Glimpses into the future?

Originally posted by notimportant
Well, all those conspiracy theories are always leading to some point were the Jewish bankers (Rotschild family) will come to speech, and everything is blamed on them. I see there's also some hatred growing in the theories towards FreeMasons and other groups.

I just don't get it that everyone is pointing fingers to others...

well perhaps it isn't a coincidence that many people come to a similar conclusion, and perhaps it's no coincidence that the nation of Isreal is involved in shunned upon behavior and is surrounded by nations that dislike them, any maybe it's no coincidence that the rothschild family has ties with shady organizations and dealings...

i'm just trying to shine light on the perspective

All those people will come to the similair conclusion AFTER reading some theories because the tellers of those storys are kind of "charismatic", also I think that people who really, and then I meant REALLY !!! believe in that stuff are weakminded or mentally ill.

Originally posted by notimportant
All those people will come to the similair conclusion AFTER reading some theories because the tellers of those storys are kind of "charismatic", also I think that people who really, and then I meant REALLY !!! believe in that stuff are weakminded or mentally ill.

why does it matter how people come to the conclusion? the only thing that matters is that EVERYTHING is relative, everything is subjective. and if the subjective opinion of much of the world is in agreement, then that means that much of the people of the world perceive the Jews or Rothchilds as you have described. who are you to call all these people liars or "mentally ill" just because of their subjective view of their world? you have a subjective view too you know?, would you appreciate someone telling you that what you perceive to be true isn't, and that you are in fact mentall ill because of it? if you are a man of faith i'd say you have long road ahead of you..

kinda sucks this thread got a lil derailed, i was into it.

i will add that my signature is a very appropriate poetic description of the phenomenon mentioned, and strongly corroborates with my first post in this thread.

btw, i didn't write the poem

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Tell me you aren't serious! You registered a few days ago ~just~ to point out how irrational and delusional everyone on these forums are? You don't have anything better to do with your time? And, on top of that you start interjecting comments regarding antisemitism into this thread where no one has even brought the subject up nor alluded to it.
Either you are responding to the wrong thread, crossing threads with ideas or you are deliberately trying to derail the OP's topic.

From your very own fingers straight to the boards:

Originally posted by notimportant
All those people will come to the similair conclusion AFTER reading some theories because the tellers of those storys are kind of "charismatic", also I think that people who really, and then I meant REALLY !!! believe in that stuff are weakminded or mentally ill.

Originally posted by notimportant
To be honest, once I was like you and I also believed in things like conspiracies, but then, one day, I saw that they were full of #, racism, antisemitism, hatred against others, dogma's, and also lots extrimism. So I don;t believe anymore.

If the shoe fits, wear it! Which are you then? Weakminded or mentally ill?

Originally posted by metalshredmetal
I'm familiar with the phenomenon you refer to. I believe it is caused because the dream world is a very complex place compared to the physical world...You have no physical body, but an "astral" body, which is usually described as an emotional body, not physical or mental. that's why dreams are always about the feeling, you always feel when things will happen, or you can only feel who's around you or where you are. you don't really think in dreams..maybe a glimmer of thought, but nothing an animal probably couldn't do. When people are lucid dreaming they usually say if they think too much they will self destruct the dream and wake up. but, it has also been studied that there are a few different "layers" of dreaming, different depths of sleep and different levels of awareness. once humans are in a deep deep sleep, that is the place where our "astral body" is sort of abandoned because the dream state is so deep, and thus very emotional; so no body is needed. you're soooo conscious of emotion that there is no room for a body.

what are your encounters?

I've had some dreams, .. or "visions" of the future if you will.....

I actually put them in a thread,

"Grim Visions of The Future"


www.abovetopsecret.com...

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most generally, my encounters are with my experiences of being, and my views because of it. i'm no spirit guide or a saint, and i haven't seen it all; but I make opinions based on my experiential perspective.

what are your interests in these subjects? what is fascinating?

Originally posted by SeenMyShare
From your very own fingers straight to the boards:

Originally posted by notimportant
All those people will come to the similair conclusion AFTER reading some theories because the tellers of those storys are kind of "charismatic", also I think that people who really, and then I meant REALLY !!! believe in that stuff are weakminded or mentally ill.

Originally posted by notimportant
To be honest, once I was like you and I also believed in things like conspiracies, but then, one day, I saw that they were full of #, racism, antisemitism, hatred against others, dogma's, and also lots extrimism. So I don;t believe anymore.

If the shoe fits, wear it! Which are you then? Weakminded or mentally ill?

I was 14 when I was checking out paranormal stuff on the internet, I've read a lot of crazy story's and sometimes the theories you now have are in somekind of way the same as those you had then. I'm now 25 and I just can't believe it anymore, it all got out of proportions, people got filled with fear and now they believe everything....

well thanks for the replies guys Not sure what connection my thread has with jews and racists but...uh...okay.

Anyway, MetalShredMetal explained quite a lot.

Thanks.

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Personally I don't believe much of what I read, but, if someone wants to why is it my or your business to call them names, question their sanity and ridicule them? You came to this thread simply to call people names as if you are so superior to them. What I or they believe or do not believe has nothing to do with you exhibiting very poor manners in derailing the OP's thread.

An intelligent person debates without resorting to name calling. They cite sources and post source links to back up their point of view. In the end, though, its not anyone's place to change someone else's mind. All you can do is rationally and politely to give your point of view and let the reader make up their own mind. Calling names simply strips you of your credibility and the resultant hard feelings keeps people from taking your opinions seriously.

You know, this is not entirely what you were on about but it made me think of something I read a while back...

Apparently sometimes our brain can process what we see before it processes what we see and that can lead to a case of deja vu. Ever since then, whenever I believe 'I've been here before' or 'wow I've seen this already' I always remember that maybe my brain is just kick-ass!

yeah it happens to me every so often, or atleast i think it does, but hey if we can change our selfs going down a bad path it must be a good thing?.

These scientific types tend to see with one eye, equally as much as those who wish to Believe.

Just harking back now to quite a few years ago either on this or other forums where I wrote about my own dreams and visions that came to reality.

1.. Dream in late August 2001: Driving past an airport to see men in flight suits with white shawls over their heads entering 'military' versions of Passenger aircraft. When I arrive at my destination in the dream those aircraft were seen crashing into buildings.. pieces flying everywhere and massive loss of life. I did not understand the significance of the white shawls.

I told my firends and family the next day to watch out for major aircrashes with military significance to happen in the next couple of weeks. A couple of weeks later alleged Islamic fundamentalists crashed two passenger aircraft into buildings in New York City.

Explain that please mr scientific type.

2... Dream November 2004: I was walking along a beachfront during Christmas School Holidays in an area that was very "touristy" and very tropical when I noticed the water recede and on the horizon I could see a large standing swell heading toward the land. I yelled "Tsunami", and ran into the closest high-rise hotel.

Once the first swell past I made my way to ground level and struggled in the water to reach higher ground before the next two swells arrived. Along the way I observed major loss of life and devastation that went far inland on this tropical island archipelago.

I told all my friends and family to be aware of this event to come shortly.... didn't have to wait long when on Boxing Day that year a devastating Tsunami hit the tropical holiday resorts as well as many other countries.

Explain that please Mr Scientific type.

Lastly, here is one that was not during a dream, it was in real time as I was presiding over a research group meeting in 2003 I think the year was...

When I am supposed to "See" something I get a pulling sensation on my forehead, and the strength of that feeling tells me the importance of what I am about to be shown.. this night it was very strong so I asked for silence from the 40+ people at the meeting while I closed my eyes and "opened up" to See.

I found myself in a dnak and dark building.. very run down and almost third-world feeling.. which had a lot of naked kids being held against their will be armed men in military style cammo clothing. A women also om black cammo dress came out of a doorway and started shooting the children.

Of course this brough me to tears instantly and the people at the meeting wanted to know what I saw.. I could not tell them. When the meeting was finished my old mentor and one other young man who I knew to be "sensitive" asked about it.So I told them. The young man then told me he had heard news on the radio prior to our meeting of Chechin Rebels taking over a Russian School building.

I could not sleep that night with worry.. all prior visoins have come to be reality so I had a precedent to follow there... and as soon as the sun rose the next morning I listened to the radio news to hear that a female chechin rebel was the one who started shoooting these children. I was devastated to say the least.

Now Mr Scientific type person, please explain the workings of this.

I know how it works for me as it has been a part of my life since early childhood and so I am interested to hear what you may wish to say about this.

i remembered a section of the very interesting and well done documentary: What the Bleep do we know?! ... about time travel and it cites experiments in the 70s that PROVE the existence of our "brain"'s ability to time travel in the future and back. i'll let the vid explain. the whole documentary is good, this clip is good, but the part i'm mentioning starts around 4:00. it's veeeerrry relevant to the topic, and OP. :

I have had a few of these dreams. They are always Lucid and they are of places I have never been. The first time it happened I talked to my Mother about it and she told me she also has them as well as other siblings. It is an amazing feeling, walking into an area/neighborhood and knowing what is around the corner.

i have had events such as these take place often throughout my life.
I honestly dont know if i could say that all of these instances had stemmed from dreams though most have.
the best example i can use would be this(true story)...

I was riding in a car with a freind and we were having a conversation, i began to have this sense of familiarity in the whole situation, like i knew what was happening, but not "like" i knew...
I knew the whole bit like it was rehearsed i knew what he was about to say, and i was so close to beating him to the punch we almost spoke simultaneously. I kept it to myself for a few moments (seemed longer for some reason but the whole event took place in about a half mile of driving at about 25-30). Then i couldnt help it the feeling of similarity had begun to fade and i wanted to react, so i cut him off and said what he was about to say.
He turned to me with an odd look and said "I knew you were gonna do that".
Myself no longer "in the moment" and thinking his comment (and look) was odd i decidedly denied that he knew what i was gonna say...
He then turned his attention back to the road and became very...distant, i felt like i needed to say something but before i could he told me not too.....
Then...
to top it all off, he stated in a very stern voice that i should answer my phone, then my phone rang...

Anyway stuff like that happens more than we think it does mostly because people dont want to talk about it, for one reason or another. I find, that if you can recognize those moments in your life, they are the signposts, learn to read the signs....
Several times in my life after i have had a dream about something that seemed important at the time, i lose track of in waking, and all i am able to remember are bits and peices, an object in a certain condition, a voice saying something particular. I seem to grab on to those details and await thier arrival, knowing then, that is the time for change.

The last one i had some years ago, that felt like that ( if you know what im saying by that) is not one that i am waiting for, in fact i dread the moment, even though i know that doing something for someone could get me killed, i know it is the right thing to do, and in the memory (dream) i am aware of doing it and the results and do so willingly, even now i can remember doing this and being so afraid.

Wether or not these events are coincidence or otherwise is of no concern, i beleive these things, experience these things and that makes them real enough for me.
In addition, since it has been some time since i have had a feeling like that, i beleive that i have either fallen off the path or this "vision" or "dream" or "memory" that has haunted me for manyyears now... really is the end

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Well, this post is a bit of a insult for people like me, acedemics, neuroscientist and all those others who can think rationally.

Why don't you just stop, just stop telling complete disinformation.

Heh...well maybe if you were as "academic" as you like to believe you are, you would realize hundreds of validated and easily reproducible experiments prove there are aspects of the human brain which can seemingly draw information from the future and the past. If you thought as rationally as you like to believe you think, you would understand that we know very little about dreams and the inner working of Human consciousness, yet you sit there like some sort of scientific God exclaiming we are all crazy for even considering the idea?!?!?

EDIT: Removed uncalled for remark and added some threads of interest:
Cornell University Lab Releases Powerful New Evidence that the Human Mind can Perceive the Future
Quantum Experiments Show That The Future Can Influence The Present.
New Type Of Entanglement Allows 'Teleportation in Time,' Say Physicists

Originally posted by WhizPhiz
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Well, this post is a bit of a insult for people like me, acedemics, neuroscientist and all those others who can think rationally.

Why don't you just stop, just stop telling complete disinformation.

Heh...well maybe if you were as "academic" as you like to believe you are, you would realize hundreds of validated and easily reproducible experiments prove there are aspects of the human brain which can seemingly draw information from the future and the past. If you thought as rationally as you like to believe you think, you would understand that we know very little about dreams and the inner working of Human consciousness, yet you sit there like some sort of scientific God exclaiming we are all crazy for even considering the idea?!?!?

EDIT: Removed uncalled for remark and added some threads of interest:
Cornell University Lab Releases Powerful New Evidence that the Human Mind can Perceive the Future
Quantum Experiments Show That The Future Can Influence The Present.
New Type Of Entanglement Allows 'Teleportation in Time,' Say Physicists

edit on 2-2-2011 by WhizPhiz because: (no reason given)

I'm just reading that article on the Cornell University website, I believe it is a better and more thrustworthy source , and the article there is a bit different from what you posted.

First of all, there is "some" evidence, not POWERFULL evidence,

Second, it's all just is ome kind of expirimental phase, it's not done yet, so please stop posting twisted facts, the links you just posted are all links to articles on this forum. So there is a big chance that they are twisted, editted, and what so on.