My latest oobe

Quite a short one considering the length of ones I have had in the past but never mind. I did my usual method of waking up in the wee hours and staying awake for about 15 mins, then going back to that semi - sleep state, I concentrated and relaxed, got my vibe thing on and popped right out. I figured I would go for a wander around my town and see how things were going to be looking this time around (everything always looks differant). Well to be honest Im not even sure I was in the same town, everywhere was huge factorys and industrial complexes but the strange thing was there was absolutly no-one or nothing around. Usually in my oobe's I encounter some form of astral being but there was nothing around. I also remember feeling a strong sense of abandonment to the place. I know time travel is apparantly possible in the astral (I seen my whole street in ruins in another a.p) I wonder if I had gone forwards in time to when all the surrounding area had been redeveloped? Anyway I had a float around looking at the tall, grey factorys and industrial buildings which seemed to be everywhere, and I soon started to become bored so i figured I may as well have a conversation with my guide (jared) but when I called for him he never came, I guess he was busy lol anyway that got me a little frustrated so I decided that I would leave this place and have some fun and change the landscape around me, which would not work for some reason, no matter how hard I tried so I just figured sod it! and went back to my body and woke up.

awesome! how do you do this....i wanna try it....and can you visit anywhere you want....im in st. Louis, could i go visit my friend in ATL georgia????

practice practice practice and meditation. You wouldnt be able to visit your freind as you project to a whole new level of existence known as the astral plain. Although it may be possible if you learn't etheric projection which is where you stay at a lower vibration and closer to the eath plain, but the cances of them seeing you are so small it wouldnt really be worth trying. Etheric projection is quite hard.

Heres some links for ya

www.astralvoyage.com
www.astralsociety.com

thanks. I went to the sites and still dont know/am not able to find HOW exactly you go about this....it seems interesting. Also, on one of the sites, it mentioned that you dont know what the obe was about, yet you remember....How did you remember, or is that site just wrong in one way or another?? Thanks again1

~Boo Baa

Thanks for those links. I've been trying to achieve this for years, without any luck. I'm so jealous.

I'll keep trying.

However, I'm not convinced it's really a person leaving thier body, and maybe it's just a wierd altered state where you are in control of the dream.

Does anybody who experiences an oobe know for sure it's you moving around in reality, and not that it's all in your mind? Do you see or hear something happen while it's going on that has actually happened when you wake up/return to your body? I was able to control my dreams as a teenager, and would sleep for 18 hours a day to get to a wierd state where I was in control. I wonder if this is similar to an oobe as I have described above.


[edit on 14-7-2004 by Zzub]

Well most people who AP describe it as being much more vivid than waking life. As if waking life is a dream compared to an AP.

I can concur with that. Obe's for me (not that I have many)a much clearer and lucid than reality.

When you become aware in a dream you realise you are dreaming, when you OBE, you know you're not dreaming, just like you know you're not dreaming right now

This topic is discussed at great lengths on the site. Go ahead and search it, because many members have some wonderful advice and tips to help you learn AP, contacting your higher self, and reaching greater awareness.

Thanks for answering my question, TheBandit795 and Faceless. I guess there is another level of being above the one I used to get into.

I will keep trying. I'd really like to experience that.

To be honest, I'm still not convinced it's anything more than a mental state. I'd need somebody to be able to describe something they could only know if they had actualy been out of thier body, like some detail about something that happened elsewhere at the time that could be verified. Does your experience offer any 'proof' that it is real? I ask this from a positive point of view, I'm not trying to question your honesty here in the slightest, I ask this because I took acid once a long time ago, and I really had some vivid visions that looked hyper-real, which is what you guys describe. Couldn't it just be some amazingly rare, hard to reach mental state that only a few people can access, due to different wiring of our brains?

Let me ask you another question. Are any of the people who experience this of a scienfitic nature, or are you guys more spiritual? I mean no offense, I ask this question in all honesty, because I have an (almost) purely scienfitic mind, and I don't belive in god as it is thought of in our religions. I wonder if my mind stops me from having anything 'paranormal' or spiritual happen to me, as that could damage my core beliefs?

Too many questions, I know, sorry about that. I wish I could talk to you guys face to face, as I know nobody personally who has experienced this, and I could ask questions for hours about it.


xxKrisxx, I appreciate the advice, but I do read every one of the posts about this, as it is something that's always interested me. I used to have the ability to control my dreams, and go back into them at will. Sadly, this power has been lost since I was about 20. I always wondered if an oobe is an extension of this, or if it is something completely different. If I ever find out, I'll be sure to post it here.

Zzub,

Here is a story about a scientist who tried to oobe and got it.

www.issc-taste.org...

Thanks for posting that link. It gives me hope

I am not a spiritual person--That is until I had an OOBE. I do not follow any organized religion, nor have I ever. My educational backround is based almost strictly in math science.

Though My views on the world were from a completely scientific POV, I searched my entire life for proof of supernatural thru experimentation--I have not found proof of the paranormal.

I HAVE found evidence of extrordinarily high perception and awareness. I have experienced profound awareness. You ARE capable of these experiences, as everyone is.

I believe it is a science of the mind. I don't believe you "visit" the astral plane..I believe it visits you. I feel this "place" is within you, and you can access it thru a structured series of steps.

I believe the magic of it is: This place is vast, it is all that was is and ever will be and it is all passed down thru DNA. The collective conciousness lies here and this is how knowlege was attained before organized learning facilities were in place. Knowlege jumped continents thru this method of tapping into the Collective Conciousness. We are hard wired with this tool.

The "place" you know well but are not naturally aware of it. There is a small window thru which you must enter during a short durational state of being.

Finding this "point of access" is tricky but people seems to have their own wonderful way.

Try the penny trick, it works:
Lay comfortably and meditate. Try not to think..you can do this by having your eyes closed, but attempt to see as far as you possibly can without squinting or using facial muscles, just your mind. Act as though you were peering thru the darkness to a distant place...focus on the distant place and do not strain.
Hold your arm over the bed with your hand hanging over the edge holding a penny. When the penny falls from your finger tips, you probably just dozed.
THAT is the moment you are looking for
This moment you must try to maintain awareness and elongate it without waking up.
This is when you can get out. feel the vibrations and use them to seperate.

This is MY opinion of the astral plane. I believe many things you meet up with are parts of your own psyche. Demons are your own and not to be feared but confronted. This IS MY opinion. Im not suggesting anyone to do what I do. Others with a spiritual backround think much differently than I on this subject and I respect that.

Kris

the only oobe if i can call it that happened to me when i was younger (before age 10 im quite positive). whenever i fell ill (with a fever) as a young child i would always "dream" that i was flying around my room, i would swim in the air from one corner to the other. it was quite a breathtaking experience.

unfortunately it only happened when i fell ill and is one of the few memories of my childhood dreams that i still recall today. it has not happened to me since, i wonder if i can get it to happen again...

When APing your consiousness IS outside you physical body. Very easy to prove, just go near someone you know, hear what they are talking about, then ask them to confirm it.

If nothing looks like it should then you physical mind has begun dreaming and in influencing you perception. When this happens dont trust anything to be real.

I do think scientifically, I don't believe in God (not any religious Gods anyway). I don't even call Chakras by that name, I call them energy centers, because that's what they are, same goes for anything else (like Dantinis/storage centers).

Originally posted by agent
the only oobe if i can call it that happened to me when i was younger (before age 10 im quite positive). whenever i fell ill (with a fever) as a young child i would always "dream" that i was flying around my room, i would swim in the air from one corner to the other. it was quite a breathtaking experience.

unfortunately it only happened when i fell ill and is one of the few memories of my childhood dreams that i still recall today. it has not happened to me since, i wonder if i can get it to happen again...

funnliy enough its supposed to be easier to oobe when your ill. Apparantly its because the physical bodys hold over your spiritual body is weakened by the illness.

ok ok ok....so let me see if this is how it works. You go to sleep, then you wake up for about 15 and then instead of going back asleep, you concentrate on your body falling asleep, but your mind not? That is what i gathered

how does one go about aquiring the services of an OOBE guide of assistant for this sort of thing?

You probably already have one. If you don't, you just request for one that of course has good intentions.

I think i actualy magaed to have a lucid dream for maby about 10 secs or so it was cool

OBE also sounds cool and i have been trying it (but not as much as lucidity)

If you could do both wouldnt you get mixed up possibly?

I was also wondering if while having an OOBE you can pull other peoples "Souls" out and they would join you?