Do you think this war is like David versus Goliath ?, page 2

You don't listen do you??? I don't think you want to listen to anything we have to say. So don't say anything to us if your just going to ignore what we say.

Nans, and I sleeping??????? I don't think so. You are the one dreaming.The United States said thier plan is for 12 different states witinin Iraq to be run by a council of tribal ministers. That is no different from how Afghanistan was set up after the Soviets left. Once the Soviets were gone the Islamists took over. They will do so again in Iraq, and I'll be damned if they allow some tribes to get in their way. Al-Ansar Islam is already taking care of that. They want to wipe the Kurds of the face of the planet. Yet this war is all about Kurdish freedom????? I think not.

If Kurds had any freedom would they not be allowed to speak their own langauge in Turkey???? I think so. Do they have such freedom??? No. So you really think that giving this land back to the Iraqi's without a strict reform policy will enable this country to get back on it's feet and stay on them at that???? I don't. I think they need our help more than most people are willing to commit. Do you realize that new forces will emerge. Bin Laden and Hizballah International will have started their proxy war by now. The Kurds are already in a war knowing that the proxy war from Al-Quida and the Iranian State will soon make their way into thier neighborhood. Lets not forget the Zionists who think that Zion is ancient Babylon. They are begining their exploitation by now. 'Palestinians' even have rights there. For most 'Palestinians' are nomads who have fought religious wars and dodged religious persacution for hundreds if not thousands of years now. Why do you think they are so Nationalist, some are even Socialists, just like the Israelis. Then what about all other foreign powers???? Canada, China, Italy, Germany, France, America, and Russia. They all will want to play major roles in Iraq but no one has planned any of this and it's going to start another Cold War. The Cold War over Mideast dominance and sovereignty. Don't forget the Religious Wars that have been going on for thousands of years, that spawed all these movements. Their would be no 'Palestinian' if it wasn't for the Holy Wars in Israel. The Al-Quida Group and it's Islamist radical groups around the world would not be around if it wasn't for these Religious Wars in place in the Middle East.

The only thing Nans was trying to tell you was that, because of these dangers I named, the United States needs to show and promise more of a commitment to the stabilization of the new Iraqi State. She thinks what they are FINALLY doing is good, and that more needs to be done. She wants to see freedom in Iraq and she knows very well that America can provide freedom, if they put their hearts into it. If the spirit to love Iraqis isn't among the majority of the Americans than that prospect of freedom could fall short. She is just trying to say that more heart and blood needs to be comitted to bringing peace. She is worried that is all. She doesn't hate Americans. She even said she wants to live here, because of the free enterprize. So please read her statements again, and don't take everything so personally. I don't see how you could even make this personal but you have. I see no reason for your assaults Thomas. This is like the 3rd or 4th time I have had to talk to you about your blatant disregard for the actual meanings of my statements and the statements of others. How did you ever become a Moderator if you can't even listen to what people tell you???

[Edited on 21-3-2003 by Abraham Virtue]