Pictures of the craft responsible for the "Phoenix Lights" from Mt Wilson CAL. over a year later??

This is from mufon today. Im making the connection between phoenix and these pictures. Looks way to similar "the shape" and the general area of the USA", for me not to.


the pics
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/274982d994fe.jpg[/atsimg]ful l picture
and the other
Picture2
The info the poster gave below

Case Number: 27551
Log Number: US-01282011-0009
Submitted Date: 2011-01-28 18:56 GMT
Event Date: 1998-11-15 00:00 GMT
Status: Submitted
City: Pasadena,
Region: California
Country: US
Longitude: -118.1445155
Latitude: 34.1477849
Shape: Triangle
Description:
I was checking out the Mt Wilson observatory webcam as I usually do every evening and the camera was facing toward burbank at the time. I saw the strange V shaped vehicle flying over what it looked like to be burbank. I copied it and kept it on my computer. I enlarged it via the adobe photoshop soft ware and it did not look anything like an airplane to me.

Mufon,
Mount Wilson is one of the better known peaks in the San Gabriel Mountains, part of the Angeles National Forest in Los Angeles County, California where the pics were suposed to be captured.
what do you guys think, easy on the flames

Picture's not very clear but... considering Mount Wilson is within 40-50 miles of 4 major airports- LAX, Burbank/Bob Hope, Ontario and Orange County/John Wayne it's highly likely to be an airplane.

reply to post by abecedarian

That would be a Big airplane just my opinion though.
cant say with absolute certainty that its not

Interesting pics but, can it possibly be just a plane that has been pictured on a long exposed picture? Just my thought!

Good pic but im leaning towards plane myself but who knows..thanks for posting the pic very interisting~~

reply to post by paradiselost333


Well, with nothing to compare against for scale and distance to the object it's hard to say. But I get your point.

And it does look like the picture is a somewhat long exposure.

reply to post by abecedarian


The pic is from a web cam that the guy was watching.
the info said he enlarged it with software, I dont think it is a long exposure just bad quality

And if I've got my bearings straight, the camera was facing approximate WSW, ~250 degrees. The shadow / hill to the left of the object would be "Mount Hollywood", aka Griffith Park, etc. Between the camera and Mount Hollywood would be Glendale, with Burbank to the right and to the left- Pasadena (left foreground) and Los Angeles (left distance).

Google Map

Here's an enlargement courtesy of your friendly neighborhood Number 6:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/476cb609057b.jpg[/atsimg]

Originally posted by paradiselost333
This is from mufon today. Im making the connection between phoenix and these pictures. Looks way to similar "the shape" and the general area of the USA", for me not to.


the pics
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/274982d994fe.jpg[/atsimg]ful l picture
and the other
Picture2
The info the poster gave below

Case Number: 27551
Log Number: US-01282011-0009
Submitted Date: 2011-01-28 18:56 GMT
Event Date: 1998-11-15 00:00 GMT
Status: Submitted
City: Pasadena,
Region: California
Country: US
Longitude: -118.1445155
Latitude: 34.1477849
Shape: Triangle
Description:
I was checking out the Mt Wilson observatory webcam as I usually do every evening and the camera was facing toward burbank at the time. I saw the strange V shaped vehicle flying over what it looked like to be burbank. I copied it and kept it on my computer. I enlarged it via the adobe photoshop soft ware and it did not look anything like an airplane to me.

Mufon,
Mount Wilson is one of the better known peaks in the San Gabriel Mountains, part of the Angeles National Forest in Los Angeles County, California where the pics were suposed to be captured.
what do you guys think, easy on the flames

edit on 28-1-2011 by paradiselost333 because: (no reason given)

The camera is on a long exposure when taking that photo. Thats the reason all the city lights and cars are blurry and it doesnt look like an airplane to the person who took the photo. I just dont think the picture is a true representation of what may actually been there. This person should have sent in the camera settings in the report. It could easily be planes, helicopters, or even incoming planes headed towards the airport.

reply to post by ziggyproductions05


True, but the difference I see is that there is no camera shake whatsoever, to distort anything much, so I would say the object shape seen in image is actually what was there..

Whatever it is, it sure doesn't look like any conventional aircraft either...

Man i really hope that there truly if life out there< it would make life so much more interesting

Originally posted by alienreality
reply to post by ziggyproductions05

 

True, but the difference I see is that there is no camera shake whatsoever, to distort anything much, so I would say the object shape seen in image is actually what was there..

No, the shape of the object in the image (triangle) is due to the exposure of the camera and the different lights on a plane(s), nothing more or less. Not to mention the quality is even worse because its a picture of a computer screen.

Whatever it is, it sure doesn't look like any conventional aircraft either...

i give up

reply to post by ziggyproductions05
Even though you forgot to trim the OP quote I think you're right about everything else.

The lights on the ground have a bloomed effect which is indicative of long exposure which is exactly what you'd expect for a camera imaging lights at night.

If a plane with lights on moves across such an exposure, there are several possibilities of how the aircraft image could be distorted. One possibility is, the aircraft itself is too dim to show up, and it's firing the strobe as it moves across the image, so what we see may be multiple strobe flashes, or similarly it could be the plane lights registering on various pixels on the image sensor, or some combination of those two.

I would add that the shape is NOTHING like the video of the phoenix object nor does it match the shape of the witness descriptions.

reply to post by paradiselost333


It just seeme to me that the "thing" that lowered itself behind those mountains in the original news reels was MUCH farther across that this thingee here in the picture.

Originally posted by akalepos
reply to post by paradiselost333

 

It just seeme to me that the "thing" that lowered itself behind those mountains in the original news reels was MUCH farther across that this thingee here in the picture.

It sounds like you're referring to the 10pm event. That was confirmed to be flares.

brumac.8k.com...

NOTE: the following analysis of March 13, 1997 sightings over Phoenix refers to the sightings by a few people of lights at about 10 PM. An earlier sighting by hundreds of people around 8:30 PM of a dark triangular object that blocked the stars was a UFO.

They are referring to the earlier event around 8:30 which was supposedly photographed in this video at the 40 second mark:


The picture in the OP looks nothing like either event to me.

I agree with the others... this is obviously a long exposure photograph.

A long exposure photograph is much like taking a video of something and then blending all the frames into one frame.

What you think is one large craft is actually one small craft moving over a distance. What you think is multiple lights is actually the same light blinking over a length of time and distance.

For example, here is a long exposure of an aircraft taking off from an airport:



More of nothing for UFOlogy...

Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
I agree with the others... this is obviously a long exposure photograph.

indeed... the pic2 over CA looked nothing like the series of spaced lights, all the same color,
over AZ.
my immediate thought upon seeing pic2 (a bitmap image: why would a frame from a
video cam get stored as a bitmap image?) with the multitude of 'red' orbs intermingled with the
white lights is --> this is the flashing of aircraft lights over a period of time...
amassed into a single image.
the white lights on the images right 'wing' just had enough angle to it that the brain
imagined it to be a long 'wing' from that angle...mere coincidence

[apophenia (finding significance in insignificant phenomena)]

Originally posted by paradiselost333

I was checking out the Mt Wilson observatory webcam as I usually do every evening

I did some more research on the Mt. Wilson Observatory webcam. I turns out that the exposure time is set to auto. At night the exposure time can be up to 16 seconds.

Now read this:
obs.astro.ucla.edu...

Q10: What was that strange light seen on last night's image a UFO?

A: If by "UFO" you mean an alien spacecraft, the answer is: Probably not! Invariably, what Towercam viewers call "UFO's" turn out to be the streak of time-exposed aircraft lights, the overexposed image of the moon, a falling meteor, or some internal lens reflections within the camera.

I am 100% certain it is just a time-exposed aircraft.

source

Even with motion blur with or without shaking from the camera the an important question arises...

Where is the Fuselage? Or if that is indeed the Fuselage where are the wings and lights?