Pro-Mubarak opened fire on protestors

Pro-Mubarak opened fire on protestors

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Now 4:09am in Egypt. Witness has told Reuters that Mubarak supporters have opened fire on demonstrators in Tahrir Square in central Cairo, and that seven people are wounded.

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What will happen later today? The final showdown is drawing closer and the pro-mubarak might use guns. Shouldnt we fear a massacre? The plan is for the anti-mubarak to head towards the palace from the square with the intention of dethroning the president. What will happen then? Especially after all what we seen today morning. I think Obama should do something quick. because the military sure hell wont.

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and CNN confirms this with this tweet:

"we just knew that one of the demonstrators just died from live bullet shot by the NDP thugs here in Tahrir Square."
twitter.com...

reply to post by DuneKnight


What's Obama supposed to do? We can't hold everyone's hand all the time. We're not prepared or equipped to go take out people who are causing chaos and not those who aren't at the drop of a hat. We can bomb people and buildings and that's about it. We are not international riot police. We have National Guard in the Sinai to pretect the Israeli/Egyptian peace. That's it.

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What exactly should President Obama do as the representative of the "Great Satan" and supporter of despots?

I am watching this in real time as I write. BBC reporters have been beaten and detained with hoods a la Taliban, Jihad, et.al. U.S. reporters are in hiding or up in hotel balconies reporting but lets not forget Baghdad.

So Engel (in real time on a balcony) thinks the Pro-Mubarak forces are loosing, but they have military grade weapons, and paid thugs, but the military may have to intervene...Engel says, for the overall momentum of the conflict if this escalates and more pro-Mubarak enforcements arrive, then the army may engage and attack, then Engel reports the army is cheering now with the anti-Mubarak forces. It appears, the Pro-Mubarak forces have retreated. That's CNN.

why wont the man just go...
he has 40 billion dollars, what else can he want...

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What's Obama supposed to do?

NOTHING!
Absolutely nothing!
Their military should monitor their borders and protect Egypt and let the people decide what goes down. When finished, they should send a runner and inform the Egyptian military who is the new boss.

it is none of obama's business, maybe he should go and sort out some problems in the us as there are more than enough to keep him occupied.

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Agreed. It is none of our damn business and we do not need to get pulled into ANOTHER foreign conflict.

Thus far, the military seems to be keeping its cool and remaining aligned with the citizens. As long as that remains, they will be okay.

MSNBC's Engel reports still heavy gunfire in Tahrir Square...it looks bad, some are hugging...like warriors...like good bye...throwing stuff..not molotovs...not grenades...just stuff...the cam is like a web cam...not moving. Engel says there is military movement and an APC is moving... coming into the Square...he thinks the army is confused, trying to get in between the pro and anti Mubarak folks.

Engel says he saw someone on fire from a molotov...friends put him out and on to care. This bridge seems to be the point, the cusp, the symbol or where one holds the line. Lots of gunshots, "into the air?" They call it "cross shooting" only for attention getting into it .."downtown Baghdad stylel" they say.

Shields out of sheet metal, molotov cocktails and Brian Williams thinks the army is only inetersted in saving 5,000 years of human history. Someone on this site made an ingenious comment about hubris...whoever you are, you were correct! Brian Williams is getting ready for another coffee table book.

"none of our business"

So lets close the Suez Canal then, since the world is none of our business too.

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wow maybe you should run for president, you could make everyones problems your own just to be a really nice guy. maybe you could clean up all the crap out of the nile while your there.

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1) The Suez Canal is not ours to close.

2) International trade is a wholly different situation than international peace-keeping/invading.

Rachel Maddow and Engel say the population has dropped and they are dispersing and Brian Williams has usurped Engels position on the balcony. Tanks are spraying a smokescreen, not the bad kind...well, it sucks, but not gas.

MSNBC says Mubarak has said the protesters will die and the protesters say he will die...I think we should take this with a grain of salt with out vetting. Williams is saying if this is happening if this were friends, Egypt has ceased and has ceased functioning, cars on fire, truck ransacked...he never finished his thought...Engel steps in...Williams is such a dinosaur. Thank God Rachel went to Engel. The driver of the truck is being kicked and beaten and the truck has nothing is in it, it is a pick up truck...this looks staged. Like Baghdad....! Tear gas canister... Rachel who never was in the '60s and '70s protests here in the US thinks it is for a reason...NOT!

We can cut off all aid to Egypt. We can place sanctions.

There's machine gun fire going on right now as I type.

Egypt death toll now tops toll for Iran protests, which US and West widely condemned as an atrocity

thats from a CNN reporter.



Maybe Egypt shouldve been making nukes to make the US care. Oh wait, they do have nuclear plants in the works. How come no one pointed that out?

Actually, the suez canal is owned by the Egyptians and they did close it once before and it did lead to a short war from Europeans.

Why don't the protesters shoot back?

Originally posted by HoldTheBeans
Why don't the protesters shoot back?

Egypt has gun laws and ordinary citizens do not posses guns at all. The anti-mubarak protestors are peaceful and have no guns. Word on the street that all egyptians will fight back but with their hands. Its now or never, because right now Mubarak is winning and hes not prepared to step down. Military are passive and seem to support pro-mubarak.

Im sorry but how can we just watch this gov-sanctioned massacre happen on our TV sets?

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They do not have guns.

It fits the model of peaceful protest. One side has guns, one doesn't.

That's not what I read unless my source was wrong. I looked the other day about guns and there were thousands in private hands. I guess they all went back to facebook and twitter now that the net is back on.

I am surprised that the Egyptian government hasn't taken advantage of new technology for crowd/riot control. Im sure they have been to some of the military conventions that display LRAD crowd deterence or the ADS (Active Denial System) for crowd/riot control. This would be a great time to test these system out to see how effective they are.