Jerusalem UFO debunked in detail by CBS News

Originally posted by NWOnoworldorder
reply to post by Rising Against
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i had read and im sure commented in the thread that u provided and all i see is conjecture and opinions of people who are not qualified to give specialist facts ....FACT

This post and the subsequent ones are a good starting point.

Well as we all know and perceive , the MSN NEVER lie or take part in/do what their real masters dictate.Look at the MSNs history in manipulating news on world events.Now the real question here is WHY the so called intelligent people who consider their opinions as gospel truth on this matter as a confirmed 100& hoax TRUST what known manipulators/liars and forked tongued news media out lets say or proclaim to be the status quo; Do in fact intelligent people TRUST known liars and manipulators of the truth;

reply to post by Rising Against


look please stop showing me the threads that i have already read or took part in....i have debated in almost every thread concerning this footage and not once have i been presented with any type of evidence that debunks the video from all 3 angles btw!

as i have sed b4 and will repaet this last time....this footage has not been debunked by anyone in a position to do so, and people on ats im afraid dont have the specialist skills required to do so and can only put forth thier opinion.

I guess someone at CBS news visits and reads ATS now and again.

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


I agree..... since when does the MSM go out of their way to debunk UFO sightings? There are thousands that they could debunk.... yet they don't. It's popular?? so what.... a lot of UFO videos are popular and then laughed at. Why is this different?

The more these sightings happen the more LIES there will be along with disinfo campaigns so TPTB can maintain control.

The CBS article is poorly written and biased.

Here is a quote from the article.

'If you were one of the first people in the world to capture some of the most amazing video footage of a UFO taken in the past decade, why would you post it anonymously on YouTube instead of either submitting it to professional analysis, or making money by selling it to CNN or MSNBC? (In fact, there's some speculation that most or all of the videos were actually posted by a single person, which would guarantee a hoax.) Surely at least one of the videographers -- or someone working with them — would have come forward in the past 10 days to sell their story to a newspaper or tabloid. Suspicious.'

Suspicious? What about the Turkey UFO? Isn't that what the guy who took the video did? But from what I can see, CBS or the author didn't give it any coverage. And the 'experts' on ATS claimed that was a hoax. So does that mean everyone who takes their UFO videos to a media outlet is telling the truth? Or everyone who downloads their UFO footage on youtube is lying?

The article then goes onto say that a million people live and Jerusalem yet no-one else saw the light or flash. Well thats because at 1am, most people will be in bed.

The author is then not happy because the light is too small to be a spacecraft! Has the author ever seen a spacecraft to make such conclusions? If so, why is this one too small? And no-one said it was a spacecraft it was described as a UFO.

The American lady said 'you can almost hardly look at it' but the object was not reflecting off the golden dome. There could be many reasons for this. The object may not be directly over the dome and the dome may be dirty or dusty or the lady may have bad eyesight. The article goes onto say that the generic light is the easiest 'UFO' to fake. Really? None of the 'experts' on ATS could recreate it.

And as already mentioned, the article does not include the second craft which the light flies to.

The article provides no evidence apart from assumptions and opinions, just like the debunkers here. The author of the article boasts to have debunked other UFO footage and is the Managing Director of the Skeptical Inquirer. Says it all.

NEXT

not saying its not a hoax but lets trust the media outlets that purposfully ignore the genocides that occur in africa..such as rawanda etc.....sorry but these media outlets are massively controlled...the same media outfits that would lable a site like ats as full of conspiracy theorists and looneys...sorry just like the FDA they only pay attention to what they are told to pay attention to .

well for a Main Stream News out let they do not have very good investigators, for one they state in the article "unknown persons" well all one has to do is go to YT you tube type in "UFO over temple mount"or "dome of the rock" and see "when the first up link was made", that is how i did it, not that hard, and yes "only 4 videos" were posted at first, no more.
You think some thing like this would have 100's if not thousands of videos, nope, not the case just 4 that have been copied and recopied, now i find that odd in it self but there is more, No IDF reports, No Israel TV or news articles other than the first report. Why do they, the ones that videoed remain in the dark?
No videos from any of the Big Brother cams does temple mount/dome of the rock not have 24/7 surveillance?
Why yes it does, now would that not have the flash?
Would not some one say hay here it is ?
H ere it is a week+ later and still no new videos
Yes i am a believer in UFO's,and UAC, unidentified air craft, if people would spend just a few minutes looking up you too will see, are they from this world or other off world ??? till one lands and some thing /life from comes out and shows it's self no one will know the truth till then it is just ????
One last thing i will keep looking for new videos from the night in question, but as time goes by the chances of it being for real get bleaker and bleaker.

Belief is a powerful thing and in many cases will defy knowledge even when its point blank in the face. Trying to debate with the believers of this hoax is like an atheist debating with a Christian. It always ends the same. They don't CARE what science or the evidence shows - PERIOD. End of story. Sure all the facts and evidence may be on the side of this being a hoax but the debunkers are still wrong.

Sometimes a cigar is a cigar. I'm sure the mods will be along shortly to close this thread.

hoax or not
I was highly annoyed by that CBS site.
They have a 10 second refresh rate which
kept interrupting my reading the article.
Every time it refreshed, it moved the page
to another spot in the story. Quite annoying
to say the least, but what do you expect
from a site that cares more about advertising
spots than the news story?

thumbs down to CBS for wasting
5 mins of my life

reply to post by Terrormaster


perhaps if science and proof as you say were posted to prove it fake then we would have a situation...as its stands NOTHING has been presented that proves it fake other than the opinion of fellow ats'ers.

cmon keep up!

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


You're really working that God-in-the-Gaps for all it's worth, aren't you?

No single piece of evidence or study will or can prove anything 100%. However, a preponderance of evidence (or studies) can show what is most likely. While the preponderance of evidence tells us the Jerusalem UFO video is most likely a hoax, you are relying on the tiny chance that it isn't, that somehow that tiny percentage is most powerful than the preponderance.

Originally posted by NWOnoworldorder
perhaps if science and proof as you say were posted to prove it fake then we would have a situation...as its stands NOTHING has been presented that proves it fake other than the opinion of fellow ats'ers.

cmon keep up!

Not opinions, facts. You want to dismiss them as "opinion" so that you may cite the God-in-the-Gaps as proof of your beliefs.

reply to post by WingedBull


please enlighten me as to how its "most likley a hoax"? how does one come to a certain percentage of something being a hoax as opposed to it being real? im confused...

firstly most of the people who shouted hoax were in fact the same people who sed that it would be easy to recreate...yet till this date havent been able to do so and especially not from 3 diff angles.

also all the people who shouted hoax and claimed to debunk the video actually never did debunk it..as it stands it HAS NOT been debunked.

so your hypothesis of it most likeley being fake..is just that! no proof otherwise...same as i believe it to be real..i jhave no proof.

so we can sit and debate till the cows come home...this case is still an open book and to skeptics such as yourself im sure thats an annoying concept.

reply to post by WingedBull


point out these SO CALLED FACTS?!?

nothing is fact unless backed up with irrefutable evidence which has not been done therfor its all just opinion.

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


There's no point in reiterating the facts for you because your mind is already made up. Apparently, in your eyes, posters in an online community are just a bunch of geeks sitting in their mom's basement. When in reality you have no clue what most of the rest of the community does for a living IRL, what our skillsets or qualifications are. On the other hand if it comes from the MSM you'll just throw out the claim that the MSM is controlled and are lying. Like I said. No matter what evidence is presented you'll find some means to personally discredit it because it doesn't agree with your preconceived belief that this is not a hoax.

Do you think I'm a disbeliever? I want to belief more than you know. I for one am ready to accept my alien overlords.

reply to post by Terrormaster


my mind isnt already made up, i have an OPINION and that opnion is that the footage from 3 different angles is real...had evidence to prove it was a hoax been presented then obviously my mind and opinion would change however this has not been done.

to further add credence to that footage, a week ago there was an eerily similar sighting caught by 2 witnesses in the us and was covered my msm, red lights in sky, glowing orb decending etc....

but until its proven beyond reasonable doubt that its fake then my opinion stands.

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


You don't have any opinions, you have faith.
The guy above you is right, you won't accept any evidence, it's not worth the time to debate with you. There is a link where those videos are debunked it was posted in every thread concerning this hoax, read it.

If you don't get why it's a hoax then at least don't waste our time.

reply to post by ommadawn


It always cracks me up when the media debunks the scams, yet never attempts to explain things with actual evidence. Case in point, stephenville texas in 2007/2008

reply to post by BobbyTarass


i will accept evidence that proves that it is a hoax please dont tell me what i will and will not do, or assume to know my thought patterns, i have an OPINION not faith..

as for my belief that a new world order exists? well perhaps one should check up on oned history starting with secret societys such as the illuminati, knights templar, freemasons....research friend befor throwing your rubbish about