Egyptian Police Van Slams Into Crowd [VIDEO] *warning graphic* plus an "ambulance"

reply to post by zroth


Its not weird at all . I have been following this story in detail since it broke, and apparantly yesterday the internet had been restored, and partial access to the phone network was available. Besides which, there are plenty of ways it could have been handled. It could have been recorded and then passed to someone who was leaving the country and uploaded at first contact with the net, or it could have been done on a satellite link up for all we know.
There are ways round a localised shut down of the net. Silence is hard to achieve when the methods speak so loudly of ones intent.

Sickening, doesn't look good for the guy in the second video. His pelvis looks completely crushed.

I think it's our duty to share this. I'm off to facebook.

Originally posted by TrueBrit
reply to post by zroth

 

Silence is hard to achieve when the methods speak so loudly of ones intent.

Nice. That is a quote to save.

Good man!

reply to post by WhizKidENT


I have since fixed the link.

Sorry about that

reply to post by vermonster


The police van i agree with you more or less... but with regard to the ambulance drivers, i actually feel sorry for them, to play devils advocate for a moment, how would you feel if someone in your family were suffering and dying and the ambulance that you had called for couldn't get through due to what are essentially illegal protests, I know how i would feel.

I must also point out that whilst i just stated the protests are illegal, i support them fully.

That's a firetruck, by the way. Not that it matters.

Also looks like the guy just hit a 90 degree turn at a very high speed, skidded all over the place, and hit some people he might have not even seen or meant to hit. It's a firetruck, it's extremely hard to control.

Why are we so quick to judge? The guy in that firetruck must be very tired having worked non stop the past few days preventing people's houses from burning down, must be rushing to risk his life in another fire, and on the way he takes a sharp turn and runs into some protesters...

Let's not be so quick to judge.

Originally posted by lammypie999
reply to post by vermonster

 

The police van i agree with you more or less... but with regard to the ambulance drivers, i actually feel sorry for them, to play devils advocate for a moment, how would you feel if someone in your family were suffering and dying and the ambulance that you had called for couldn't get through due to what are essentially illegal protests, I know how i would feel.

Um.

So you justify the killing of someone to save someone else?

It's not like the "ambulance" slowed down even a tad bit or blew its horn.

The poor fella it hit had his back to it for christ sake.

bring this to canada and the us and maybe the world will change.
maybe.

Originally posted by Eliad
That's a firetruck, by the way. Not that it matters.

Also looks like the guy just hit a 90 degree turn at a very high speed, skidded all over the place, and hit some people he might have not even seen or meant to hit. It's a firetruck, it's extremely hard to control.

Why are we so quick to judge? The guy in that firetruck must be very tired having worked non stop the past few days preventing people's houses from burning down, must be rushing to risk his life in another fire, and on the way he takes a sharp turn and runs into some protesters...

Let's not be so quick to judge.

That is all speculation although it sounds really nice.....my heart goes out to that poor poor hard working driver.....not.

I see you are in isreal. What is the isreali mainstream media outlets saying about this revolution taking place in egypt?

reply to post by vermonster


Mostly support, some concern over the future of Egypt what with the peace process and the Muslim brotherhood and all that, but mostly support.

At any rate- It's a firetruck, it skidded, and it took a sharp turn at a very high speed, those aren't speculations, you can clearly see it. The rest is up to you, I'm not trying to defend anyone or anything, I'm just pointing out a few details. I just don't see why a firetruck driver or an ambulance driver would want to run over anyone.. Aren't they all on the same side?

reply to post by Eliad


I have heard a lot of reports of looters being caught with police IDs so it would not surprise me if some other hired goons were just driving around in fire-trucks and police vans running folks over on purpose.

To those of you defending the drivers of these vehicles: They are in control of their lives! They are CHOOSING this path. (no pun intended) They could easily refuse to do certain things. Including killing people with the vehicles they are driving!! They intentionally hurt people in those videos. It's sick! It's not human!

Granted, and this is pure speculation at best, but if they ARE emergency workers who have worked endlessly for days, and are indeed tired... they could still avoid taking human lives with those machines.

Stop defending this sick action. I can't believe anyone even would.

To answer those of you who spoke of this taking place in America: If it does...... better stay far from the roads apparently.

Originally posted by Vandalour
In the second video they should not lift the body of the man just run over up... they could make it worse

Personaly I dont blame the ones driving... I would not want to stop among those monkeys, they would prob kill or torture them

The first thing in first aid is surveying the area for immediate danger, and getting as safe as possible before administering aid.

I don't think they had enough time to build a field stretcher and stabalize him before having to worrying about the next crazy vehicle comming down the middle of the street on the poor guy and others helping him.

Even if they jogged him all the way to the hospital, that was as good as they could do at the time. Wrong or right at least they are trying to help him.

Hey everybody there is a new one on youtube that I thought I would post. It is very disturbing but I can't see it being on youtube for too long so I wanted to make sure people get a chance to see it. I've never posted a link for anything so I hope I did it right...

www.youtube.com...

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**VERY DISTURBING**


From what I could see, people were throwing molotovs in the vans direction and crowding around it. I don't have an opinion on this video. But I feel very sad for the victims and their families.

reply to post by wayno


They are beating and attacking foreign media for no reason, I don't see why they'd not attack and beat people they see as government employed.

First off.
My thoughts are going out to anyone and everyone affected by the events unfolding.
It doesn't matter who you are or which side you support.
Our brothers and sisters are dying and it breaks my heart.

Second.
The driver and other personnel aboard were most likely rushing somewhere to save lives. Unfortunately we are taking both the videos out of context. We don't know the situation surrounding either of the vehicles and it's possible that they were going somewhere with the potential for even more loss of life. It's also possible that both vehicles after hitting the bystanders Radioed for help from an ambulance, someone better equipped to handle the situation. Undoubtedly resources are probably stretched thin. Please understand that I'm not trying to justify anyone's actions simply pointing out that we don't have all the facts. I do feel the police van could have avoided the situation and it did seem intentional. While the firetruck looked like it took a corner too fast and lost control.

Originally posted by vermonster
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Originally posted by Vandalour
In the second video they should not lift the body of the man just run over up... they could make it worse

I agree. I feel that is common sense where I'm from thanks to my education. I've only heard great things about the current egyptian government, I bet they divert tons of cash to public education.

It is usually the case to not move suspected victims of a spinal injury, it's very easy to cause even more damage. However in a case like this, where leaving him in the road leaves the risk of getting hit by other vehicles, it's best to move him and risk further spinal injury rather than leaving him the road.

reply to post by EagleTalonZ


All I'm saying is that the facts I'm pointing out to might indicate that this has been an accident, why must everyone be so damn difficult about it?


reply to post by fasteronfire


What are the odds that anyone of them knows anything about spinal injuries? They saw an injured person, they picked him up, simple as that, not a thought beyond that went through their heads, let's face it...

this is horrific, what the hell is goin on there that we dont know. i found the clip from cnn check it out

this is very disturbing to sit there and watch the chaos thats unfolding before our eyes. egypt will never be the same


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