VACCINES: Get The Full Story

Originally posted by RUSSO
Ok, but where you get your sources? If you had one, please, show me a link so I can read and take my own conclusions.

Ah yes, the battle cry of the anti vaccine crowd. That ill fated research done by Andrew Wakefield.

Too bad it was total bogus and he falsified all of his data

www.huffingtonpost.com...
1998 study linking autism, shots based on 'falsified data'

More news than you can shake a stick out.
news.google.com...

Originally posted by RUSSO

Really Robert F. Kennedy? Hmmm who should I get my medical advice for my child from? Lets see A Kennedy? Im sure he knows how to make a child, but medical advice? Same with jenny McCarthy, sure Ill own the Playboy she posed in but medical advice?

Lets see how old Roberts "expose" stood the test of facts:

Autism-vaccine article by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. removed from Salon.com's website
The assertion that autism is linked to childhood vaccinations has run and run, even as study after study has failed to find such a link, either with MMR vaccines or ones containing thimerosal, an organic compound that contains mercury.

One prominent article fingering thimerosal was “Deadly Immunity,” written by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. , and co-published by Salon.com and Rolling Stone (which fact-checked it) in 2005.

Salon on Jan. 16 announced it was removing the story from its website. In explaining of the decision, Kerry Lauerman, Salon’s editor-in-chief, noted that shortly after the story ran it was amended to correct several errors of fact “that went far to undermine Kennedy’s expose.” Salon decided to keep the article posted, duly corrected, “in the spirit of transparency,” Lauerman added.

Dont get me started on MCarthys ramblings.

How many children have died of a preventable illness because of her advice? at least 634
Jenny McCarthy Body Count

thats your opinion mod !
i think the 911 os is a hoax
Being that TPTB control the media its easy enough to label anything too controversial or damaging to the agenda of the nwo a hoax !
like i said thanks for YOUR opinion
We re not in the NWO yet thanks !
Therfore i am well within my right to be cautious if i choose to be .

Okay lets get down to brass tacks here:

1) Kindly show me a peer reviewed medical research article that shows how vaccines have caused autism.
Heck Ill even help you www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

2) Kindly explain why autism rates in Europe who took out the dreaded thimerisol years ago have mirrored the US.

3) kindly explain why children of military families who get vaccinations above and beyond the norm do not show a higher rate than the general population. And for gods sakes stop trotting out the Amish.as thier narrow genetic pool and environmental conditions may have more to do with it than anything else

reply to post by FredT


Im not talking about autism , im saying that people shouldn't be INTIMIDATED into taking vaccines with very questionable things in them ,
il take the chance of swine flu thanks
33 years of no man made medicines and drugs and my health is fine .
What you put in YOUR body is your choice , no one elses

vaccines have mercury in them fact
its not advisable to inject it in your arm
mercury detox is a good thing fact

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
thats your opinion mod !
Therfore i am well within my right to be cautious if i choose to be .

Yes, but thats why ATS exists no?

It is your right to be cautious and if you dont want to vaccinate your child or yourself, then are you willing to:

Pay out of pocket the cost of your hospitalization for a preventable disease? (Having seen the high cost paid by those who opt out of vaccines, I assure you its not cheap.)

Not attend public schools because you or your child may be infective?

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
vaccines have mercury in them fact
its not advisable to inject it in your arm
mercury detox is a good thing fact

Really which ones?

reply to post by FredT


Before I make a methodical reply to the thread....did anyone notice how the interviewer called Robert by the name of "Bobby"??? Check it out at 5:18. Is that guy on crack or is that Robert's real name?

Originally posted by Skywatcher2011
reply to post by FredT

 

Before I make a methodical reply to the thread....did anyone notice how the interviewer called Robert by the name of "Bobby"??? Check it out at 5:18.

Is that guy on crack or is that Robert's real name?

edit on 2-2-2011 by Skywatcher2011 because: added extra note

I think many refer to him as that much like his dad was.

reply to post by FredT


who says my children will attend school ? home schooling will be fine thnx
home schooling = less illnesses being passed around

Class dismissed

reply to post by TheGhostViking


Home schooling can also lead to isolation and depression.

www.ehow.com...

Just a thought

reply to post by FredT


Ummm, just dug this up:
en.wikipedia.org...

Robert Francis "Bobby" Kennedy

Didn't see any references to his dad's name being Bobby.

reply to post by Skywatcher2011


and public school can lead to bullying depression , suicide/jared/erad
just a thought !

Originally posted by FredT

Originally posted by RUSSO

Really Robert F. Kennedy? Hmmm who should I get my medical advice for my child from? Lets see A Kennedy? Im sure he knows how to make a child, but medical advice? Same with jenny McCarthy, sure Ill own the Playboy she posed in but medical advice?

No you dont, what about these guys?

Nicola Antonucci, MD
Todd M. Elsner, DC
Alexander Kotok, MD, PhD
Máximo Sandín, PhD
David Ayoub, MD
Jorge Esteves, MD
Eneko Landaburu, MD
Len Saputo, MD
Nancy Turner Banks, MD
Edward "Ted" Fogarty, MD
Luc Lemaire, DC
Michael Schachter, MD
Timur Baruti, MD
Jack Forbush, DO
Janet Levatin, MD
Viera Scheibner, PhD
Danny Beard, DC
Milani Gabriele, CRNA, RN
Thomas Levy, MD, JD
Penelope Shar, MD
Françoise Berthoud, MD
Sheila Gibson, MD, BSc
Stephen L'Hommedieu, DC
Bruce Shelton, MD, MD(H)
Russell Blaylock, MD
Mike Godfrey, MBBS
Paul Maher, MD, MPH
Debbi Silverman, MD
Fred Bloem, MD
Isaac Golden, ND
Andrew Maniotis, PhD
Kenneth “KP” Stoller, MD
Laura Bridgman, FNP, ND
Gary Goldman, PhD
Steve Marini, PhD, DC
Terri Su, MD
Kelly Brogan, MD
Garry Gordon, MD, DO, MD(H)
Juan Manuel Martínez Méndez, MD
Didier Tarte, MD
Sarah Buckley, MD
Doug Graham, DC
Sue McIntosh, MD
Leigh Ann Tatnall, RN
Rashid Buttar, DO
Boyd Haley, PhD
Richard Moskowitz, MD
Adiel Tel‐Oren, MD, DC
Harold Buttram, MD
Gayl Hamilton, MD
Sheri Nakken, RN, MA
Sherri Tenpenny, DO
Lisa Cantrell, RN
Linda Hegstrand, MD, PhD
Christiane Northrup, MD
Renee Tocco, DC
Lua Català Ferrer, MD
James Howenstine, MD
Amber Passini, MD
Demetra Vagias, MD, ND
Jennifer Craig, PhD, BSN, MA
Suzanne Humphries, MD
Ronald Peters, MD, MPH
Franco Verzella, MD
Robert Davidson, MD, PhD
Belén Igual Diaz, MD
Jean Pilette, MD
Julian Whitaker, MD
Ana de Leo, MD
Philip Incao, MD
Pat Rattigan, ND
Ronald Whitmont, MD
Carlos de Quero Kops, MD
Joyce Johnson, ND
Zoltan Rona, MD, MSc
Betty Wood, MD
Carolyn Dean, MD, ND
A. Majid Katme, MBBCh, DPM
Chaim Rosenthal, MD
Eduardo Ángel Yahbes, MD
Mayer Eisenstein, MD, JD, MPH
Tedd Koren, DC
Robert Rowen, MD

It's a hell of a crowd.

Did you even read the PDF?

Originally posted by FredT

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
vaccines have mercury in them fact
its not advisable to inject it in your arm
mercury detox is a good thing fact

Really which ones?

Ill give you some help:

www.fda.gov...

Evey major vaccine has mercury free option. In fact many never had it from the get go. In that light?

What your excuse for not vaccinating yourself now?

I REPEAT not having a vaccine is my choice any one who tries to intimidate me to have a vaccine will be doing so in vain! That includes mods, cops, doctors anyone!
I am not your slave!

reply to post by RUSSO


Wow a list of doctors from what amounts to the Tobacco Institute for the anti vaccine crowd Now if im interested in homepatic medcine in Bulgaria Ill get in touch with Alexander Kotok but otherwise, none of these guys seems to be involved, or have ever done any published research on vaccines etc? Aside from your PDF that is

Funny I ran a few names through pub med and STOP THE PRESSES and none of them have even published peer review research showing a link let alone anything that resembles vaccines

For example
Nicola Antonucci, MD
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Todd M. Elsner, DC
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Alexander Kotok
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Máximo Sandín
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...


etc etc etc etc...........

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
I REPEAT not having a vaccine is my choice any one who tries to intimidate me to have a vaccine will be doing so in vain! That includes mods, cops, doctors anyone!
I am not your slave!

edit on 2-2-2011 by TheGhostViking because: (no reason given)

Once again aside from your rhetoric, are you willing to pay for the cost of treating vaccine preventable illnesses should you contract one? Yes or no?

Originally posted by FredT
reply to post by RUSSO

 

Wow a list of doctors from what amounts to the Tobacco Institute for the anti vaccine crowd

Now if im interested in homepatic medcine in Bulgaria Ill get in touch with Alexander Kotok but otherwise, none of these guys seems to be involved, or have ever done any published research on vaccines etc? Aside from your PDF that is

Funny I ran a few names through pub med and STOP THE PRESSES and none of them have even published peer review research showing a link let alone anything that resembles vaccines

For example
Nicola Antonucci, MD
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Todd M. Elsner, DC
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Alexander Kotok
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Máximo Sandín
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...


etc etc etc etc...........

etc etc? Show me more.