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Can we achieve independence and freedom without violence?

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posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 08:06 PM
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And instead somehow drain the money from the elite's own system?
This is a possibility proposed by a recently awoken man, a newbie thinker...

An Approach to Freedom and Independence in a Nonviolent Manner



- It is no doubt that majority of the human race is inevitably subject to the devaluation to commodities when one percent of the population hold forty percent of the world’s largest wealth – and counting. In other words, slave trade is the end product, but not so obviously. This helpless collection of souls may possibly never see any form of physical, conscious, or technological evolution should they remain dependent on a higher form of mankind in a social hierarchy. In order for one to free himself from the confines of this scheme, the creation process of it must be pinpointed.
- In italics, I will theoretically attempt to explain how a basic hierarchical socioeconomic structure evolves. You may skip ahead to the ‘revolution’ aspect. It is simply me thinking to myself and writing it down.

- In the current system, the layers are determined by class, or the amount of money one can generate for the next level. How, then, does the system spawn? Begin with two equal beings, man A and man B – same height, strength, intelligence, everything – except by chance, man A wakes up early one day and decides to venture off. On this adventure he discovers a hidden abundance of delicious fruit that absolutely stimulates his senses, but at a price – it was troublesome to attain it. Naturally, he would take as many as possible to avoid the future efforts. Upon return, man B envies man A for his findings. Man A offers man B a piece if B sacrifices some effort, such as create a bag for extra storage. Every day onward, A returns with fruit for B should B stay satisfied with performing tasks for A. A has an advantage, for he is aware of the fruit’s whereabouts. Suppose he learns this plant’s reproduction and makes a method for ease of gathering without B’s knowledge. He now has an abundance of fruit at little risk, whilst B’s behavior goes unchanged. Here, A is in luxury, and B is in labor. Thus, two social classes have been born. Should B choose to stop his labor, A will do one of two things: cease the supply of fruit or continue supplying but in some other form of trade. Perhaps a certain type of rock can symbolize the debt (1 rock = 1 fruit). If A continues to supply B with fruit without labor or other items of value, B can give A this rock in return to remind A that he owes that much value or labor. Over time, as A continues to supply B, he stockpiles on these debts. Now he has the option of purchasing labor from B while B gains nothing, saying ‘this is what you owe me’ with no questions asked.

- Suppose B refuses to pay back value or labor. Seemingly, A has the right to take back the value he supplied for B. However, it is impossible for him to recall the amount of delicious fruit that B has already digested or wasted. Perhaps, then, A will use force upon B, leaving B in a state of mind to return this physical force, possibly more. But wait, isn’t B already in the hole? It doesn’t seem morally fair for B to revolt. He may rebut by making it known that A ‘lied’ or ‘hid the truth’ for profit and self-interest. However, he (B) allowed himself to be tricked and made no intentions of seeking knowledge for himself. He wasn’t forced to do labor – he agreed, setting himself up for his own downfall. By this, a violent revolution proves to be illogical and completely immoral.

- Return to when A cultivated his own fruits and B began paying in valuable rocks. Suppose another man – C – stumbles upon the garden and wants fruit, but A disallows it. Another deal will be made; since C now has knowledge, A will pay C in rocks to protect his garden when A is away, and after each ‘paycheck,’ C purchases fruit. Now, C and A are on a protection relationship, in which C backs up A at all costs, for he will be paid. Should B revolt, regardless of immorality and illogic, he will stand little chance against A and C, unless B convinces C to turn against A. However, the original surplus lies with A, making this bribe extremely difficult. Suppose A and C journeyed to find rocks and expand to expand their human labor, security, and fruit stockpile. In the process, more fruits and foods would likely be cultivated, and additional people would be added to the system to increase A’s funds. All in all, they work for him – he supplies for them.

- Eventually, A will run out of food to sell. When scarcity increases, people are willing to pay more for that item, thus contributing to the rapid loss of their debts. At this point, they will work more in effort to make the same amount for satisfaction – as these are ‘hard times.’ Supply is running low, and money is running low, except for A – who supplies both the food and money. The B crowd, as explained earlier, may feel the need to revolt, especially with their numbers, but it has been determined that he who owns the money owns the debts. Crowd B owes A labor, so it is immoral for them to revolt. Chances are that A previously used B to make a type of armory for himself. With all money, food, and weapons, what is crowd B to do? The security and arsenal owned by A and C will surely blow them out of the water. This is where knowledge of the land comes in to play.

- Had B originally questioned and sought the knowledge of A by resisting the ease of simple labor and dependence, he wouldn’t be in this predicament. He would have instead been able to find and produce his own fruits to support himself. B is now at a point where, if he produces his own fruits, A will probably take them out of greed or debt. B must be subtle. He must use his own knowledge and means, while doing labor to pay back his debts – and there a lot.

- 'A' can symbolize any goods supplier, 'B' can symbolize the working consumer class, and C can symbolize politicians and police force, while the rocks are money, and the fruits are any produced goods. Then, there may be a group D, where the people scavenge the scraps of A, B, and C. There are major distinctions between these classes of people.


- This is the point we are at today.

- There are steps that can be taken for B to even out the class structure without the use of violence. It is collective independence; relying on A is no longer an option. B must begin to govern itself without A’s knowledge, and in just the same way that A generated income; however, it must be a collective effort by B to share all knowledge with each other. This would prove to be very difficult, for A has large eyes and ears. Eventually B will have generated enough power to cope with A and even possibly bring A’s level down.

- In our society, we see that A has taken ownership of nearly every asset of our lives. These include communications, food, infrastructure, weaponry, energy, and the monetary system – keeping in mind that flow of money is the blood in its veins. There are steps we can take to improve our independence and possibly dismantle this class warfare without the use of violence. It begins with knowledge and stems with the basics of life and nature, originating from independence in our own residence and communities. Considering these six categories, I will offer steps toward gaining independence and generating prosperity.

1) COMMUNICATIONS
After the World Trade Center attacks on September 11th, 2001, George W. Push passed the Patriot Act, granting the government authority to tap into all citizens’ telecommunications and listen to and record conversations – cellular and LAN. Most of the radio is corporate controlled, and television is a lost cause. Currently, the free internet is under attack by constant monitoring and a potential kill switch. Your emails and chats may be seen by officials.
In these spectrums, we shall not speak of revolution or independence – only typical discussion. The revolution realms must be created by the people. First and foremost, we create our own local internets. It will be sponsored by the generosity of tech savvy men and women and the mainframes hosted by trustworthy people. It will not be World Wide Web access. Instead, it will be local and private. This is where only people-classified information shall be discussed. Secondly, we switch from cell phones to walkie-talkies as they are a one-time purchase and contract-free. They are not monitored by a higher entity, but they still run the risk of being intercepted. Likewise, radios will come in handy. With these devices, simply tune to common frequencies and let the revolution communication flow. Keep it as short and imple as possible, however. Synchronization of code words, names, and locations will be critical. Finally, utilize the mailman. I don’t think typical sent letters are being opened up and read yet. Aside, cancelling phone subscriptions may be a helpful blow to the upward flow, but it may also generate extra suspicion. Perhaps lowering one’s plan or switching will be enough.

2) FOOD
Everyone understands that food and water are necessities to life. There is practically no store where you can buy food that is locally owned and not produced by Mansato. As a result of centralization of food supply, costs will always be determined by the supplier, not the consumer. Additionally, ingredients have high potential to be kept secret from the consumers, which gives rise to the chance that they are drugged or poisoned en masse, but gradually in small doses to ensure the people don’t notice the effects. To avoid this, one should grow his own crops and hunt his own game for food, as well as find his own source of water, such as a well. Many crop seeds are available; it is important to avoid any foods from Mansato. As inflation is underway (potentially hyperinflation), purchase and store as many as possible. Those that produce more seeds will typically provide an unlimited supply of crops, as long as sun, water, and soil stay available. Use these to grow crops in the basement, closet, garden or anywhere else in and around the house. Keep them as protected as possible from any animals or other humans. Make conservation a priority to avoid relying on food stamps or other payments in the future. Hunt responsibly. Locally, set traps for small animals on occasion; mass killings will attract attention. Hunt for bigger game far away from town. Again, make conservation priority with a large refrigerator and freezer. Study survival – Man vs Wild and Survivorman are good informational survival TV shows. Rain is a good supplier of free water. Collect this in barrels by using gutters, the boil/filter it for purity. We can stop relying on the piping systems and use this for drinking and plant water.

3) ENERGY
The biggest suppliers of energy are the richest people in the world. Making ourselves energy independent will free us from the grasps of control. This attempt is not to preach about the environment. As Cap and Trade approaches, we are facing skyrocketing energy prices, but only if we stay connected to the companies. Understanding energy is key. Different forms include chemical, mechanical, electrical, thermal, and radiant. By Law of Conservation – energy nor mass can be created nor destroyed, only converted. Also, E=MC^2 states that all matter is a condensation of energy. Therefore, we can convert anything for energy – we just need to understand the procedure of conversion. Firstly, our most obvious source of energy is the sun. Solar panels are available all over the market. Otherwise, one can purchase the parts separately to make his own. Wind turbines are also very common. The same premise for solar panels exists for wind turbines. These devices can be placed all over the outside of the home; optimal locations should be investigated by the owner. Water turbines will also be helpful. These are more difficult but can be placed within the piping, under faucets, or in gutter systems. Make an attempt to hook these systems up to a centralized battery, maybe one per mode of conversion, again keeping in mind that conservation is key. Store multiple batteries. These are some of the most common energy conversions, but again, as everything is energy, there are many more. Consider a Tesla Coil in the home to make wireless electricity possible.

4) INFRASTRUCTURE
This category may prove to be the most difficult to escape, as not much can be done about roads, transit systems, and public venues, especially during the rising police state. More harmless items and actions will be declared unlawful; therefore, secrecy with these will be important. As long as authorities don’t enter and inspect our homes, underground tunnels and trap doors may be a necessity. Energy-efficient travel will be important as well. Bicycles and alternative-energy vehicles should become more prevalent. Electric cars will be helpful but only if the owner produces it and runs it on the newly generated energy. Hydrogen fuel cell research may lead to new vehicles as well. Oil prices are beginning to rise. Keep in mind that the typical household’s electricity is generated by burning coal and fossil fuels at the source. By the way, don’t be surprised to see UFO’s in WWIII. It might be a good idea to make your vehicles off-road capable.

5) WEAPONRY
Obama’s gun-grabbing is in motion. I am not a gun-enthusiast, but the Constitution and 2nd Amendment still exist. As long as police and military have the right to own and use them, so can civilians. Familiarize yourself with hand-to-hand combat, including dagger, sword, trap use, etc., as well as bow-and-arrow, crossbow, etc. Whether or not attaining a license is necessary, I am unsure, but I’m convinced that they will make attempts to confiscate from licensed users first, as they are registered in the system. Remember that the Rothschild dynasty has financed all sides of many wars in history; producing and purchasing weaponry on the black market will help only the locals.

6) MONETARY
The black market will be vital to the people’s survival, independence, and prosperity. If local economies backed by basic commodities or trade can thrive without the watch by any type of governance. Together, utilizing these six categories efficiently, the people may gradually decay the mainstream monetary system - thus, the current governing system – becoming independent bound. It is best to avoid a paper money system within these communities, as corruption and counterfeit is inevitable. Precious metals should be the limit standard, otherwise, full trade is best.
These six categories outline strategies to bolster the people’s monetary and survivability defenses. Of course, in any war, an offensive must be acknowledged as well.
Many believe that protests will help. However, the government is not listening whatsoever. These are the people proven over and over to be wasting time and effort in making a statement. They can be utilized, however, in a way to not make their efforts die in vain. This is the distraction tactic. While the media and authorities spend their attention on pointless protestors, others help bolster the defenses and plan the offensive.
A typical front-line uprising would likely be unsuccessful without weighing other options first. As we know, much of the country’s structure has been ‘infiltrated’ and taken control of by foreign interests. We must play this game of espionage as well. While protestors distract, others begin joining the public sector. This is extremely important, as we need clever, composed, and incorruptible men to join the security and police force. When significant numbers are reached, a date shall be synchronized in which protestors rage and our newly joined force let them slip through guarded areas.

- In short-term, the front-line may be as far as the people can take over, but this and a nicely bolstered defensive system at home may be able to cause some serious damage in the system. Otherwise, taking any basic government depends on its people and its enforcement, and if those two levels break, we can hope for a total collapse.

- In this essay, the word revolution has been used numerous times. However, it shall not be seen as a revolution. Why return to the same system that has been corrupted if it has the likelihood of being corrupted all over again? We must move one step forward – beyond the ideologies that founded this nation – and it lies within every human being. It is personal liberty, independence, and responsibility – do unto others. Avoid the serpent that preys on wants; supply your needs only to yourself and family, while constantly expanding your conscious awareness to govern yourself. Our needs are simply this: health, love, and liberty. It can reign throughout, allowing every man, woman, and child peace and happiness. With this philosophy, no man is greater than another in authority. This is what it means for our country to be under God. I don’t know what God is, but I know He does not oppress and suppress me; He gives me the infinite – no limitations – and that is why I believe God’s kingdom to be based on Anarchy. Any other ruling government by default is corruptible and limiting to man, the most capable specie on Earth. We were founded to be run and protected by the people. The government is proving to us that it is only the people that can embrace the responsibility and bravery to uphold the founding philosophy of peace, liberty and prosperity.

- Now is our chance. When we succeed, our only governing system shall be natural law of the Earth and universe and the collective teamwork of mankind.
Stay informed. Question everything. Godspeed to all.

I welcome your criticism.



posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 10:11 PM
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Hi all,

I think that you are starting to think.

I would like to throw in a few things to help your thought process.

Discover your "Strawman" :

Look it up, watch the videos on youtube, learn it. Don't be afraid of it.
It is a declaration of Independence to take back your Strawman. Yes
you will go on a list but hey you are already on that list with the first
letter you typed on this site. Obay the law of the Constitution for those outside the U.S. the Magna Carta or such document showing true Human
Rights ie, do what you want without harming a fellow being or their property.
It is better if you just don't even speed although they cant touch you anyway.
The Government has told police to view you as a terrorist simply because
two Sovereigns killed an officer so be polite,keep your hands visible and
no sudden moves. Be strong and don't give in. There are a lot of people and
agencies that downplay,contradict, or bad mouth this process. This is because
it is the most powerful action you can take against the government. Learn all you
can. Research and download the free ebooks by Mary Elizabeth Croft.I have been
Sovereign 11 years.

Free Energy without the cost:

While you are on youtube look up perpetual motion machines. Find the ones using
electromagnetism. ie; transistors connected to transformers to create movement
of a wheel with magnetism. Couple that with a converted alternator to magnatism
using Teslas original plan you will find the plans mixed in with the perpetual
motion videos. Free Unlimited Electricity at below $100. I've been generating my
own electricity for a little over 7 months now.

No Work you're already rich:

While you are watching videos on your strawman you will find videos about your
Birth bond and how to take it back. You are worth Millions if not billions and its
yours you cant use it as cash or a bank account, but you can pay to the order of
Your bond. You may think because your car or house is payed for its yours, well
think again. I haven't paid for a thing in 11 years and not once used tax payer
money. I OWN my House,Car,Land,etc. You will understand after watching the
videos. As for spendable cash send me a U2U and I will show you how.

Now you are FREE,RICH, and OFF THE GRID.

The rest of your ideas look good.

Agarta



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 12:22 PM
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Thanks for that. I've somewhat had that mindset of 'strawman' but didn't know that term. I've also done a lot of research on free energy and am starting to make my own ways of getting these. Sounds like you're well off; spread the ideas.



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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You know, for a site that people complain about the Government and its actions as well as the NWO, you would think that more would be interested in DOING SOMETHING. Apparently the people here are just talking and hashing out that which can not change without action with no intention of making a difference or attempting to find out what the next move is, otherwise this thread would be full, maybe their semianonymous posting is all they have the guts to do,because they still have fear. Case in point: the conversations on the Jerusalem UFO case, all that is talked about is whether or not it is a real ufo. When the point should be did it happen or made to create conflict or unity? beings the location used or visited is the most Religiously volatile area in the world. So go forward my friend and lets make a difference while they sit and talk about it.



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 11:53 PM
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edit on 18-2-2011 by Goal Shack because:
Just trying to use this last frequency wisely.
Apologize for unwarranted anger

edit on 18-2-2011 by Goal Shack because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 12:05 AM
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You have to be able to defend your freedom with something.

As for being dependent upon others for your daily requirements is slavery,

Do you provide your own food source?

Does your heat and cooking and lights come from a Wire?

Do you need phone and internet to survive?

Is labor the only resource you have to barter with?

Do you produce any Goods?

If not you are a slave just like the Jews of Egypt.

and the only way is to take your freedom back.

They do not want you to produce and Goods and Services with out regulation and restriction.

They are now looking at Farmers Markets as though they are a possible outbreak, take away the food that is good for you and force you to go to the super market for your needs.



posted on Feb, 18 2011 @ 12:33 AM
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7) PHARMACY
Stop buying the drugs and vaccines and work on improving your immune system. With all of the mind altering substances, people may become addicted and pacified - two extremely dangerous mental states to freedom. Obama's healthcare was possibly the greatest sale in American history after the Federal Reserve. That's why it was a 'big #in deal.' They make profits in the pharmaceutical industry. People need to remain sick to continue buying subscriptions. Wouldn't there be some incentive to keep people sick to make continuous profits? I'd rather suspect the possibility - than stay oblivious - and avoid going to a doctor as much as possible. Know what's good for your body.



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by Agarta
You know, for a site that people complain about the Government and its actions as well as the NWO, you would think that more would be interested in DOING SOMETHING. Apparently the people here are just talking and hashing out that which can not change without action with no intention of making a difference or attempting to find out what the next move is, otherwise this thread would be full, maybe their semianonymous posting is all they have the guts to do,because they still have fear. Case in point: the conversations on the Jerusalem UFO case, all that is talked about is whether or not it is a real ufo. When the point should be did it happen or made to create conflict or unity? beings the location used or visited is the most Religiously volatile area in the world. So go forward my friend and lets make a difference while they sit and talk about it.


First, thank you, OP, for directing me to this thread. You present a very good picture of how things work, and illustrate the fact that it is not the goods and services themselves that money represents, but the energy input (whether it is produced directly through Human sweat or indirectly through Human ingenuity and resources).

Agarta,

I am doing something. In my sig are links to information and idea formation that I have been actively spreading. All we need to do is spread the information to the tipping point. If we get that far, the rest will take care of itself.



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by Goal Shack
7) PHARMACY
Stop buying the drugs and vaccines and work on improving your immune system. With all of the mind altering substances, people may become addicted and pacified - two extremely dangerous mental states to freedom. Obama's healthcare was possibly the greatest sale in American history after the Federal Reserve. That's why it was a 'big #in deal.' They make profits in the pharmaceutical industry. People need to remain sick to continue buying subscriptions. Wouldn't there be some incentive to keep people sick to make continuous profits? I'd rather suspect the possibility - than stay oblivious - and avoid going to a doctor as much as possible. Know what's good for your body.


I agree with this completely. Cures are reviled in the industry. Cured people do not keep buying "cures" (which are only masks that themselves create additional issues for which further "cures" are offered).

I avoid the doctor, and haven't taken so much as an aspirin in decades. I use a more natural remedy - but because of T&C, I will not name that remedy here. It has been shown to assist in a wide array of issues - from stress relief to curing cancer, as well as treating pain (the reason I use it - I have a rheumatological condition and have low level pain always, sometimes flaring to extreme pain if I am not gentle with my joints).

Of course, that remedy is illegal because it is natural and cannot be patented.




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