If M Theory is accurate, there may be aliens walking around us, all the time.

Any hard look at about any politician will confirm this.

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Already been done.

They just talk about this now, cause one person found out this by his own with old research.

But its done and in use everyday, and this place, you call home, is just another place for those who really lives here.

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Maybe we are the alien’s project, and they like to come back to hang out.

As a general statement on the whole alien thing, or any, “taboo,” topic that we are not supposed to be talking about in every day conversation . . . I will stand firm on the following statement: One need only to be curious, research, and not be afraid to bring up topics like this to strangers, friends, and neighbors. Most people are soooooo scared to be laughed at, they will NEVER do this. (Ego, it’s killing us). I have done this my entire life--asked these uncomfortable type of questions to a variety of diverse people. Segues . . . it’s all about segues people. Start practicing smooth transitions while talking to people, and it makes this process so natural, that most people don’t even realize that the question was not a natural part of the conversation.

And let me end by saying this, and this is the God-honest truth ... no one has ever laughed AT me. I’ve heard some nervous laughs alright, but I cannot recall ever being laughed at. I’ve learned things that would blow your mind. Throughout my life, what I have found, is that many people are walking around with a secret, a secret that they will never voluntarily divulge. But if asked . . . it’s like a dam has been let out. It’s amazing.

Originally posted by InfaRedMan

Originally posted by SaosinEngaged

At this very moment, we have brilliant scientists blasting protons at near the speed of light into one another in an attempt to find a graviton, the particle that carries gravity. What they're actually looking for is a trace that the graviton has moved to a different membrane (dimension) as a result of the high energy collision.

I'm puzzled so if you can clarify further....

By what means do we trace the theoretical graviton moving into a theoretical membrane or extra dimension when we have no proof of either? Math alone can prove neither of the above. While one person can proclaim that if the math adds up, then extra dimensions must exist, another person can just as easily say that it proves that the universe rides on the back of a giant celestial squid called Trevor. It's completely subjective... if you know what I mean.

IRM

It was explained in this manner:

The collision of the two protons with that immense amount of energy will fragment them into their smallest quantum parts. It is at this moment the graviton, again the particle that carries gravity, will theoretically "jump" into a different membrane. The reasons for this I cannot explain, because I'm not a physicist and I'd have to research it further, but I know the "loss" of this particle would be measured by the recreation of the matter inside the chamber and having the calculated energy coming up short.

M Theory is just an evolution of String theory. The reason why this fascinates me is precisely because it isn't some random off-the-wall theory about something that could never be proven.

It's driven by real science and real mathematics by some of the most brilliant minds in the world. It's an evolution of Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle and rides on the coattails of the finding that the same matter CAN exist in more than one location at the same time.

Of course nothing is proven with regards to extra-dimensions yet, but correlative evidence suggests a possibility that has warranted millions of dollars to fund these kinds of experiments. And if these experiments are successful, it may not be as subjective as you think, and it could revolutionize science. I'm all for it.

I'd also like to hear if you guys watched the video and found it as interesting as I did.

There's something about the passion Michio Kaku has for science that makes him very enthralling to listen to, at least for me. It's also refreshing to hear scientists be so open-minded about what could amount to an extraordinary change in how we perceive and view our existence.

On another note, I have a habit of being very "skeptical" about things on this forum, so I wanted in part to make this topic about something that not only fascinates me, but shows I'm not a "closed minded disinfo agent" or anything of the sort.

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I've believed in multiverses for many years, and recently a thought came to mind after watching a show similar to the video in the OP:

Not only do multiverses exist, but there are an infinite number of them, each one just slightly different than the last, and you slip from one to another on a routine basis. If there is an infinite number of them, then it stands to reason that every possible variation that you can imagine is taking place in your life somewhere. Your mind is connected to the multiverse, giving you some control over your place in them. When you move into another universe, the "you" in that universe moves into yet another universe. These jumps appear to be seamless because in most cases, you're limited to slipping into a universe that's just slightly different than the one you're in, and your memory is corrupted to "adjust" for the change. When a jump happens a change of some kind in your life takes place which doesn't follow the normal linear pattern of your past. As an example, winning the lottery. Of course, bad things that happen could also be a result of this.

This would also explain almost all things considered "occult". Ghosts could be a connection between your mind and the deceased person who didn't die in a parallel universe. That's why many times they seem to be playing out events completely oblivious to the person watching them. This could also explain when someone "manifests" something through visualization, whether an event or something material - they actually are slipping into a universe where that event or object exists. Psychics see into these other universes, and if they're correct in their predictions, it's because they looked into one that's close enough to the one they reside in.

If you've ever been in a situation that you thought would take a miracle to get out of, then through some amazing stroke of luck were saved from it, you simply slipped into an alternate universe where the solution existed. The same might be true for a time where everything seems to be going great, then a sudden stroke of bad luck happens.

Ok, maybe it's a far-fetched idea, but it was something fun to think about.

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Nice post, if this is true and can be proven then surely it opens up the possibility about other densities after death and ascension so to speak?

People disregard whatever they either dont or choose not to understand...the universe in itself along with life are amazing in themselves and didnt just come about for nothing...if were here it is only logical to believe other beings be them visible or not are also here.

S&F

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In that case they are not aliens.

Originally posted by eNaR

Originally posted by SaosinEngaged

.....At this very moment, we have brilliant scientists blasting protons at near the speed of light into one another in an attempt to find a graviton, the particle that carries gravity. What they're actually looking for is a trace that the graviton has moved to a different membrane (dimension) as a result of the high energy collision.

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I certainly hope those brilliant scientists know just what the protons / gravitons do when they supposedly enter another possibly-inhabited dimension. If the resultant gravitons create negative effects in some other dimension, it may only be a matter of time before those inhabitants start bombarding us back with hell knows what! ......or perhaps they already are......

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I just hope one of those scientists dont have a son who is sick and dying. and then dies and he tries to travel to one of the parallel universes successfully. taking an alternate version of his son back with him and saving his life. who knows what hilarious hijenks would then ensue

Yeah i watched this series on tv awhile ago, if scientists are talking about this. Then im afraid to say for you religion haters have to debunk this as fast as you can.. cos this supports islamic views on where supernatural/extraterrestrial beings may reside.

Its not about aliens coming from distant stars, or light years away etc. If they are in different dimentions capable of travelling in between, then it supports Islamic views on Djinns, where they reside, where angels may reside etc.

Besides mainstream religions, nearly every religion, ideology of all kinds including new agers back to ancient times, believe in spirits, that can be summoned etc, if they are all around us, then it would make sense to how they appear etc.

Even many ufo accounts have reporst of craft/being etc moving in and out of visibility.

All the occult practices the TPTB use, etc all have black magic, rituals etc to summon these interdimentional beings, crowley even drew a pic of one of em looking like a gray, amidst the accounts of millions other alien etc testimonials.

In islam it is said that Agels, Allah himself hide behind veils and if one layer/barrier was to be unveiled the light from their source would be so powerful enough to cause disastrous effects. ie. Moses asking to see God, God revealed but a layer to reduce a mountain to flakes like cotton wool.

Countless angels controlling the harmony of the universe, one for every raindrop etc. Being made of divine light.

Djinns able to shapeshift, being made of a smokeless fire, invisible to humans, unless they decide to show themselves.

What if the galaxies/stars etc = heavens

And black holes eg. hell doesnt have conventional fire, but black fire so many time stronger than normal fire = black holes?

Just a few thing to think about Science and Religion is much closer than you might perceive... Pull together the jigsaw piece puzzle of life...

Great post, thanks for the info! I've been interested in the idea of a multiverse for a while now.

Starred and flagged.

Now off I go to watch the vid whilst I eat my milk and cookies. Yes, I'm going to eat milk and cookies.

Originally posted by jonnywhite

Originally posted by The_Zomar
Very possible.

Some people would like to see a new world order. But for what?

This is off-topic! But google PlanetHood.

Not off topic... Why would humans want to control the world? I've always thought the ultimate meaning of the NWO was extra terrestrial related. Like they are commanding the gov. to put one together or something.

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Not in traditional sense of beings from another star system or galaxy, but certainly still "ET" in the sense that they didn't originate on this earth or this quantum dimension.

It's just a more lateral method of taking the search for life, rather than an extension of our reach into the cosmos. Of course, even if this theory is correct, it may be just as long until any kind of interaction can take place, if it's even possible.

Originally posted by Soulshock

Originally posted by mr-lizard
Even from a young age, I often thought this to be true. Before any knowledge of science.

Not sure why, but since reading some of this stuff, it all seems familiar.

Edit: i don't necessarily mean aliens. But what I mean is the unexplored paths of conscious decisions that never were.. Parallel lives, time jumps, etc.

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Believe in what you feel natural, like that. I have always thought there was life outside Earth just because it felt natural. That is 'past knowledge', this here is not our first lives, we come with knowledge acquired in previous experiences. There's so much more to existence than we imagine possible. If you showed the internet to people 100 years ago you would be called a witch and burned. Imagine in 500 years from now, technology will seem like utter magic. Now imagine that there are other races in other planets that are that much more advanced than us. How can they come here and show us their toys and share their knowledge. Are we ready? As ready as people who were burning witches hundreds of years ago - try reasoning with them with our modern thinking - they will not get It, they were not ready. And guess what? To this day there's still people who burn witches in Africa, and people who hate and do harm to other people. We Are Not Ready.

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I agree with your thinking. Maybe it's just liberals that think this way, though.

*removed the rest of my post, it was too long and off topic*

The spiritual energy of souls have to be energised at the end of each cycle because the corporeal world is sustained by our spiritual strength. The ancient Hindus had created spiritual theories based on the sciences and theories which might be 'possibilities' of how it might be. This is why they had said that the world is an illusion or that it is based on an illusion. Off course, one can use the existing sciences like how “we only see, touch and hear things based on what the brain interpretes” as one way of explaining this. The 'hologram theory' and the 'ability to create stuff through psychic power' may also be a reason why the ancient people had come up with this theory of the world being an illusion. There may also be others which people are discussing about. But in my opinion, our spiritual strength is also maintaining the corporeal world in existence. One might not be able to prove this because God re-energises us at the end of every cycle and so the corporeal world continues to exist. However, there is a possibility that the ancient people were trying to also say that the corporeal world is based on our spiritual strength and sustenance. This may also be a reason why the ancient people had provided for sustenance through spiritual purity. The sustenance of the corporeal world is through the mechanics of quantum physics. It is also through the use of the mechanics of quantum physics that the greys are being used in the various dimensions.

There are parallel universes, but no one seems to believe

I would like to remark one thing:

---> Theoretical Scientists think, thinking can be highly speculative. We're catched up in a membrane, string, we should see gravitons, etc.

---> Experimental Scientists come after and try to proove or debunk Membranes, Strings and Gravitons.

We need to design an apparatus to see into other dimensions, that would open the doors. I would imagine, that the further into the future they are, the more symbolic that they become, and the closer to the present that they are, the more tangible that they become. Also, when it comes to beings that are immortal, nothing can measure them as they exist in a kind of "perpetual time" - that is, their future eventually loops around and becomes thier past, in a multi-dimensional, multi-stranded manner.