UFO over Jerusalem: CONFIRMED HOAX

reply to post by Immortalgemini527


I'm sure you are on to something here. And yes, I totally feel gotten. And here I thought that I was free of this thread. ImmortalGemini, would you be willing to speculate on the infant found abandoned at the Dome of the Rock 7 days after the sighting? You know about this, right?

reply to post by Frater210


I think this should be getting closer to dead and buried story.. As much as it excited many of us at first, these guys are assholes and give a very bad reputation to real UFO activity and getting closer to the truth.

www.o-fu-online.net...

07th Feb 2011 Today Mr AllNewsWeb has announced on facebook: Sadly, the Jerusalem UFO incident is dead and buried, in terms of anything meaningful coming out of it. I have to say i was that close, i had the media contacts and they were listening, the proof and the story-unfortunately the so-called “UFO industry” got in the way, hijacked the story and ripped it shreds.

by the way ,look how it flys away with its probe,isnt that neat,and i dont think the camera man looking straight into the air could light 3 lighters, let alone 4. really and if so why wasnt it lit before?

Originally posted by BenCambell

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
A free-for-all anonymous service with no vetting capability is the best place to upload an earth-shattering video so that it may be auto-converted to poor quality and placed among the LOLs and hoaxes is the best place? Really?

That's real cool the way you said it and to the point.

Still, I could imagine some sixteen year old not knowing what else to do.

Usually 16 year olds have parents or older siblings at home, that would have had the UFO encounter and video played to them by the excited 16 year old.

reply to post by Marsoups


Yeah, ripped to shreds about says it. More like blasted to atoms.

reply to post by Immortalgemini527


See, you are on to something. When I take my phone or flip out at night I can't see ANYTHING in the viewfinder. So you are right that is some camera and cameraman!

reply to post by Marsoups


lol Yet today in his broadcast he talks about how it was impossible to hoax and how in his personal interviews with the witnesses he claims they are not smart enough to accomplish this. Playing both sides of the field to generate traffic to his site I'm guessing. Anything having to do with that guy should just be disregarded, but I don't think he has anything to do with original event whether hoax or real. He's just trying to capitalize on it.

Originally posted by Frater210
reply to post by Immortalgemini527

 

I'm sure you are on to something here. And yes, I totally feel gotten. And here I thought that I was free of this thread. ImmortalGemini, would you be willing to speculate on the infant found abandoned at the Dome of the Rock 7 days after the sighting? You know about this, right?

huh,really,please do tell.please

I have to hand it to this thread, it certainly got people debating!

In my opinion someone had a go, to see if it could be done, that is to hoax a place like ATS (and the people that inhabit this twilight zone picnic park).

Mr Mask and others have pointed out one thing quite right:

No matter how good a "Movie", no matter how good the special effects and the acting, we humans can and will instinctively spot something that is fake.

This may or may not be apparent immediately but I am willing to bet that somewhere in the back of the minds of a fair few people there is that niggling doubt...why?

This is a natural defence mechanism that we have built in, to stop us becoming lemmings and walking off a cliff so to speak (and probably the reason why 50% of a group are not so easily fooled while others are initially).

The first thing I did, instinctively was to look at the videos for movements - I tend to see patterns in everything, certainly 'life' moving about would have caught my eye - even at 1 am a place like that would be active (to some degree).

There are things that the mind looks for, patterns that are familiar - it's how we analyse, associate ourselves and accept what is in front of us. For example if someone shows a static holiday photo, there are not so apparent things going on in the photo that are instantly recognised by the brain as 'familiars' and the association begins until a comparative relationship is found....

In non scientific techno-babble that means your mind will find things in a picture or video that look similar to places it already knows, this is how it then verifies if something is known or unknown, familiar or unfamiliar, safe or dangerous.

All these things (and more) are what make as the amazing biological machines we are, trust me. I don't care what you are told to believe but remember this:

We created the technology that we are now subservient to, not the other way around...

Long story short, anyone with half a brain will eventually become instinctive enough to know if something is real or not...look at Hollywood and it's ilk, they have yet to convince anyone (through special effects) that something is genuinely real (atmosphere is a different thing, I am on about cgi/visual effects..).

When the real thing does happen, trust me it wont be a 2-dimensional light like the recent videos or some flashing red lights in the sky (seen in many other recent UFO videos) - you will know what you are looking at is as material as the world you are in right now (and as such all of this is just a delusion).

Adios.

Originally posted by Frater210
reply to post by Immortalgemini527

 

See, you are on to something. When I take my phone or flip out at night I can't see ANYTHING in the viewfinder. So you are right that is some camera and cameraman!

The goverment is very mad ,thats why on ever video,they will only make you focus on the dome and lights and probe,but they really dont want you to notice the triangle waiting for it to come back,thats why it will always cut off when it gets to that point.

You not only see 3 red light...BUT you see 3 redlights in the form of a triangle,and then you saw the probe go back into it,and even as the camera man was looking,you saw it fly away,now if thats not what you saw,then call me a bladent lier.

Originally posted by Frater210
reply to post by Immortalgemini527

 

I'm sure you are on to something here. And yes, I totally feel gotten. And here I thought that I was free of this thread. ImmortalGemini, would you be willing to speculate on the infant found abandoned at the Dome of the Rock 7 days after the sighting? You know about this, right?

Interesting comment my friend (a false messiah or event?), maybe a subject for a new thread!

reply to post by Marsoups


Ah yes...the experts, I mean the debunkers...I mean skeptics... have finally satisfied themselves in defending their worldviews against the possibility of impending attack from the martians. Of course...its a hoax like every other video that has ever been released...EVER. Not one shall stand against our superhero skeptics who have given themselves expert status in armchair debunking!!! America prevails again. Thank you guys. You were able to restore order and civility...to, well...yourselves.

America...F-ck yeah, comin' again to save the Mother Effing day yeah!!!

The floodgates are opening boys. You can keep lying to yourself, but, the rest of the world is catching on.

reply to post by Frater210

TextI'm sure you are on to something here. And yes, I totally feel gotten. And here I thought that I was free of this thread. ImmortalGemini, would you be willing to speculate on the infant found abandoned at the Dome of the Rock 7 days after the sighting? You know about this, right?

To be truthful,when i first saw this video,i thought it was a hoax pertaining to jesus rising from the dead,but people made it into a ufo thing,but now ..7 days later,a baby was found.brb.

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by Marsoups

 

lol Yet today in his broadcast he talks about how it was impossible to hoax and how in his personal interviews with the witnesses he claims they are not smart enough to accomplish this. Playing both sides of the field to generate traffic to his site I'm guessing. Anything having to do with that guy should just be disregarded, but I don't think he has anything to do with original event whether hoax or real. He's just trying to capitalize on it.

Hmm interesting. I read that allnewsW was the first site to break the story, well before people had caught onto the youtube clip. This means that either; the first "witnesses" contacted allnewsW to break the story, or allnewsW organized it, or somehow stumbled upon it by constantly checking youtube for updates.

I don't believe anything this guy says anymore, for him to say that he has now made contact with the witnesses, can we really believe anything he says ??

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by Logical one

 

Ok then say I'm wrong. What if they uploaded them to YT with the same naivety as your accusing me of? The venue is circumstantial, everything but the videos is circumstantial.

Well they probably have learnt their lesson now, but If they truely want to debunk the debunkers then all they need do is take the ORIGINAL footage to a reputable company to get analysed properly.
The fact that even though most media are by now reporting the video to be hoaxes, the YouTube uploader has done squat all in trying to debunk the debunkers by going to a reputable third party to get his ORIGINAL video analysed, or even open himself up for scrutiny (Polygraph tests etc).....If the footage is genuine he/she would have no fear of being interviewed.

reply to post by Immortalgemini527


Hi, IG. You know, you are right. Sometimes the Gov't is Mad. And there are things that they do not want us to see. Nah, I see what you see, too, I don't see the 'probe going back 'in'. But I see the red lights, too. I just don't think they are the same thing that you do.
Here, check out these links........
Abandoned Mess... I mean baby: www.haaretz.com...

SpiritualMystic's video (which I happen to like regardless of verity): www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by Frater210
reply to post by Immortalgemini527

 

Hi, IG. You know, you are right. Sometimes the Gov't is Mad. And there are things that they do not want us to see. Nah, I see what you see, too, I don't see the 'probe going back 'in'. But I see the red lights, too. I just don't think they are the same thing that you do.
Here, check out these links........
Abandoned Mess... I mean baby: www.haaretz.com...

SpiritualMystic's video (which I happen to like regardless of verity): www.youtube.com...

well,that says it all,he drew a triangle space ship,just as i said it was.

ok start over,you will see the 3 blinking lights that you can clearly see forming the triangle,just look at the 4th light,and see where it goes.



Just like every protacol in goverment,shot first dont ask questions.
They was trying to shoot it down,thats where the flash came from.

reply to post by Immortalgemini527

If I were to look at the red lights and had to make some kind of decision on what I thought is producing them I would guess that it is a stationary object with a multi-light array and the lights are blinking in sequence. Not going anywhere. Or moving.

Originally posted by Logical one

Usually 16 year olds have parents or older siblings at home, that would have had the UFO encounter and video played to them by the excited 16 year old.

edit on 8-2-2011 by Logical one because: (no reason given)

Who then pad him on his shoulder and tell him, Well, done, boy, that's sooooo amazing, let's go straight to the press to let the world know we're not alone. I don't think so, more likely they praise him for his creative talents and tell him to stick it on you-tube, Your friends will be real impressed when they see that, You think so, dad, mum, Sure, go ahead, we always knew you got real talent.

Originally posted by Frater210
reply to post by Immortalgemini527

 

If I were to look at the red lights and had to make some kind of decision on what I thought is producing them I would guess that it is a stationary object with a multi-light array and the lights are blinking in sequence. Not going anywhere. Or moving.

'Me to',regardless if its flying away, its up there,lol
So would you say that whatever it is up there is related to what flew back in the sky?