Alert! Javier Solana's Incredible EU Takeover

Is Javier Solana ushering in the time of the beast? Some believe Solana is the beast himself. Odd thing is that we don't hear much of him in the United States except on the radio program, Politics and Religion, End Times program.
Exactly what is Solana doing? The man has entirely too much power.

Unless he gets reinstated as the "next" EU foreign minister/high representative, his term will be over in under a year. Yeah, he's one of those intelligent guys who aren't savants.

By the way, Mr. Herb Peters has fallen asleep.

[edit on 18-2-2008 by reject]

Ok first I'm glad to see discussion going on about this. But lets try to clear up a little confusion. Solanna and the EU represent the 10 horn beast of both revelation and daniel. But the false prophet being represented by a beast as well means he needs to have his own kingdom as the way we decode prophecy would suggest as in Nebudchanezzars dream. Look closer at the UN and Alliance of Civilizations. They are trying to pass religous legislation that would make it essentially a hate crime to stand up for the fundamental truths, sounds a bit like the actions of Johns second beast. Also look at Tony Blair and the sudden role he has taken within the UN. Third the kingdom of the false prophet as indicated in revelation is in Babylon or modern Iraq. Its interesting to note the USA just finished the largest embassy in the world in Bagdad, with a large section of that promised to the UN. And they say they have no long term plan for the area. Its also important to note that concentration camps are currently being built globaly under the pretext of FEMA and other emergency management agencies. Check youtube and look them up theres plenty of video. Third the issue with the muslims is a distraction. Many reading this are not gonna like this but they are just as much the children of God as christians and jews and I'll show you how.

The jews state to be decendants of Abraham through his son Isaac, Muslims state they are decendantes of Abraham through his son Ishmael. Read the book of Genesis, both are mentioned, despite what either side says both are said to be children of god and blessed. The issue with the temple mount is about to be null and void as Michael and Kirk Douglas just donated 20 Million to build a "museum" that will be an exact replica of the holy of holies. Many have thought the entire temple needed to be rebuilt in order for antichrist to desacrate the temple but the book of Daniel refers to it as the holy of holies, and when john is aked to take measurements of the temple he is allowed to measure the holy of holies then told not to worry about what lies beyond that. This museum if jews end up making sacrifices in it could be what he desacrates. A disagreement between muslims and jews has been exploited so that it caused a huge rift in gods family, mark my words the jews muslims and christians will all be persacuted the same by this evil leader. And as revelation states whoever is against antichrist is saved. By now many must know that the Mark is also close upon us, the mark should be the RFID technology, there are people already taking the chip. Again youtube has videos of people having them inserted.

Also a thing for americans to look for is the rise of the north american union. Its very real I've seen their minted money as well as uniformed officers(youtube). How all of this will unfold and in what order are predetermined but it seems a lot of things John saw are happening under most peoples noses and they don't realize it. Any one who thinks the US government isn't tyed into this should look at how our media has buried what is happeniing over there. Then think about the fact that media outlets are owned by huge conglomorates. Their is no honesty left in them. You hear what is good for their bottom line. People, wtach for the things God has promissed and don't be deceived by the lies people are feeding you.

Not to mention Allah translated into hebrew becomes "L" or the hebrew word for L This was the original word for God. L was his first hebrew name. Just one more instance of consistency. Not to mention the Koran is essentialy the old testament stories told from their point of view. Look at how many different denominations we have due to different beliefs. Muslims and jews suffer from the earliest form of seperatism of gods people, thats it we're not enemies, nor should we be at war with each other. We just have had different relationships with God.

As far as Solana's time running out, one of two things will propably happen. Either he'll make a huge gain in the peace process with Israel and be reappointed to his post or he'll flex recomendation 666 and seize power. An interesting note when translated to hebrew his name in the gematria equals 666 so it literally is the number of his name as john says it will be. I'm going to post the actual translation and gematria equivalent in the next day or so.

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Are you related to Constance Cumby then? I greatly admire her work. I have a dog eared copy of Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow. Her second book has been pretty tricky to get hold of in the past, but I think it is available second hand.

She makes a good point about Javier, but I think he's too old now. I think the ac will come out of a muslim europe. The idea of a great miracle working caliph as the antichrist makes a lot of sense. Such a figure could unite all the former territories of the Roman empire on both sides of the Mediterranean, especially if the Pope gives him his blessings, as the Bible says he must. The beast rides the whore after all until he devours her.

His age doesn't matter if he gets results no one has gotten in the past. You have to be careful where you look. Daniel states the beast comes from the sea. The sea being the mediteranean, so he needs to be from a country boardering the med. Solana also fits this criteria, I believe he is our man. No way to know for sure until he desacrates the temple.

Truthfully I haven't read any of her stuff but I know of her work. She came to her conclusions the same way I have mine, She read the prophecies expected to see them in a most literal way and when it started happening she was looking for it. Many christians want to over analize the prophecies, when instead we should consider that if any generation was meant to understand them its this one, so therefore I have to believe things will happen directly the way the scriptures say they will.

Ok as promised here it is Javier or Chav-ee-yer is kaf vav yod resh
kaf=20
vav=6
yod=10
resh=200
so Javier in hebrew =236
now lets look at solana or so-lan-na is sin/shin lamed nun nun
sin/shin=300
lamed=30
nun=50
nun=50
so solana in hebrew =430 so javier plus solana =666

Originally posted by jdl79
Many christians want to over analize the prophecies, when instead we should consider that if any generation was meant to understand them its this one, so therefore I have to believe things will happen directly the way the scriptures say they will.

Well I agree with you, but I see Javier as more of a tool or even a prototype of the antichrist (like Hitler) but not the real thing. It is actually quite amazing to see how closely the prophecies of the Imam Mahdi (Muslim Messiah) fit the prophecies of the antichrist. Moreover given europe's demographic trends, the Muslim religion is likely to become dominant there in the future, not secular humanism and not paganism as we might have thought.

For an in depth analysis of the Muslim antichrist check this out.
answering-islam.org.uk...

This would also be a quite literal fulfillment of Daniel and Revelations.

Okay lets look at the facts, Solana is a one of a kind leader who accomplishes lofty tasks with mere words and through peace. The bible states ac will be the first of his kind in this aspect. While I do believe there is a possibility Solana may just be warming the seat for ac, I highly doubt it. The doubts about this man are exactly the types of things I would expect to see if he was the ac. He has way too many things lining up against him prophetical wise for me to even consider he may not be. Right now I am consistently watching all the EU does almost expecting something to come up to disqualify them, but after several years now all that has happened is they have made a stronger case that they could be ac kingdom and Javier could be the guy. He appeals to every one, no one dislikes him, if there is an impossible situation the Eu needs handled they send him and miraculously it gets done with everyone ending up glad it did. Of course the muslim prophecies eerily match, so do the jewish ones pertaining to christ. But of course the jews don't believe Jesus was messiah so when ac steps up a lot will want to follow him. Just the same as the bhuddists are looking for matreya. The muslims are looking for dajal also, which is there version of ac. Now a lot of people want to believe islam and the muslims are evil, this is a notion that has been perpatrted to distract people from the truth. Which is we are all children of god. Muslims and jews are the same line of people from a faith standpoint. Muslims are the other branch of Abrahams family tree through his son Ishmael, where the jews come from Isaac. Don't believe me read the Koran then read Genesis. Genesis talks of both bloodlines and even goes so far as to say both bloodlines are blessed just in different ways. Now if persacution of christians is the reason you feel this way, then how do you explain catholics who used to persacute believers for reading the bible? Just because there are a few extremists doesn't make the whole lot bad. The governments have perpatrated this lie to its fullest extent so they could continue to wage their oil war. Most modern christians are blind to this because they trust the tainted medias accounts as well as what the liars in washington have spewed out to them, with out the benefit of even looking at the true evidence. Christ said to love thy enemy, so even if these lies were true, wheres the love?

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I am not dogmatic about the exact details of the end times, because you can't be sure, even the devil doesn't know. Jesus didn't know the exact dates when he was on this earth, only the Father knows.

Thus I believe that the devil has many irons in the fire, Javier is just one of them. If Solano is your man he'd better move soon because he's getting old and is potentially out of touch with the demographic changes happening in europe.

It's those demographic changes that make me believe that the ac could well be a muslim and probably the mahdi. While God did bless Ishmael and made many great nations from him, the Koran is a clear demonic forgery. ie it calls for the death of unbelievers and refers to jews as pigs. The muslims have a hatred for Jews and christians and this is consistent with the behavior of the ac. Solano seems to be cut more in the mold of a secular humanist, or perhaps a new ager.

Does Solano have a religion? Has he demonstrated any miraculous powers? We shall see. If he does start doing this, then I will be inclined to agree with you. If the Lord should tarry, then a Muslim ac will become more likely.

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Solanas only affiliation with any organization out side political is the club of rome. This clubs creed is basicly that our future is undetermined that we make it ourselves. They also state we should not look to God for answers that we are all gods in our own right. His age is irrelavent so far, all he needs is 7 years which we may already be in as we speak. Actually the one that does great wonders is the false prophet, not the son of perdition or antichrist. While he does claim to be like God to the point of exalting himself as a god, the scriptures reffer to his prophet doing great signs from the power given him by the ac. Only God knows who this man is, my point is Solana is looks suspicious and close attention should be paid to him. If he breaks his covenant with Israel and begins exalting himself than the answer is there. How ever if he is not than he certainly is laying the ground work. As a diplomat he has accomplished things most thought were impossible and he has done it peacefully, he also has the ability to seize the reigns of europe whenever he chooses and declare war against whom ever he sees fit. The ten nation WEU has given him this ability willingly, if tommorow he staked claim to leadership of europe while usurping 3 of the ten it would not surprise me. How ever his position could be occupied later by the ac, this is possible. This alliance with Solana as their diplomat has already made strong a 7 year covenant with many including Israel. This is what is known as the Barcelona Process which went into effect Jan. 07. This agreement made strong a previous pact known as the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership. Daniel states he will make strong an agreement, not just make an agreement. This may not be what the prophecy reffer to but I feel is worth watching just to be safe.

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Interesting point. However let's not forget that Daniel 26 and parts of Rev. and 2nd Thess. clearly associate the 7 year agreement with the sacrifices and oblations at the temple in Jerusalem. Solano would have to cut a deal with Israel to rebuild the temple and let the temple worship begin again. If he does that, hen look out world!

Imagine though a european muslim caliph who claims to be the mahdi and then offers a stunning peace agreement with Israel that allows them to rebuild the temple. If he's recognized as the Mahdi the muslims would have to go along with it. My suspicion is that this could only happen after a nasty mideast war involving Israel and her neighbors.

I first read about Javier Solana a few years and his powers over the EU. Odd thing is that you never hear his name mentioned on the news. The only place I have ever heard anything about him is on a radio program, Politics and Religion! They are keeping tabs on Javier. Some believe he is the beast, some believe he's being used to usher in the beast. I find it odd that I've never heard of him in the drive-by media.

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Solana is actually neck deep in the annapolis summit, and thus far he is the one making actual progress. Also note Daniel does not stae the covenant will neccesarily involve the temple, the covenant and the abomination are refferenced seperately, though are brought on by the same leader. Daniel 9:27 "That leader will make firm an agreement with many for seven years. He will stop the offerings and sacrifices after three and one half years. A destroyer will do terrible things until the ordered end comes to the destroyed city. Note there is no mention of the temple with the covenant, they are seperate things. Solana and the EU have already made firm an agreement with many. Its called the barcelona process and it went into effect Jan 07. This agreement affirmed or made strong a previous agreement. This could qualify as the agreement mentioned in Daniel, you can see the agreement and read its history at www.fulfilledprophecy.com. All that is needed for this prophecy to be completely fulfilled is the stopping of the sacrifices and offerings, which if this is the said agreement should happen in 2010. The abomination is this leaders revealing to the world, so it stands to reason that the agreement could go unnoticed, I even believe by stating the abomination would be his unveiling prophecy is saying it will go unnoticed by most. This agreement is not the only way the EU and Solana could fulfill the prophecies. I urge you to check out the site and read through all the info they have posted, note that I saw things very similar to the way you do before I started watching this revived roman empire, which in itself is a huge clue. Look at Nebudchanezzars statue. The final kingdom was feet of iron and clay, iron had been used previously to symbolize rome in the legs. The clay could be the earthen nations that did not belong to the first rome. Also note Daniel states the iron and clay don't adhere, just as the EU is one entity yet the nations remain seperate. The feet have ten toes, which are at the front of this final kingdom. The beast of revelation has ten horns that represent kings. The EU has ten nations that are the only ones in the union allowed full membership. They also have full control of the EU's military as well as all the power of NATO. Solana at any time could seize complete control of this union, all he would have to do is declare an emergency, the only other office that he would answer to he occupies. The legislation that created his post is Article 666, the legislation he could use to seize control is Recommendation 666. In other words twice he has been given power by this number, add this to the gematria translation I already posted and you can see why he is a man to watch. Both Daniel and rev. state when he seizes the reigns of the beast he will subdue three of the ten, three current rulers are opposing many of Solanas decisions. Also notice while the ten are at the fore front they are not the only parts of either the feet or the beast, just as the EU has other countries involved that are not prominat members. Its also important to know he has passed legislation already that says all decisions he makes do not need to go before the parliment or even be revealed to the public, only if he says so does anyone find out. Please go to the site read everything you can, there is a book you can read for free that outlines much of this, they also have all news and political documents to back all of this up, so you can read them first hand.

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One other thing to remember is before the Mahdi, the muslims believe the Dajal or false messiah must come. These prophecies directly reflect the biblical prophecies in every way. I believe when all of this comes to a head we will find Jews, Christians and Muslims are on the same side. Now I don't mean the sects of any religion that have hijacked the faiths, but the ones who adhere to Gods true teachings. After all even Genesis states the jews and muslims are both decendants of Abraham that God would continue to bless through the generations. While christians have clung to the true messiah. This is not to say that even to this day there are those amongst all three faiths that do their own will not Gods and have led many away from the lords true calling. Its also important to note even our scriptures state many will see this man as messiah, I believe many christians will believe he is Christ, many jews will think he is messiah, and many muslims will think he is Mahdi only to realize they have misplaced their faith. Also of note the bhuddists await whom they call Matreya, and their prophecies parrallel in a way that I could see many of them to be swayed to follow this man.

Originally posted by Ragdollcat
I first read about Javier Solana a few years and his powers over the EU. Odd thing is that you never hear his name mentioned on the news. The only place I have ever heard anything about him is on a radio program, Politics and Religion! They are keeping tabs on Javier. Some believe he is the beast, some believe he's being used to usher in the beast. I find it odd that I've never heard of him in the drive-by media.

If he is the one we are told to watch for it would make sense that thus far he has flown under the radar, the bible states he will come to the forefront suddenly. I believe the reason is there are enough who know the prophecy to try to stand against him before he gains total control, there fore his rise would need to be secretive. You can't trust the media any how as it is completely slanted to the atheistic world we live in. It quit being objective the moment men like Rupert Murddock and their corporations seized control of them. These companies are designed to keep you in the dark, I mean seriously when was the last time you actually heard any real news aside from a disaster or a fluff piece from outside the USA? Just look at the slant that has been put on the current election process, it has been designed to get the results those with the real control want.

One more thing I would like you guys to check out, go to youtube and look up FEMA camps. There are videos posted of what are obviously concentration camps being built under the guise of FEMA. This could all tie in with the USA and UN with the Alliance of Civilizations. So if the camps are already being built then ask yourselves, how much is the governments of the world willingly preparing without us knowing? Please any one who checks out youtube let me know your thoughts.

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The reason why temple worship is associated with the final week of years is found in the timetable put forth by the angel in Dan. 9.

In the middle of the 'seven' [j] he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. [k] " [l]

The abomination of desolation is a temple idol. It had a precursor in the actions of Antiochus Epiphanes who set up a temple of zeus in the Jewish temple and offered up pigs for sacrifice.