck. Duration estimated.
IV. Moderate Felt indoors by many people, outdoors by few people during the day. At night, some awakened. Dishes, windows, doors disturbed; walls make cracking sound. Sensation like heavy truck striking building. Standing motor cars rock noticeably. Dishes and windows rattle alarmingly.

Source

The study concludes:

In this study we have shown quantitatively that nearby earthquakes can trigger mud volcano eruptions.

Further they state:

Although none of these earthquake/volcano triggering pairs are separated by distances that can be definitively labeled as the ‘‘far field,’’we suggest that dynamic stress changes induced by the passage of the seismic waves might play a role in these triggering processes, because at these distances static stress changes are likely an order of magnitude smaller than the dynamic changes.

So basically they are dubious about the effects at distances that are by no means distant!

Thanks Robin, I guess that document pretty much concludes the case that Japan cannot trigger quakes in Arkansas.

This however is not the case with Alaska and Yellowstone, but then they are much closer and at least on the same plate. I am not saying that quakes cannot remote trigger other quakes as they can, but not at the distances involved here.

All I can add into this is something has changed. I was hearing rumbling and feeling a little shake at times or jolt on quakes I should not have been feeling at all and then I would see the earthquake add-on for mozilla pop up saying there was another quake and the majority have been in Japan as we all know. Sometimes the plumb bob has shown that there is movement even on the small quakes which I try to document for you and post. I don't have time to do many and I am leaving town for a few days but I will be keeping up while I'm away with what is going on. My ears are still ringing, nausea was bad yesterday and it eased some last night. My cell phone disconnected with several people yesterday while talking. We are not feeling the quakes like we were here, we do still feel some of them, but I don't feel like I'm sitting on a row boat with someone rocking the boat in an ocean, that has eased down here. I don't know what changed but it has for what is being felt right now in Vilonia. I hope it stays this way at least you can function and live with this. I'm watching the skies, the ground, animals and anything that might give a clue or hint of what is going on. I still appreciate each and every one of you and what you do and how you do it. I wish I knew more and could be of more help in solving it all.

We just had windows rattling with this small quake and I can't even see it on GEE, about 10:20ish

reply to post by SusanFrey


My thoughts are still with you Susan!

Quick question, did the change happen after the quake in Japan? I think you are right, something has changed. But figuring out how that is might be impossible.

Hope your trip out of town goes well!

OiO

reply to post by SusanFrey

Cell phone reception spotty in areas which were previously good. Many wi-fi glitches lasting up to a minute.

Animals very quiet and staying near me. The older hens refuse to come out of the coop into 70 degree sunny weather. The roosters stay close by. One rooster led the young hen into the house yesterday. Gorgeous windy weather and no one wants to go out.

Things have changed since the big Japan quake but maybe I am oversensitive. And I am learning many people don't like a Chicken Little.

Coast-to-Coast radio had a researcher who talked about the New Mad and Wabash quakes that are coming.