Rise of the Anti-Christ

Originally posted by CholmondleyWarner
Seems to me that you have a huge downer on human beings!
To you, individual genius doesn't exist!
To you, individuality doesn't exist!
To you, sensitivity and sensuality doesn't exist!
To you, love and sex don't exist!

Where have you pulled such meaning from my words my friend? Nothing could be further from the truth.

Individuality is GoOD! God created over 1400 species of Ants! He loves variety!
Genius is GoOD! It is a gift from God to be a genius! Where does such intellect come from? Man cannot create it. If he could, we would ALL be geniuses.
Sensitivity and Sensuality are GoOD! They too are gifts from God. Who knows the true definition of euphoric bliss more so than two lovers in full embrace. This is Divine!
Sex is GoOD! Without it the urge to procreate may have been side tracked while we focus on slaughtering each other. Thank GOD for sex!

LOVE is the purest manifestation of God. It is unselfish, it is unbiased, it is unblemished, undeniable, unexplainable, unconquerable, it is the very essence of what it is to live, it is GoOD!

Originally posted by CholmondleyWarner
In fact, nothing exists as its all just down to god...

Everything that exists IS God. Why are YOU downing Everything?

Originally posted by CholmondleyWarner
You could just as easily say that the nazis who commited genocide in the death camps of world war 2 did it because god told them to?

God did not create Nazi's Man did. God created Man, Man created NAZI's

With Love,

Your Brother

P.S. Go have a beer with God, why not? I smoke a blunt with him every now and then.

reply to post by kroms33


he my friend is not judging but rather challenging you to judge yourself. self-discernment is a great thing. all men should question themselves and mind their thoughts and motives. for men left to their own ambitions are evil. this is truth and not a judgement call. man seeks self gratification before it seeks the greater good.

peace and love
stun

Originally posted by kroms33
You are judging people who follow certain belief systems - which goes against the teachings of Jesus:

I have judged no one my friend. I have merely presented the information of what is Christs teachings and what are not. Whether or not you follow them or not, I do not know. Judge yourself.

With Love,

Your Brother

reply to post by IAMIAM


i have to congradulate you on the p.s. of that last statment... man that was epic. another star for you

reply to post by stuncrazy



I understand where you are coming from - but in order to write such a thread, he needed to "judge" who is following Christ's teachings and who is not... thus, judging man in itself is in direct contradiction to his teachings.

Originally posted by kroms33
I understand where you are coming from - but in order to write such a thread, he needed to "judge" who is following Christ's teachings and who is not... thus, judging man in itself is in direct contradiction to his teachings.

Again, I have simply said what they are. I am not judging whether you are following them or not.

That is for YOU to judge.

With Love,

Your Brother

reply to post by IAMIAM


welcome to ATS sunday school ! i don't mean to put you down but christianty is responsible for the most religious killings in the world so where do your 'anti christ' views sit with this?

at the end of the day most of us follow the same god and those who don't are neither right or wrong...

Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by IAMIAM

 

Absolutely Christ does not lie.

Really now? How about this one?
Mark 11:24 Jesus promises: "Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours."

In John chapter 14, verses 12 through 14, Jesus tells just how easy prayer can be:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I go to the Father. Whatever you ask in my name, I will do it, that the Father may be glorified in the Son; if you ask anything in my name, I will do it"

Mat 16:27: "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what he has done."

I thought you have to be baptism, and follow Jesus?

Mat 16:28: "I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom."

So some will not see death.

I think one of the most outrageous of his lies was, when he lied that he was going to return the the lifetime of his listeners. 2000 years later, he still has not returned. Is that a lie or what? And there is a lot more:

Lies about the Devil:

“That’s the devil!”

Those three words are Christian's explanation for any and every undesired occurrence in life.

You lost your job?
“That’s the devil!”

You’re feeling sick?
“That’s the devil!”

You’re tempted to sin?
“That’s the devil!”

You were late for church?
“That’s the devil!”

Since my preacher taught us to credit the Devil for so much, it was common to find the Devil playing a central role in our worship services. He preached about him, we talked about him, and we even talked to him (“Satan, the Lord rebuke you!”). On some weeks we would go so far as to sing songs to him (“I command you Satan/in the name of the Lord/to drop your weapons and flee!”). I must admit that I found all of this exciting at the time. Having an enemy to wage war against always gets the blood pumping. But, as exciting as it was, it was still a lie. And it still is.

This relates to the not so peacefull side of Jesus,(666/Mt:10:34-35):
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the Daughter against her Mother, and the Daughter in law against her Mother in law."
(Sounds more like the Anti-Christ)

Other lies told by Christians:

There is no Goddess! God has no wife!

Queen of Heaven (Heb. melekheth ha-sha-mayim). Some controversy surrounds the philology and significance of this title, but it seems best to regard it as the Female Deity to whom, with their families' aid and connivance, Hebrew women made offerings (Jer 7:18; 44:17-25). The most likely identification is with Ashtoreth, Goddess of love and fertility, synonymous with the Assyrian and Babylonian Istar, and the Roman Venus. The ''wailing for Tammuz'' was associated with her cult (Ezek. 8:14). Its ritual was the license and obscenity characteristic of the eastern fertility cults, ever a temptation to the Hebrews, and the chief objective of the prophets' attack on paganism.
(from The Zondervan Pictorial Bible Dictionary)

In prehistoric and early historic periods of human development, religions existed in which people revered their supreme creator as Female.

The Great Goddess, the Divine Ancestress, was worshipped as far back as the Upper Paleolithic about 25,000 BC -- not 7000 BC as had been previously believed by archaeologists and scholars based on archaeological evidence. The last Goddess temples were closed about 500 AD.

Little has been written about the female deities who were worshipped in the most ancient periods of human existence and still today, the material there is has been almost totally ignored.

Most of the information and artifacts concerning the vast female religion, which flourished for thousands of years before the advent of the classical age of Greece, Judaism, Christianity, was dug out of the ground after the Second World War. It is these more recent excavations which have changed our view of our most ancient history. Archaeological evidence proves that the Goddess religion existed and flourished in the Near and Middle East for thousands of years before the arrival of the patriarchal Abraham, first prophet of the male deity Yahweh.

Who was this Goddess? Why had a female, rather than a male, been designated as the supreme deity? How influential and significant was Her worship, and when had it actually begun? The development of the religion of the female deity in this area is intertwined with the earliest beginnings of religion so far discovered anywhere on earth.
The earliest depictions of a Creation Deity was Female. And yet, Christians deny their Great Mother.

You obviously were taught wrong growing up, way too much emphasis was put on rebuking the devil and nearly not enough on the teachings and the word of Christ. Now if you say this and what you say is the truth about how you were taught by your minister, than your minister was way off the mark.

It's true, you can ask whatever you want in prayer, but is it only selfish supplication or is it for someone else? God will give to those as He sees fit. Sometimes it can take years before a result is seen. The reason being there is lessons to learn. People expect God to just produce, that's not how it works. Men get arrogant with their flawed wisdom. God's wisdom is perfect. If you have a child do you give that child anything he or she ask for?
That child will not be truly great full if everything was given to him, it is just human nature to become spoiled.

When you want to blame God for everything, then really all your doing is not being honest with yourself.

I see a very twisted idea of God here, one thing for sure is the only thing about the devil is, he's got you so blind and deceived and you don't even realize it. Hopefully you will soon see that.

Originally posted by gaia.chi.au
reply to post by IAMIAM

 

welcome to ATS sunday school ! i don't mean to put you down but christianty is responsible for the most religious killings in the world so where do your 'anti christ' views sit with this?

at the end of the day most of us follow the same god and those who don't are neither right or wrong...

Man made religion is what killed and tortured many people over centuries, and they would always use God's name or some other gods for their purpose.

The big error that so many doubters like to make is to always have to lay blame and to look with the wrong approach. They get caught up in the lies that the devil likes to string them along with, and because they are unbelievers of the one and only true God, they don't even know what leads them to these conclusions.

And at the end of the day not nearly enough follow the one and only true God.

There has been many anti-Christ through-out the ages, but there is one coming that will be the last to try and destroy the earth and all that inhabits it, and he will be the incarnate of Satan himself, the counterfeit messiah.

An honest man would seek out the truth and humble himself before God to find it.

reply to post by hawaii50th



I don't believe he is deceived at all and if he is it is God's doing and there isn't a thing you or anyone can do about it save pray. There is alot of conjecture here and for a moment i almost got sucked into it. God himself contains GREAT danger...

Maybe, just maybe... The right and the left have come to some disagreement, this is metaphorical of course detailing the need for division due to an unpublished manifesto of endeavor. The lot of you sound like nagging house wives. Leave the son of man to it.

Peace

Originally posted by gaia.chi.au
reply to post by IAMIAM

 

welcome to ATS sunday school ! i don't mean to put you down but christianty is responsible for the most religious killings in the world so where do your 'anti christ' views sit with this?

at the end of the day most of us follow the same god and those who don't are neither right or wrong...

Sad that people think the so called "religious killings" of the past or even murder in the name of God had anything to do with God.

These attrocities of the past we're in the name of mans book.... Man wrote the bible not God.

You can find a hundred examples of garbage in the bible, all written by man.... eg. "stone your wife to death if she cheats"

The only important information in the bible are the few teachings of Christ, and im sure a lot of them were reworded and rewritten to suit whatever the agenda was at the time...

Man doesn't kill in the name of God, he kills for Kings, money, greed, and hatred. The bible has been used for an excuse for killing for milenia.

In a time where church and state were the same thing, how would anyone think it had to do with God

Originally posted by hawaii50th
Man made religion is what killed and tortured many people over centuries,

Jedi have not !

My recent conversion to Jediism arises out of necessity and in times of need...

My previous religion was "Heavy Metal" and though I will carry it with me forever, there comes a time when we must protect justice and resist the dark side of the force.

we must defend the Republic and pave the way for padawan to be...

do not be deceived for Jedi only defend against the dark side of the Force in times of need.

[Thank You Master XYZ] for how could I have been so blind ?

Originally posted by Abovo
reply to post by hawaii50th

 

I don't believe he is deceived at all and if he is it is God's doing and there isn't a thing you or anyone can do about it save pray. There is alot of conjecture here and for a moment i almost got sucked into it. God himself contains GREAT danger...

Maybe, just maybe... The right and the left have come to some disagreement, this is metaphorical of course detailing the need for division due to an unpublished manifesto of endeavor. The lot of you sound like nagging house wives. Leave the son of man to it.

Peace

In the last days many will be deceived and will believe lies rather than truth, the devil has but a short time and he's like a raging lion ready to devour as many as he can.
A Christian is called to stand up for the Lord and if that Christian doesn't than he is not true to the Lord.
Christ will be there on the day of judgment separating the sheep from the goats. This is all scriptural, all you got to do is look it up.

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Lol, thanks, I needed a really good laugh today.

reply to post by Akragon


Oh this is so tiring, so much misconceptions and so much misunderstanding, so much misinterpretation of the bible. It is so obvious now how much people are deceived into believing all the lies of the devil, how they are so caught up. It makes it so easy in this fast pace world that we live in to miss the most important facts, and only grab on to the lies. The fast pace keeps everyone very occupied with the unimportant things and that causes many to not see the truth.

Originally posted by hawaii50th

Originally posted by Abovo
reply to post by hawaii50th

 

I don't believe he is deceived at all and if he is it is God's doing and there isn't a thing you or anyone can do about it save pray. There is alot of conjecture here and for a moment i almost got sucked into it. God himself contains GREAT danger...

Maybe, just maybe... The right and the left have come to some disagreement, this is metaphorical of course detailing the need for division due to an unpublished manifesto of endeavor. The lot of you sound like nagging house wives. Leave the son of man to it.

Peace

In the last days many will be deceived and will believe lies rather than truth, the devil has but a short time and he's like a raging lion ready to devour as many as he can.
A Christian is called to stand up for the Lord and if that Christian doesn't than he is not true to the Lord.
Christ will be there on the day of judgment separating the sheep from the goats. This is all scriptural, all you got to do is look it up.

Agreed about the roaring lion part. What's not agreed is how a message of peace and love could be construed as such? While i think it's a little syrupy, personally, it is essential and necessary. That is the point is it not?

Originally posted by gaia.chi.au
reply to post by IAMIAM

 

welcome to ATS sunday school ! i don't mean to put you down but christianty is responsible for the most religious killings in the world so where do your 'anti christ' views sit with this?

at the end of the day most of us follow the same god and those who don't are neither right or wrong...

I am not a christian, nor do I judge Christians for the actions of others. Let each individuals actions speak for them.

With Love,

Your Brother

reply to post by IAMIAM


Nice OP If by saying Christian I do believe in the bible as the word of God. So by that standard I am a Christian. God bless. GOD IS LOVE

Originally posted by Abovo

Originally posted by hawaii50th

Originally posted by Abovo
reply to post by hawaii50th

 

I don't believe he is deceived at all and if he is it is God's doing and there isn't a thing you or anyone can do about it save pray. There is alot of conjecture here and for a moment i almost got sucked into it. God himself contains GREAT danger...

Maybe, just maybe... The right and the left have come to some disagreement, this is metaphorical of course detailing the need for division due to an unpublished manifesto of endeavor. The lot of you sound like nagging house wives. Leave the son of man to it.

Peace

In the last days many will be deceived and will believe lies rather than truth, the devil has but a short time and he's like a raging lion ready to devour as many as he can.
A Christian is called to stand up for the Lord and if that Christian doesn't than he is not true to the Lord.
Christ will be there on the day of judgment separating the sheep from the goats. This is all scriptural, all you got to do is look it up.

Agreed about the roaring lion part. What's not agreed is how a message of peace and love could be construed as such? While i think it's a little syrupy, personally, it is essential and necessary. That is the point is it not?

If you have children, you love those children, you provide for them, and you also discipline them so they can go on to become good people when they grow up.
It is the same when it comes to God, He loves His creation and His Love is a perfect Love unlike ours and He wants to provide for His creation. But if His creation refuses to listen to Him they choose their own course, He will not interfere in what they choose.
We live in the physical world until death, than we pass on, so our bodies decay, but our souls continue on, and that is what God is concerned with, our souls. He wants our souls to continue and to exist with Him in heaven.
But before we can go to that beautiful place that He has provided for all of us for all eternity, we need to live in this physical existence. The physical life is to prepare us for the eternal life, but we need to follow God and have Christ in our lives to be able to get there.
Satan rebelled against God, Satan was the most beautiful of all the angels in heaven, and his pride got the better of him and he decided to rebel. When an angel rebels that angels punishment is severe and that's because God gave them powers that go way beyond what a human is capable of. There is no second chance for an angel that rebels against God.
After Satan fell, he now turned his attention to all of God's creation, now he wanted to take revenge on God for exiling him out of the heavenly places. Now he was going to try and destroy what God had created, and this is where we are at and has always been from the beginning here on this earth. The real war that has been going on is between God, Satan, and us. It is a spiritual battle for the souls of men and women, Satan wants to take as many souls to hell as he can to spend eternity with him.
And that's just the way it is.

Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by slowisfast
You can absolutely judge one's actions.
Jesus did.

You are not Jesus, he harmed no one.

Judge if you must my friend. Take it from someone who has felt the pain of every little injury he has caused another. You have no idea how your actions affect another. Do you feel the pain you cause another when you do something which harms them? If you do not, it is ok, most do not.

All will eventually though. When you do, then you will know for yourself why you should not judge another. It is wiser to ensure that you have done nothing that warrants anothers judgement. Then you save both of you some pain.

They know not what they do!

With Love,

Your Brother

i'm very aware i'm not Jesus.
neither are you.

judging one's actions is not the same as judging the human.
if Christ is an example to be followed then there should be no issues in taking offense to actions when warranted.
this is not judgment in the same way in which you are speaking of.
serving on jury duty, which is the context of my original comment, is not un-Christ like.
for it's not about judging the heart but the actions based on evidence of a physical act.
you understand the difference.....right?

with love,
your brother