Nibiru?? New planet to be discovered. Four times the size of Jupiter!

According to the article, Tyche's orbit would be moving through the Oort Cloud. This Oort Cloud is a huge sphere-like cloud surrounding our system, wonderfully full of all types of space bodies.

The Oort Cloud is 1 light year away from us... That's 10 trillion kms (9.460.000.000.000 kms), 6 trillion miles.

Keeping in mind Neptune is a relatively ridiculous 4'25 billion kms (2'80 billion miles) away and its orbit takes 165 years to revolt...

I roughly speculate a... 57'5 Million Years orbit for Tyche.

Originally posted by Electric Crown
you deserve extra scrutiny for having
phages calling card in your av.

that's just lame

That's John Lithgow, not Phage.

Originally posted by Wildeagle
Hi cluckerspud

I haven't had a chance to read your thread, but will gladly have a look through asap.
Thanks for the link!

On a side note, I am actually pleased that I started this thread now. I enjoy hearing both sides of the 'nibiru' phenomena. There was a lot of hype in other forums saying they thought it was nibiru/planet x... I wanted to bring it here to the ats community for proper speculation.
Thanks folks!

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So is it official?! Anything found in space is now considered part of the NIbiru Phenomena?!
The article does not not claim this is Nibiru. So why do you? Just curious.

Daily Mail

It has been common thought, since the 1980s, that our solar system is binary - there is a second sun (that never developed) out there in the distances. In fact - going back to the 60s, it was known a much larger planet might lurk somewhere, due to a gravitational effect on Neptune's orbit (a method used to detect planets)

This isn't Nibiru and, really, this isn't everything new

Originally posted by cluckerspud

Originally posted by Wildeagle
Hi cluckerspud

I haven't had a chance to read your thread, but will gladly have a look through asap.
Thanks for the link!

On a side note, I am actually pleased that I started this thread now. I enjoy hearing both sides of the 'nibiru' phenomena. There was a lot of hype in other forums saying they thought it was nibiru/planet x... I wanted to bring it here to the ats community for proper speculation.
Thanks folks!

edit on 14-2-2011 by Wildeagle because: (no reason given)

So is it official?! Anything found in space is now considered part of the NIbiru Phenomena?!
The article does not not claim this is Nibiru. So why do you? Just curious.

Um, no..I did not once say anything along that line. ''Anything found in space is now considered part of the NIbiru Phenomena''
I stated this.... '' I enjoy hearing both sides of the 'nibiru' phenomena.''
....Twisting my words

Nor did I state that I claim this to be nibiru....what I did say is this.....
''There was a lot of hype in other forums saying they thought it was nibiru/planet x... I wanted to bring it here to the ats community for proper speculation. ''
Although, I do have a very open mind. Anything is possible.



Maybe I need to say it again. I am bringing this forward, after reading of it elsewhere, and people claimed it to be this planet. I wanted to hear what you guys here thought. Got it?

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
reply to post by MrXYZ

 

Just consider more advanced technology or celestial travel of natural objects. It can run into one of the lil blackholes in the vicinity and pop up right below Earth. Or if natural lol can catch a ride on the suns or SOLs mag. field speeding up its travel -binary stars interaction-. I dont know if 2012 is late or early. I understand that fear can cause disbelief but this isnt the first time an object out there has been discussed. So 1 only recommends KEEP OPEN MINDS. "Sometimes we got to evaluate things of instinct/spiri"t and not try to use what we of EA know and assume no others have better ways of travel.

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Skeptical troll smurf responds (please take this in the spirit it is meant; a touch good natured of "tongue in cheek" ribbing!:
"Sometimes we got to evaluate things of instinct/spirit"

Sure because in the "new age" if you "really" want something to be true it can be because you "really"want it...
"(look Chaaaaarlie: Candy mountain"!)

Re: "open minds":
If your mind is "too open" there's no end to what may get lodged in there...

So since we are just throwing the known physical laws and reality completely out the window:
Go for it man: Why hold back there!..
Using that logic is like saying:" A Rhesus monkey in Malacca might fall into a random blackhole and pop out of my butt!

"could" happen..

couldn't it? ( what do we KNOW of random black holes and secretly brilliant monkey societies?)"Of course I'm not even sure Malacca has indigenous rhesus monkeys; I pulled that reference outta' my butt! So there you go...hard core "proof" a monkey should arrive anytime now!

I better start wearing trapdoor long johns so the little guy can get out. ..Do you see how theses absolutely anything goes rationalizations discredits the "deny ignorance" graphics I see plastered all over?

Originally posted by Wildeagle
Um, no..I did not once say anything along that line. ''Anything found in space is now considered part of the NIbiru Phenomena''
I stated this.... '' I enjoy hearing both sides of the 'nibiru' phenomena.''
....Twisting my words

I'm not twisting you words. I am trying to understand them.
You enjoy hearing both sides of the Nibiru Phenomena? Correct?

Yet the article you provided mentions nothing of the Nibiru Phenomena.

It's actually a very interesting article about our universe. NOT Nibiru. Do you see how I am not following?

No disrespect.

Anyone who feels that this is Nibiru must not have heard of Zacharia Stichins claims, since this (what you provided) does not fit the description at all of Nibirus presented by ZS.

reply to post by 46ACE


Ok. I think

Awesome discovery, once it is confirmed! I have a question though in regards to it being called Nibiru, is Not Nibiru the supposed home of the annunaki? If so, does a gas giant really qualify?

Originally posted by cluckerspud

Originally posted by Wildeagle
Um, no..I did not once say anything along that line. ''Anything found in space is now considered part of the NIbiru Phenomena''
I stated this.... '' I enjoy hearing both sides of the 'nibiru' phenomena.''
....Twisting my words

I'm not twisting you words. I am trying to understand them.
You enjoy hearing both sides of the Nibiru Phenomena? Correct?

Yet the article you provided mentions nothing of the Nibiru Phenomena.

It's actually a very interesting article about our universe. NOT Nibiru. Do you see how I am not following?

No disrespect

Ok, I hate to repeat this again... but it seems I need to, to help you understand why Nibiru was mentioned.
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'' I am bringing this forward, after reading of it elsewhere, and people claimed it to be this planet. I wanted to hear what you guys here thought''.
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Notice in the title...It says...''nibiru???''
A question..not a statement.

I don't know what it will eventually be named, but no matter what...It's interesting! Another reason for my posting it.

reply to post by CosmicCitizen


Using the estimate of "thousands" of times further from the Sun than the Earth (and the fact that the bulk of the Oort cloud is thought to be about 2000-5000 AU out, though it could extend to 50,000 AU, or possibly even 200,000 AU...but regardless of the higher estimates, we'll stick to the lower to give Tyche/Nibiru the shortest orbital period possible), we can estimate its orbital period. The formula for orbital period is:

T = 2*pi*sqrt(a^3/GM)

a is the semi-major axis (let's use 3000 AU, or 448,793,612,073 km)
G is the Gravitational Constant (6.67428 x 10^-11)
and M is the mass of the Sun (1.9891 x 10^30 kg)

This is an orbital period of 5184648863840.5 seconds, or about 164,300 years.

I've always thought that the so called "Nibiru" existed as planet itself... seeing as the Sumerians had incredible knowledge about planets and the solar system thousands of years before the first telescope reached for the sky.

I think the whole "2012 Planet X" thing has just latched onto the story of Nibiru like a leech, and thus has been pushed to the fringe of believability with god knows how many youtube videos of some guy pointing his camera at a star and being like "OMG OMG OMG ITS" NIBBIRRRRRRRUU!U!U!!U!!!!!"

Now maybe when it becomes "official", the sumerians will gain some more credibility.

To bad Stitching isn't around to see this...

reply to post by Wildeagle


Fair enough. I think the article stood on it's own with all it's wonder. That's all.

Originally posted by cluckerspud
reply to post by Wildeagle

 

Fair enough. I think the article stood on it's own with all it's wonder. That's all.

I can understand where you are coming from, it really is fascinating! But it was bugging me to see what others, on this forum thought about there being a connection to nibiru. I had to ask

I have Sitchins last book somewhere in my stacks and I am pretty darn sure that nibiru is not set to arrive in 2012. I need to dig around for his response regarding this, but I want to say something in line with 2030s or so. This planet if discovered to be true could very well be the supposed Nibiru of Sitchen's translations of the tablets...who knows..but what I do find interesting is how 2012 is suddenly and erroneously the effective date for all endtime cataclysm theories/prophecies and that is patently false.

2012 was to bring the breakdown of social structures, the fall of political systems as I recall from its meaning regarding the Mayan calendar as proposed by Jose Arguelles Mayan Factor. Its amazing all the sources of supposed Mayan elders etc..speaking on this come out of the woodwork thses days, when originally the Mayans were an enigma as they just disappeared...huh, now we have Mayan elders among us...

What if Sitchin was only partly right?
Niburu may be a planet whos influence sent oort cloud objects our way every 3600 years,
This discovery if its true may be a better fit, sometimes causing destruction sometimes not, depending on the amount of objects influenced and flung our way.

Originally posted by Wildeagle
I can understand where you are coming from, it really is fascinating! But it was bugging me to see what others, on this forum thought about there being a connection to nibiru. I had to ask

Well within response to "connection" to "nibiru". There is none. Not according to Zacharia Stichin (who is the god father of this Nibiru Planet idea). This does not fit the description that he made. Just saying.

4 times the size of Jupiter? Tyche sounds more like Nemesis - a proposed brown dwarf - to me. Interesting. Though I do note that:

...the Tyche hypothesis does have one flaw. Conventional theory holds that the gas giant should also dislodge comets from the inner Oort Cloud, but these have not been observed.

www.independent.co.uk...

reply to post by ANClENT


Search the archives. In 1982 the 12 celestial body was discovered and made headline news. After that, never heard about it again.

I do not believe its a planet. I think its a dwarf star. Also, I don't believe its due to pass through the system anytime soon ...

It does sound a lot like the, by scientists hypothesized, brown dwarf star named Nemisis, that's supposed to orbit the outer regions of our solar system (beyond the Oort cloud). Some scientists hold this hypothsized dwarf star responsible for the mass extinctions on earth that seem to occur at an interval rate of about 26 to 30 million years.

Luckily for us we're about halfway between those intervals.