Why do UFO's keep their lights on?

Originally posted by Orkojoker
If you do any amount of reading of the serious UFO literature, you realize almost immediately that they ARE seen during daylight hours.

Sorry I did mean the lights, most people seem to have understood that but I might of worded it badly

I assume it's just a type or types of UFO that are lit up, or have some internal light of some kind. The last two UFO's I've seen (one being tonight) have had no light, I've only seen them cos they've been reflecting the light beneath them (street lamps) I assume. It may seem like most UFO's have lights on but I guess that's just because it's easier for joe bloggs to see, but in my experience - I'd say just as many are out there which don't have bright lights attatched. And of course, by most, these will never be seen. But as to "why", I wouldn't begin to presume to know!

Versa,
If you haven't already seen it, you may find this thread of a daylight UFO interesting.

Edit to say: Sorry Versa et al, that video seems to have been busted as manipulated video. That'll teach me to post before I read!

Originally posted by BruceWayne
Versa,
If you haven't already seen it, you may find this thread of a daylight UFO interesting.

Thanks for the link
I started reading that one last night but haven't finished reading it all yet

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Well there are many daytime sightings with strange lights visible. But in the daytime scenario the whole craft seems to be glowing or "burning". You quite often find glowing balls of lights in such UFO descriptions. For me this very well sounds like energy being involved.

Everything we do here is just plain speculation as we do not understand the displayed technology. And you should always keep in mind that most probably there are many different species with different types of craft. They do not necessarily all behave the same way!

Answering this question factualy is of course, impossible, since none of us here have had the oppertunity to study the mechanics of any of the objects which have been reportedly witnessed . However, if you dont mind a little speculation then I will provide mine.
If one works from the point of veiw that such lights in the sky are extraterrestrial in origin , then this poses interesting points about the possibilities of the design and function of the craft or probe. Because we know little to nothing, about the ACTUAL drive systems that keep these things aloft, we could be forgiven for speculating that some of the light is produced by some concentrated gravity matrix, altering the effects of gravity on the machine by effectively confusing gravity and making it repulse rather than attract the object. If this were achieved by gyrating a heavy metal with a strong magnetic feild, at ridiculous pace, one could suggest without overmuch emphasis on accuracy that the light was being produced by the friction vested upon the gyrating element which controls the interaction between the object and gravity.
On the other hand, there are some lights in the sky which might not suit that explanation. It could be that some of the lights that have been witnessed are attatched to some kind of scanner, or energy based probe. Some suggest that lights on UFO are there as camoflage, because the UFO occupants/controlers know that we humans have an obession with our blinking beacons on tall buildings and aircraft.
There are so many ways to explain the lights on UFO that sufficiently nerdish folks could probably have a convention on that small matter alone ! But my main thought is that some how they are related to the drive and navigational systems aboard whatever vehicle, remote controled or manned these things turn out to be.

Originally posted by Versa
If a UFO wished to remain unseen at night it simply has to turn of its lights.
Therefore its safe to assume that a UFO with lights wishes to be seen or doesn't care if it is seen.

If UFO's (in this case extraterrestrial crafts) are happy to be seen then they should also be seen during daylight hours.

If ET doesn't mind being seen then why don't amateur astronomers see them and photograph them using their very good telescopes and cameras on a very regular basis?


Why aren't there any 100% undebunkable UFO pictures? Enough people own decent telescopes and cameras now....

There lies my problem

Yes, it is YOUR problem. Only YOUR problem. People DO photograph UFOs with their telescopes. I have seen dozens of amazing photos and hours of remarkable film footage taken through telescopes. There is a very simple explanation why UFOs are mostly seen through telescopes at night rather than during the day. For obvious reasons, they are more discernible against a black background. Few people would want to spend days and days looking through telescopes in the day in the small hope of spotting one. It would be like looking for the Yeti in the Himalayas!

There ARE 100% undebunkable photos of UFOs. The fact that YOU have not happened to come across them is YOUR problem. You have not seen EVERY alleged UFO picture ever taken. So, it's hardly a problem for the subject of UFOs, as you want your post to imply, even though you don't say so explicitly. What one calls 100% undebunkable is a personal matter. Different people have different standards. Even if you found such a beast, there would no doubt be someone here on ATS who would believe he could debunk it, although whether he was right or not is another matter. What is undebunkable is always a matter of opinion. And so is what some regard as debunkable, don't forget.

They are probably of quite different kinds, some of them even maybe produced
by medium of our minds and it is thoughtless to be discussed their intentionality
this way. I can give the next example. Three times walking on the street I saw
something like red translucent orbs seeming as a big dots of a red laser pointer
projected between me and the faces of the going against me persons, two times
on one and the same place in the town I live in and once in another town. What was
this I still don't know. Long before these events I saw once a little spiraling in its fly fireball.
And all that excludes the other real UFOs seen by me so far. From all read and
observed I can tell that some of them are trying to contact with us, but we not knowing
who of them are friendly to us are too cautious. And it is proved for some of them
that they can read the human thoughts or at least the human intentions.

I can only think of one legit reason for ET craft to use lights. It would be for the same reason our aircraft use them.

Collision Avoidance

It's safe to say that the only ones you see are the ones with their lights on. Therefore - we don't really know how many are cruising around with their lights off!

Originally posted by micpsi

Yes, it is YOUR problem. Only YOUR problem. People DO photograph UFOs with their telescopes. I have seen dozens of amazing photos and hours of remarkable film footage taken through telescopes.

Would you care to post them? No I haven't seen them so I would be very happy to do so... I am not and have never said that I don't believe.... I said I had a problem, not that my problem was insurmountable.

There ARE 100% undebunkable photos of UFOs.

again I would be very grateful if you would post the evidence for me to see because as you so clearly stated I have not yet come across them, this is not an issue that you need to get aggrieved about, I'm not claiming that UFO's dont exist.

The fact that YOU have not happened to come across them is YOUR problem. You have not seen EVERY alleged UFO picture ever taken. So, it's hardly a problem for the subject of UFOs

Yes it is AS I SAID my problem..... I didn't claim it to be a generic problem for all UFO hunters.... No I have not seen every picture of every UFO taken (I don't recall hinting that I had?)

Your aggressive stance is unnecessary I would love to see the evidence that you have, I am searching for evidence that I have yet to come across, forgive me for believing that this search is not a sin. Please feel free to share the evidence that you have, the evidence that you have might end my search.

Originally posted by Unknown Origin
I can only think of one legit reason for ET craft to use lights. It would be for the same reason our aircraft use them.

Collision Avoidance

edit on 18-2-2011 by Unknown Origin because: (no reason given)

I think its safe to assume that a craft capable of intergalactic/hyperspace travel can manage to avoid collision without relying on lights.

Originally posted by The_Zomar
It's safe to say that the only ones you see are the ones with their lights on. Therefore - we don't really know how many are cruising around with their lights off!

While this is a good point it doesn't actually cover the need for the lights.... As other posters have mentioned this could be down to the propulsion systems but..... that doesn't always work as many UFO's seem to have flashing red/blue/white lights that wink and appear to be just lights.

Originally posted by mrMasterJoe
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Everything we do here is just plain speculation as we do not understand the displayed technology. And you should always keep in mind that most probably there are many different species with different types of craft. They do not necessarily all behave the same way!

I whole heartedly agree we don't understand but we shouldn't stop trying just because something seems irrational/unexplainable to us. By sitting back and covering the 'unknowns' with 'we cant expect to understand' we risk becoming a believer without rationale, we risk in fact reverting to 'faith' and when one has 'faith' one gives up the search for truth. Simply saying 'this is something anomalous that we can't begin to understand' is a slippery slope to a kind of dogmatic belief in something.

As a good refresher course for the phenomena involved, read about the 'visible light spectrum' and begin following links. I used wikipedia. Eventually you wind up at ultraviolet, microwaves, x rays. At the other end are infrared energy, seen as heat, with longer wavelengths. There's a hell of a lot we do not see, as unaided observers. I don't think totb have the whole spectrum thing down either, and there's more beyond that, dimensionally. Just pointing out that there's more than meets the eye. Et could, or would likely be aware of nasa's or naval technologies, I would assume, as well as human presence or observance by humans....do I give them too much credit?

I know what man has developed, so Et would necessarily be beyond their brain.

They would be violating intergalatic travel laws, and would be liable for a fine and some points on their saucer flying license?

Originally posted by BruceWayne
From what I have gathered the glowing could be a side effect of the electrogrivitic fields used by the ships.
I also believe that this partly answers the apparent connection to water and these craft.

I agree. Just last week I had a sighting that made me wonder if what I saw were its lights or a propulsion system. I've lived in the southwestern tip of Puerto Rico for close to 20 years now and I have seen many flying objects. For the first time I was able to view one of these objects through a pair of 16x50 binoculars and was surprised. What I thought was a single bright light over the mountain was in fact 3 yellow lights at equal distance from each other and at a 45 degree angle. The 3 lights stayed at this angle as one by one each light slowly disappeared behind the mountain, while maintaining that 45 degree angle. I'm no pilot but it makes more sense to me that what was illuminating had to be it's propulsion system because to slow down that much would take a lot of energy. If this is one of ours then we got something really impressive,and if it isn't, then they do.

In my humble opinion... UFO's keep their lights on because they are United States Objects and do not want planes to fly into them. If they were not United States Objects and truly 'alien' from other planets, what would they need lights for to begin with?

Count me among those that think the "lights" might be an effect from the propulsion system. If they turned off the lights, they'd fall out of the sky. Clearly it's some kind of of electromagnetic field that becomes more visible during the night because there's no sunlight to drown it out. I will note that maybe it's possible that the bluriness we get in daytime photographs might also be from the same magnetic field, distorting the wider spectrum of light.

Originally posted by Versa
If a UFO wished to remain unseen at night it simply has to turn of its lights.
Therefore its safe to assume that a UFO with lights wishes to be seen or doesn't care if it is seen.

If UFO's (in this case extraterrestrial crafts) are happy to be seen then they should also be seen during daylight hours.

If ET doesn't mind being seen then why don't amateur astronomers see them and photograph them using their very good telescopes and cameras on a very regular basis?


Why aren't there any 100% undebunkable UFO pictures? Enough people own decent telescopes and cameras now....

There lies my problem

because they are not light,they are engines.