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Endtimes Black Hole Projecting Weapon

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posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 03:54 AM
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I had a question for everyone, I was watching these videos that make fun of Alex Jones when I came across this

He mentions a endtimes demonic black hole projecting weapon, does anyone have any information on this? or know what hes talking about
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posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 03:58 AM
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The only physical thing on this planet, that i'm aware of, with the power to potentially make a black hole, would be the LHC at CERN. And that's like a 1, in eleventy-billion chance.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 04:09 AM
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how the hell did this guy get a radio show anyhow. does crazy really sell that well?

perhaps I should start a insane ranting about nonsense channel also.

demonic black hole guns...gotta admit, pretty sweet concept...I woulda went with a mini super nova gun myself though...make them burst into light on impact.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 04:11 AM
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The description makes absolutely no sense.

You need vast amounts of mass to create a black hole.

The misconception is that a black hole is some sort of portal, it's not, It's a thing. This thing is super-massive compressed matter into a single point in space. This produces a huge gravity well that "feeds" the black hole by 'attracting' other matter.

AJ is a moron. you can't "project" a black hole.
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posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 04:18 AM
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You're not talking about that vid a while ago from the Netherlands(?) that showed a blue beam of light coming from behind a mountain (it's always the same..illusionists always need curtains) and projecting a blue, swirling light that formed into an image of a 'black' hole forming inside it, are you?



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 04:26 AM
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No, i'm talking about the weapon AJ is describing in the video. Which seems kinda sci fi



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 04:33 AM
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No self respecting sci fi writer would come up with tripe like that.

AJ needs to go outside and get some sun..Lack of vitamin D is eating his brain.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 04:36 AM
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It has taken me some time to realise AJ is a disinfo warrior. He mixes it up so well, a little bit of fact and a little bit of fiction. Just enough disclosure to get you interested then comes the crap! Sucks you in with some credible info then hits you with the lies. This man is a shill and i cant believe he had me going for almost a year.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 04:43 AM
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The second was an unnamed weapon in the Peacekeeper/Scarran War which was designed by John Crichton and installed into Moya. It created a black hole that grew exponentially larger and would continue to do so until it engulfed the entire galaxy if not stopped. John used it to show the Scarran and the Peacekeepers that wormhole weapons and the war that they were fighting would ensure mutual destruction. He in effect held both races and the entire galaxy hostage to make peace and succeeded. (The Peacekeeper Wars)

farscape.wikia.com...



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 04:43 AM
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Originally posted by projectvxn
The description makes absolutely no sense.

You need vast amounts of mass to create a black hole.

The misconception is that a black hole is some sort of portal, it's not, It's a thing. This thing is super-massive compressed matter into a single point in space. This produces a huge gravity well that "feeds" the black hole by 'attracting' other matter.

AJ is a moron. you can't "project" a black hole.
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Since we don't know what has or hasn't been developed over the decades, it's reasonable to make a loose assumption that in theory at least, that while it may be impossible to project a black hole, it may be theoretically possible to project an energy weapon, such as scalar or derivatives of that technology, in order to create the conditions favourable to the formation of a black hole.

So, while we cannot project a fully fledged hole as such, we may be able to project the seeds of one.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 04:47 AM
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Originally posted by spikey

Originally posted by projectvxn
The description makes absolutely no sense.

You need vast amounts of mass to create a black hole.

The misconception is that a black hole is some sort of portal, it's not, It's a thing. This thing is super-massive compressed matter into a single point in space. This produces a huge gravity well that "feeds" the black hole by 'attracting' other matter.

AJ is a moron. you can't "project" a black hole.
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Since we don't know what has or hasn't been developed over the decades, it's reasonable to make a loose assumption that in theory at least, that while it may be impossible to project a black hole, it may be theoretically possible to project an energy weapon, such as scalar or derivatives of that technology, in order to create the conditions favourable to the formation of a black hole.

So, while we cannot project a fully fledged hole as such, we may be able to project the seeds of one.



Those were my thoughts as well, not exactly but something like it



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 04:47 AM
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Nah ah. We need a basic understanding of physics.

Not supposition from the likes of AJ who is by no means a respectable scientist.
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posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 05:13 AM
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We do have a basic understanding of physics though...don't we?

And when i say 'we' i mean human science in general.

We also have, in addition to the general mainstream sciences, clandestine (well, several if we're talking internationally) research and development projects continually under way that we have very little knowledge of, save for the odd rumour or clue here and there.

I think it's certainly a safe bet to say that there are technologies and developments that would both surprise and shock the average Joe, in what can be achieved technologically these days.

Of course, none of us will know for sure, if they have a 'gravity beam weapon/tool' or if that belongs solely in the realms of Sci-Fi or not.

But personally, i feel they have stuff that would probably raise the eyebrows of even the most outlandish futurist visionary. I don't see why a 'gravity well' device, or a 'scalar beam on steroids' or something totally different couldn't have been worked on over the years.

AJ doesn't need to be a scientist, or even particularly visionary to be able to speculate on the possibility of the tech he's talking about does he?

Or to repeat or make a talking point from the research that others have carried out, doesn't necessarily require him to understand all the in's and out's to just talk about it does it?

We're talking about it, and as far as i know, we're not advanced particle physicists..well, i'm not at any rate.

The whole thing could be and probably is a leaky bucket of nuts, but i wouldn't be prepared to write anything off these days without at least considering the remote possibility there may be some substance or a grain of truth to it.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 05:26 AM
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That's all fine and dandy. But the same understanding of science should jive with the kind of weapons capabilities AJ is describing if this were true no?

Clandestine research does not mean the rules of physics have changed. It just means the funding is better.


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posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by projectvxn
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That's all fine and dandy. But the same understanding of science should jive with the kind of weapons capabilities AJ is describing if this were true no?

Clandestine research does not mean the rules of physics have changed. It just means the funding is better.


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Oh i don't know, before stealth people would have scoffed at how an aircraft the size of a school bus could be engineered to have the radar reflectivity of something the size of a small bird. People would have argued about the physics being 'out there'. Or that 'metamaterials' could be used to engineer an 'invisibility cloak', or that quantum entanglement was a reality and what happened to one particle, would be replicated exactly to it's 'paired' particle, regardless of distance or even (recently discovered) time itself.

And myriad other examples of advances in areas of physics (or more accurately, our understanding and application of those physics).

My complete view would be that physics do not change, only our understanding and interpretation of those physics does.

We know what we know, but don't seem to know, that we do not know all there is to know. (Rumsfeld moment)

The 'better financed' clandestine research may (and probably does) understand processes and how to engineer and apply currently understood physics in ways, or using methods that the mainstream has not yet discovered, and perhaps will not discover for decades to come in the open sciences.

It's not about suddenly stumbling over 'new physics', as the physics would have been in existence all along...just waiting for us to utilise in new and innovative ways, to produce new effects.

It's all supposition of course, but one based on prior public discoveries of black project science that has since been brought into the light.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 05:50 AM
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Yes but stealth aircraft don't violate every known principle of physics.

the point I'm making is that a black hole creation weapon is impossible unless you can literally create the mass out of thin air. And that, my friend, doesn't jive anywhere in the observable universe, even less so here on Earth.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 08:33 AM
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I have played one version of the civilisation game series in which a suit was made of the black hole material / dense neutron stars. It was pretty effective as you just had to walk around and the immense mass caused earthquakes and had really strong defences. In reality you would have to be careful with such a suit as if you cracked the earth surface, gravity would pull you down to the centre of the earth and it would be a tough spot to get out of. Leave you suit and you burn, stay in your suit and you weigh too much to leave. I have no idea how you would make such a thing but it is one of those sci/fi things to think about.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by ANClENT
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No, i'm talking about the weapon AJ is describing in the video. Which seems kinda sci fi
What weapon?the bunny rabbit -demon weapon?



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by projectvxn
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Yes but stealth aircraft don't violate every known principle of physics.

the point I'm making is that a black hole creation weapon is impossible unless you can literally create the mass out of thin air. And that, my friend, doesn't jive anywhere in the observable universe, even less so here on Earth.


Oh don't get me wrong projectvxn,

I'm not being argumentative for the sake of it, i really do hear you and agree, that out in the published or open sciences, it is to our current knowledge totally impossible to 'project a gravity well or black hole'.

And yeah, covert projects as well as open projects in this part of the Multiverse at least, have to follow the same physical laws and operating limitations.

But, what i'm saying is that because of their very nature, covert or black projects and research are..hidden from the wider world, and as such, we are not privy to the advances made during the research, until much later, normally decades later, when elements of it are commercialised and filter out to the public.

It goes without saying that these covert research efforts pay off, as we have seen the results of past covert activity that has been commercialised and made public. Nuclear power being one, stealth, fibre optics, the Silicon chip, lasers, meta-materials, radar, rocketry, materials sciences etc.etc.

Who's to say that these same research efforts haven't produced advances in our understanding of gravity and electromagnetic projection? Some would argue that has already happened (ELF, HAARP, Rail gun tech).

But what is certain, is that *if* advances have been made covertly in these areas, we the public will probably not hear about it, save for the odd rumour or two, until they wish to commercialise the technology in a 'civilian format', which will only be done once the covert research has superseded the original..iow, when they have something better, we get told about the old, about to be obsolete tech.

Mind you, having said all that, if you follow Quantum physics and all that entails and implies, 'our physics' are only 'our physics', because that is what we believe them to be. We put limits on our own physical reality, which in turn limits the physical reality open to our perception.

But, hey...that's getting waaaay out there...even for me.

Cheers.



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 08:55 PM
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I think its really unlikely. Only thing possible is the LHC but thats a very very very very very small chance of happening. I dont think anyone has the technology to make a black hole ( even ET's ). And why would you even want to create one? it could become out of control and an unstoppable killing machine.



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