An astronaut’s image and The Tether Incident – something I noticed...

Originally posted by NLDelta9
I just want to know how the tether managed to be straight line and not a swirly mess like when it broke?

Because the broken tether was still collecting energy and the plasma flux straightened it out... Most people just look at the 'Critters' and have little understanding of what the tether is or how it works.

Basically it is a 'free energy device' Simply put you drag a 12 mile long copper wire through the Earth's magnetic field at 17,500 miles per hour and collect electricity (plasma). Problem was that NASA scientists under estimated the potential and didn't install a $100 circuit breaker thus lost a $100 million satellite

The thing is the info is easy to find to anyone who looks

NASA Press release fed from their FTP server
RELEASE: 96-112 June 4, 1996
TETHERED SATELLITE INVESTIGATION REPORT IS RELEASED

Findings of the board, included in a 358-page document, identified primary causes which accounted for the tether break during deployment of the Tethered Satellite.

"The tether failed as a result of arcing and burning of the tether, leading to a tensile failure after a significant portion of the tether had burned away," the report concludes. The arcing occurred because either external foreign object penetration (but not orbital debris or micrometeoroids) or a defect in the tether caused a breach in the layer of insulation surrounding the tether conductor. The insulation breach provided a path for the current to jump, or arc, from the copper wire in the tether to a nearby electrical ground.

And, it noted that the high voltages under which the system was operating could, over a period of time, have reduced the ability of the tether insulation to withstand electrical breakdown due to contamination found in the tether.

"The tether itself was a remarkable engineering achievement," said Ken Szalai, who chaired the investigative board, "and produced some startling scientific discoveries." Scientific papers recently presented at an American Geophysical Union conference reported that currents generated by the tether were three times higher than theoretical models had predicted prior to the flight.

SOURCE

Here it says "Three times expected... the final report says as high as ten times

RELEASE: 96-43 May 23, 1996
EARLY FINDINGS FROM TETHERED SATELLITE MISSION
POINT TO REVAMPING OF SPACE PHYSICS THEORIES

Numerous space physics and plasma theories are being revised or overturned by data gathered during the Tethered Satellite System Reflight (TSS-1R) experiments on Space Shuttle Columbia’s STS-75 mission last March.

Models, accepted by scientists for more than 30 years, are incorrect and must be rewritten. This assessment follows analysis by a joint U.S.-Italian Tethered Satellite investigating team of the information gathered during the mission.

Source

Models, accepted by scientists for more than 30 years, are incorrect and must be rewritten.

And that is from NASA itself. The full report and other papers are all done in the long thread and on my site. Don't have the time to redo it again

But hope that helps you

here's the frame from the video



it's just a desktop background image

but it does indicate that Astronauts are interested in Alien UFOs too



spaceflight.nasa.gov...

reply to post by easynow


It definitely the same image on the laptop as the wallpaper, but where are the 2 saucers on the left? They should be visible, more so than the saucer behind the main one. Just my 2 cent observation, though meaningless.

reply to post by zorgon


I like how you quoted only the last sentence of my post. To be fair I said it was probably the correct conclusion. I didn't say definately. The rest of my post showed my own.theory on it.

More has been done to explain how it is not alien life forms than has been done to prove that it is, so maybe the focus should not be on people to continue to debunk the alien theory but on people to prove the debunkers wrong?

Originally posted by ScorpioRising
More has been done to explain how it is not alien life forms than has been done to prove that it is, so maybe the focus should not be on people to continue to debunk the alien theory but on people to prove the debunkers wrong?

Well in either case the debunkers avoid the motion question... as you have done

And I don't believe they are Alien spacecraft anyway, but plasma life forms that are native to Earth and drawn like moths to a flame in this case the tether as a plasma source, in the case of STS-80 to the plasma energy of thunderstorms

reply to post by zorgon


I haven't avoided it, I'm just not very good at all that stuff so why try only to prove I'm a fool? I'll leave that to the pros! But you saying about the plasma life is virtually the same as my theory. That it could be teeny life forms. I just feel that much has been done to debunk so it's only fair to ask for the proof as well

reply to post by SpiritualAwakening


Well it's a screen saver, isn't it? It's likely a piece of artwork.

Originally posted by ScorpioRising I just feel that much has been done to debunk so it's only fair to ask for the proof as well

Well the thing about ATS you can spend WEEKS working on that evidence then a few days later someone comes along and says "show me the proof" Despite the fact that I already linked twice to the thread where even Jim Oberg sent me a document from NASA telling about their study of the pesky 'plasma phenomena" plaguing their space craft.

I mean just look at all the threads where people respond to the op and never read more than that to see if it's already posted (example in the one above mine )

It's an impossible task... and sadly many good contributors on both sides of the fence have left ATS

My guess from having 7 engineers in my immediate family, that the computer screen saver is a joke
for the conspiracy theorists. The Engineers get off on intellectual jokes heavily. The astronauts know they are being watched. The one engineer in my family who works in the satellite programs wants me to think the whole idea 2012 is absolutely nuts. His ego is in orbit. He interned at NASA.

Originally posted by manmental
Hiya,
just in case people haven't seen this... its a must see debunking of the sts-75 tether incident.

This say's nothing.

Ice crystals don't do circles and change flight paths in the vacuum of space.

An abject in motion tends to stay in motion.

Originally posted by timewalker
This say's nothing.
Ice crystals don't do circles and change flight paths in the vacuum of space.
An object in motion tends to stay in motion.

Yeah but the thing is debunkers who are always using science and physics to debunk, are just as quick to toss Isaac Newton out the air lock when it suits them



It's all smoke and mirrors with them, in their zeal to debunk, they will use any misdirection they can and hope no one notices.

reply to post by zorgon
Laws of physics don't apply when it's convenient. Usually that would be the believer's view.

I love it when they suddenly don't apply to "identified objects" to the skeptics.

You can't have it both ways.

Space Jelly Fish!


edit: Milestone - This was my 1000th post. - Official Addict.

reply to post by easynow


And if it was the millenium falcon or the USS Enterprise, i'd agree with you. But the UFO in that pic isn't from any pop culture product, nor have I seen it anywhere else. Its a totally original design if its a fake, which means a lot of effort went into making it.

Didnt anyone see my original post? I had a comparison between the one in the pic and the turkey UFO. They are very, very similar.

Originally posted by zorgon
It's all smoke and mirrors with them, in their zeal to debunk, they will use any misdirection they can and hope no one notices.

I think you are not fair, or at least presenting one convenable point of view, while the promoters of "cool stuff" (i.e. anything it must be UFO, critter etc) are using much more "smoke and mirrors" in promoting their stuff and cultivating their audience, but it seems is ok for them doing this.

By the way, nice picture of Fate Magazine cover of the Kenneth Arnold sighting
Fate Magazine, Volume 1 Number 1, Spring 1948
showing some notched discs.

Speaking about real notched discs (or aren't they real?), I also have one more example of notched disks, very similar to tether incident discs, dropa stone discs with nothces, and yours posted cover magazin picture, but taken from a shuttle's B&W camera in space when filming MIR station:





...taken from in the begining of the video.




For folks wondering about some tether incident aspects, including determining distance to some representative objects, trajectories etc, can be seen here: www.abovetopsecret.com...
(warning: debunker work there! so, better not to visit that thread if you love tether incident!)


Oh, to be on-topic: i guess it is simple a wallpaper.

The Dropa Shape (for lack of a better description) shows up in a lot of videos.

The things are going behind the tether. I have seen the illusion they show...No Way.

This shape is somehow tied to Ufology.

www.youtube.com... Explanation

just did a side by side, same picture. u can see the other ships



possible alt. explanation. they just painted over the original picture to make a disinfo wallpaper... but probably just a normal wallpaper.

Originally posted by depthoffield
I think you are not fair,

Sure I am I posted the link to that thread several times... no need to start the debate all over again here.

But I swear you probably get notified by robot when someone says 'StS-75" just like Eeed Whacker magically pops up when you say "chemtrails"

Originally posted by depthoffield

Speaking about real notched discs (or aren't they real?), I also have one more example of notched disks, very similar to tether incident discs, dropa stone discs with nothces, and yours posted cover magazin picture, but taken from a shuttle's B&W camera in space when filming MIR station:





...taken from

in the begining of the video.

Sorry, coudn' edit anymore my last post, so i have to say that it is credit from youtube user named "sebastiansz" for finding the above notched disc. More off-topic I have to say he has a wonderfull "Earth seen from space" collection of videos (in HD) in his youtube channel, worth to make full screen the videos and just "fly" yourself a bit in orbit...

reply to post by depthoffield

yeah it is pretty cool... shows the notched disks actually in focus while the rest is fuzzy.. No Bokehs there

Guess I will have to add it to my data and give you credit for finding more discs

reply to post by depthoffield


Very good find. It just goes to show that the tehter incident was no fluke with random particles or whatever showing up on the lens...