Why do "enviromentalists" ignore the Dust Bowl when talking about human caused ecological disaster

Seriously the Dust Bowl is one of the worst human engineered disasters,ever. Why don't they like talking about it? Or how that problem was ended?

*listens to grass whisper as the wind blows dust past"

reply to post by korathin


What is the dustbowl?

When making a thread, a little information, some pictures and links would be very helpful for those who don't know anything about the subject your talking about.
Threads like yours with only 2 or 3 lines with no research or effort, rarely gain any interest, comments or discussion.

Well with lack of supplied information i can only assume you are talking about Dust bowls as in "massive dust storms due to the erosion of top soil from the lack of proper plowing and over farming/grazing"?

en.wikipedia.org...

It is basically when semi-productive land is turned to desert due to over farming/grazing and improper plowing methods.

When over farming of the great plains reached its peak in the 1920-30s a drought caused the eroded soil to lose its grip and become dust leading to massive dust storms. I guess it's not discussed that much because the problem pretty much solved its self by millions of people migrating from the area and government efforts to educate farmers on plowing methods that conserved the soil.

President Roosevelt ordered the Civilian Conservation Corps to plant a huge belt of more than 200 million trees from Canada to Abilene, Texas to break the wind, hold water in the soil, and hold the soil itself in place. The administration also began to educate farmers on soil conservation and anti-erosion techniques, including crop rotation, strip farming, contour plowing, terracing, and other improved farming practices.[20][21] In 1937, the federal government began an aggressive campaign to encourage Dust Bowlers to adopt planting and plowing methods that conserved the soil. The government paid the reluctant farmers a dollar an acre to practice one of the new methods.

Sure there are areas around the world now that are in danger of this as to why they are not discussed more i would not know
earthobservatory.nasa.gov...

Of course this is all provided on the assumption that this is actually what you are talking about

reply to post by korathin


MisterLondon is right - more info needed.

Maybe start with a description of the American "Breadbasket" and move on to explain how and why the Ogallala Aquifer got depleted, what that means, and what the impacts soon will be.

geeze people, unless your not from the US, you should not need to question what the dust bowl is. If you do please seek out the nearest 5th grade social studies teacher and ask.


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im not from the U.S. i dont have a clue what a dustbowl is...

reply to post by Djdoubt03


This is an international website - not everyone is American.

And speaking of 5th grade, any discussion needs to be based on common, basic information. ...The whole point of starting a thread is to provide the info YOU think is most relevant to discussion, and then go from there.

Why are they ignoring pollution in general?

The seafood has been contaminated with mercury, the air is unbreathable to the point where parts of the country have a "pollution index", nuclear waste is being generated by the ton as a result of nuclear energy, carcinogens have permeated almost every aspect of the environment via plastics and other contaminants.

Yet, the only thing that these people seem to care about is carbon. Why? Because the corporate media said so.

Corporations dont have to stop producing carbon. They just have to purchase carbon credits that will be traded on a new exchange so banksters can increase their profits.

Originally posted by soficrow
reply to post by korathin

 

MisterLondon is right - more info needed.

Maybe start with a description of the American "Breadbasket" and move on to explain how and why the Ogallala Aquifer got depleted, what that means, and what the impacts soon will be.

? This is 6th grade history(that is retaught in high school in more advanced classes). I didn't realize the public educational system is so bad these days.

Anyways en.wikipedia.org... link

But I think the main lesson is how quick nature will let people know they are doing something really really stupid(misuse of land) and how quick things can heal.

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Ehh my bad. Bit of a history geek so didn't realize the international differences.

I'm American, so someone not knowing what the dust bowl is seems like someone not knowing what 9/11 is. I wouldn't imagine an explanation of the events of 9/11 would be needed every time someone brings it up.

On the other hand, like someone else said this isn't a board that has a strictly American audience, and considering the dust bowl didn't really have modern day international implications, I think a little info would have been a good idea.

From Wikipedia

The Dust Bowl, or the Dirty Thirties, was a period of severe dust storms causing major ecological and agricultural damage to American and Canadian prairie lands from 1930 to 1936 (in some areas until 1940). The phenomenon was caused by severe drought coupled with decades of extensive farming without crop rotation, fallow fields, cover crops or other techniques to prevent erosion.[1] Deep plowing of the virgin topsoil of the Great Plains had displaced the natural deep-rooted grasses that normally kept the soil in place and trapped moisture even during periods of drought and high winds.

The unusually wet period, which encouraged increased settlement and cultivation in the Great Plains, ended in 1930. This was the year in which an extended and severe drought began which caused crops to fail, leaving the plowed fields exposed to wind erosion. The fine soil of the Great Plains was easily eroded and carried east by strong continental winds.

On November 11, 1933, a very strong dust storm stripped topsoil from desiccated South Dakota farmlands in just one of a series of bad dust storms that year. Then, beginning on May 9, 1934, a strong two-day dust storm removed massive amounts of Great Plains topsoil in one of the worst such storms of the Dust Bowl. The dust clouds blew all the way to Chicago where dirt fell like snow. Two days later, the same storm reached cities in the east, such as Buffalo, Boston, Cleveland, New York City, and Washington, D.C.[10] That winter (1934–1935), red snow fell on New England.

On April 14, 1935, known as "Black Sunday", twenty of the worst "Black Blizzards" occurred throughout the Dust Bowl, causing extensive damage and turning the day to night; witnesses reported that they could not see five feet in front of them at certain points.

en.wikipedia.org...

There you go.