Coast-to-Coast AM is fueling vaccine paranoia tonight.

Originally posted by flightsuit
1998 study linking autism to vaccines turns out to be a huge fraud

Another Snip repeating everything they hear/read/see because they heard/read/saw it on the electronic box closest to them, while claiming anyone on the other side of the argument is some kind of nutjob and "just following some trend..."

Originally posted by alaskan
Maybe you guys should listen to the man himself?
If you actually look at both sides of the story it's blatantly obvious that someone's just trying to make an example out of him.

Interview from yesterday...

[Mod Edit - snipped name calling]

reply to post by flightsuit


If you're gonna post propaganda, at least *try* to be fair, and post the more recent research mate.

Vaccines are generally poison. There are a few, a very small number of vaccines that do help people, but statistically speaking, *ALL* childhood diseases such as mumps, rubella, scarlet fever, pertussis, measles and so on, were on a *rapid* decline before routine vaccinations were even introduced.

Once they became the norm in Western countries, the diseases started a resurgence. The VAST majority of those who contract one of these diseases, are those that have been *vaccinated* against them!

In regards to the pro Pharma propaganda against Dr. Wakefield, you've posted in support of the corrupt pharma companies, those reading may be interested in this...

Scientists fear MMR link to autism

www.dailymail.co.uk...

New American research shows that there could be a link between the controversial MMR triple vaccine and autism and bowel disease in children. The study appears to confirm the findings of British doctor Andrew Wakefield, who caused a storm in 1998 by suggesting a possible link.

Now a team from the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in North Carolina are examining 275 children with regressive autism and bowel disease - and of the 82 tested so far, 70 prove positive for the measles virus.

Last night the team's leader, Dr Stephen Walker, said: 'Of the handful of results we have in so far, all are vaccine strain and none are wild measles. 'This research proves that in the gastrointestinal tract of a number of children who have been diagnosed with regressive autism, there is evidence of measles virus. 'What it means is that the study done earlier by Dr Wakefield and published in 1998 is correct.

That study didn’t draw any conclusions about specifically what it means to find measles virus in the gut, but the implication is it may be coming from the MMR vaccine. If that’s the case, and this live virus is residing in the gastrointestinal tract of some children, and then they have GI inflammation and other problems, it may be related to the MMR.'

Now, go to google...type in 'US mmr research results link to autism' or similar search terms, and just take a look at the first handful of results...basically, the majority of the links are titles 'Wakefield Fraud' or 'Research clears MMR' or 'Wakefield fixed the data'...all BS crap, intended to persuade parents to go and have the poison pumped into their kids.

Money, it's all about money and nothing else.

I can show you PP slides, that list all incidences of disease and the statistics resulting, by country demographics, age and vaccinated Vs. Unvaccinated, going back over the last century. These statistics were obtained from the worlds most prestigious medical organisations, CDC, BMJ, office of national statistics and so on...none of the data comes from sources like 'Sasha' or 'beforeitisnews' or similar untrusted sites.

And all the statistics point to a massive and sustained fraud by big Pharma and Western governments, since the 60's, which is obviously still on-going.

We all would love to think our representatives and medical establishments would naturally have only our best interests at heart, and wouldn't dream putting profit before innocent people...but the real shocking and sad fact is, the published statistical data and other evidence doesn't bear this idealistic and naive point of view out. The opposite appears to be the case.

Money and profit is the motivational factor here, nothing else.

But, by all means, if you feel you and your family are perfectly safe having muck thrust into you collective bloodstreams, go right ahead...the shareholders will thanks you for it.

Remember, there is *always* two sides to a story. If all profit was removed from medicine, vaccinations wouldn't last five minutes, all would be phased out.

Originally posted by flightsuit

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
IT is is MY body come and try to forceully vaccinate me see what happens !
IM not your slave and you will not perform eugenics on me and my family .
All those using peer pressure to intimidate people to have vaccines MIND YOUR BUSINESS !
You made your choice now respect mine !

Do you understand that your irresponsibility might kill somebody if they have a compromised immune system or are elderly or a child or asthmatic and you pass the flu to them?

Your right to do your own thing ends when it jeopardizes the lives of the people around you.

With or without the shot, you are still a host for the virus/disease. So with ore without the shot, you still transmit
I am sure i read this somewhere. So it is not irresponsible in my eyes/ and the facts

Can a person still be a carrier even after getting the H1N1 vaccine? Yes, the H1N1 vaccine does not cure the sickness. The point of a vaccine is to give your body a small dose of the bacteria, so that your body knows how to defend it, if you ever do become infected by... Read more: wiki.answers.com...

Originally posted by TribeOfManyColours

Can a person still be a carrier even after getting the H1N1 vaccine? Yes, the H1N1 vaccine does not cure the sickness. The point of a vaccine is to give your body a small dose of the bacteria, so that your body knows how to defend it, if you ever do become infected by... Read more: wiki.answers.com...

It's not a bacterium, it's a virus.

Two completely different organisms.

Oh yeah, by the way...going outside in the cold with wet hair will *not* give you a cold...a cold is caused by a virus, not wet hair...although you may get a 'chill', you won't get a cold.

(had to type that out, you'd be amazed at how many people think you can catch a cold by going out wet!)

you guys wait and see, soon enough theyll make vaccines mandatory and anyone who refuses will be labelled a terrorist, a threat .mark my words.

reply to post by spikey


Per my earlier post, the CDC and a lot of people with Dr. in front of their name have provided a mountain of evidence in peer reviewed medical journals that contradicts most of the information in your post.

Would you mind sourcing your information beyond the Daily Mail, particularly these tidbits...?

Vaccines are generally poison. There are a few, a very small number of vaccines that do help people, but statistically speaking, *ALL* childhood diseases such as mumps, rubella, scarlet fever, pertussis, measles and so on, were on a *rapid* decline before routine vaccinations were even introduced.

Once they became the norm in Western countries, the diseases started a resurgence. The VAST majority of those who contract one of these diseases, are those that have been *vaccinated* against them!

I can show you PP slides, that list all incidences of disease and the statistics resulting, by country demographics, age and vaccinated Vs. Unvaccinated, going back over the last century. These statistics were obtained from the worlds most prestigious medical organisations, CDC, BMJ, office of national statistics and so on...none of the data comes from sources like 'Sasha' or 'beforeitisnews' or similar untrusted sites.

We all would love to think our representatives and medical establishments would naturally have only our best interests at heart, and wouldn't dream putting profit before innocent people...but the real shocking and sad fact is, the published statistical data and other evidence doesn't bear this idealistic and naive point of view out. The opposite appears to be the case.

Originally posted by FalselyFlagged

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Even if Vaccines work, they are bad for the human race.

Shouldn't we evolve natural defenses to nature?

If we become reliant on things like this, the moment that the shipments get cut off, we are going to go extinct.

By that time, the common cold will probably kill us we will have weakened ourselves so much by using crutches like these.

For thousands of years, somehow the human race survived without any of this.

Explain that irony.

Sounds a lot like you're advocating eugenics to me. I guess what do you expect from Muzzleflash...

no dude, the Nazis with the eugenics agenda are the ones pushing these vaccines
which have never undergone clinical trials "cause it would be immoral/unethical" to do so, yet it isn't immoral to inject this stuff into millions of human beings[the real clinical trials IMO, just read any good book describing the experiments on humans in nazi germany and the good ol' USA for more examples of Bizzaro science]

reply to post by flightsuit


Thanx for that !
So your telling me to take a man made vaccine to ensure i dont get a manmade disease ?
The health care system of the western world is a scam .
I repeat ! 33 years of NO man made "medicine" and 0 hospital visits .
The FACTS speak for themselves .

Originally posted by flightsuit
I wonder how many people will get sick or die because of tonight's show?

Let me take a stab in the dark and say you don't know what a vaccine is, what is in a vaccine, how vaccines work or what site you are even on?

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Bush Asks Court To Seal MMR Vaccine Records

what did bush and his admin know about vaccines that you apparently don't

Vaccination Myths

Jonas Salk, inventor of the IPV, testified before a Senate subcommittee that nearly all polio outbreaks since 1961 were caused by the oral polio vaccine. At a workshop on polio vaccines sponsored by the Institute of Medicine and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Samuel Katz of Duke University cited the estimated 8-10 annual U.S. cases of vaccine-associated paralytic polio (VAPP) in people who have taken the oral polio vaccine, and the [four year] absence of wild polio from the western

Polio Was NOT Eradicated By The Vaccine

No one realizes that at the same time polio cases began to wane, the first world was improving sewage and water systems. I would liken the reduction in cases to improved potent water supplies and to improved sewage treatment. I remember in the early 1950's the city of Yonkers, NY came to the suburb of Yonkers, Sherwood Park, east yonkers and actually required us to hook up to the sewer system. At that time our home was using a cess pool and well water. Many homes, mostly older, in my area used the cess pool and well water systems. Polio is actually spread via feces/oral route. I would wager that President Roosevelt got his polio swimming in the Hudson river which is where many of my neighbors got their polio. I remember seeing signs which read "No Swimming due to Polio" in Alpine NJ along beaches on the Hudson River. The Hudson was notorious for having raw sewage enter it. If polio vaccine is the sole reason for ending the spread of polio in the first world, then why hasn't polio ended in India, the Congo and other countries? There have been countless polio vaccine campaigns year after year in Africa, India etc yet we keep hearing about outbreaks, currently, India and Africa have polio outbreaks. The answer is not vaccine but sanitation.

UNICEF Nigerian Polio Vaccine Contaminated with Sterilizing Agents Scientist Finds

KADUNA, Nigeria, March 11, 2004 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A UNICEF campaign to vaccinate Nigeria’s youth against polio may have been a front for sterilizing the nation. Dr. Haruna Kaita, a pharmaceutical scientist and Dean of the Faculty of Pharmaceutical Sciences of Ahmadu Bello University in Zaria, took samples of the vaccine to labs in India for analysis. Using WHO-recommended technologies like Gas Chromatography (GC) and Radio-Immuno assay, Dr. Kaita, upon analysis, found evidence of serious contamination. “Some of the things we discovered in the vaccines are harmful, toxic; some have direct effects on the human reproductive system,” he said in an interview with Kaduna’s Weekly Trust. “I and some other professional colleagues who are Indians who were in the Lab could not believe the discovery,” he said. A Nigerian government doctor tried to persuade Dr. Kaita that the contaminants would have no bearing on human reproduction. “…I was surprised when one of the federal government doctors was telling me something contrary to what I have learned, studied, taught and is the common knowledge of all pharmaceutical scientists—that estrogen cannot induce an anti-fertility response in humans,” he said. “I found that argument very disturbing and ridiculous.”

oh and the FDA and other authorities of course are looking out for our best interests as usual:

FDA Approves Nonexistent Product from Nonexistent Company for Human Testing

OP, I know Sherri personally and you could not be more incorrect. Me thinks your own belief systems on vaccines have clouded the information. She is also very keen on mercury poisoning, heavy metal detoxification etc.
As human bodies all have particular quirks and needs a one size fits all solution to disease using vaccines is inherently problematic. They have done some great things (Rotary's campaign against polio comes to mind) but they have also severely damage many humans beyond recovery.
Peace

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
IT is is MY body come and try to forceully vaccinate me see what happens !
IM not your slave and you will not perform eugenics on me and my family .
All those using peer pressure to intimidate people to have vaccines MIND YOUR BUSINESS !
You made your choice now respect mine !

yeah if you are already vaccinated for [insert disease here] then why are you worried that you will catch [insert disease here] from somebody who isn't vaccinated? who is being irrational here?

No vaccines, no microchips, no thank you !

But what about Penn and Teller?

Originally posted by flightsuit
Their guest right now is Dr. Sherri Tenpenny. It's one thing to hear George Noory eagerly agree with astrologers, numerologists and other types of people pushing pseudo-scientific nonsense that doesn't really hurt anybody.

But to hear him polishing the apple of somebody who wants to use dubious science to convince people not to get vaccines?

Unbelievable.

I wonder how many people will get sick or die because of tonight's show?

Are you pro-vaccines? IMO, vaccines are poison. I used to get yearly flu shots and yearly I would come down with strep throat and have the worst colds/flues/whatever possible. Since I stopped taking them in 2002, I have not once had strep throat and very rare do I get that tickle in the back of my throat indicating a cold is coming. When I do catch a cold, they are no where near as severe as they were when I got those vaccines.

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
No vaccines, no microchips, no thank you !

look how small [and injectable ]they are

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that was in 1999 it is now 2011 do the math

reply to post by DJM8507


you are relying on people whose modus vivendi involves fooling/tricking/distracting you?

I don't get the flu in fact no one in my house does.Click the link. If you don't see that vaccines are at least a set up.Then you're just naive. Onions

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Hey Randy , nice thread bro checking it now .