California Residents Hit With Government Ban On Paying By Cash

reply to post by DimensionalDetective


This is worrysome... what if in the next decade or so they completely rid the system of paper money and use just credit and debit. You'll not be able to to purchase, visit, or donate to something without TPTB knowing who, what where and when. Now all we need is a transaction card or an implanted chip that has our personal information, health care issues and financial status and transaction ability all in one. Then we'll be a police state. Control... control.... control... They'll be able to stop people from donating to things such as Wikileaks and Wikipedia if they wanted to. They'll even know what kind of items you like so they'll know exactly what kind of advertising to bombard you with.

Originally posted by dawnstar
gee, the bible doesn't say what we should do if ceaser decides he doesn't want what is his!!!
I've been told by a few people that if you go and try to pay a bill, even patrially, and they refuse the payment, it means that you don't owe the money!1 I don't know if that is true or not...does anyone here?
because, well, if I went to pay my water bill and they didn't accept my cash, I'd be testing that theory!

Then you'll get flagged for some kind of watch list. Get flagged too much and you'll visit the FEMA camps.

They're removing peoples abilities to choose to not use banks.

After the banking crisis, after all the scamming and dodgy deals. Robbing the people of their money, they're now going to FORCE you to put your money in the bank.

and if you try to just keep enough in to pay the bills, they will strategically move the payments so you'll be overdrawn thus incurring more fees, or the payment will be rejected due to insufficient funds, also incurring more fees. They use these methods to punish, poke and prod you into keeping all your money in the bank

reply to post by Xcathdra


That's my thought. "Legal for all debts, public and private" comes to mind.

I read a book back in the 80's called "When Your Money Fails". It talked about a cashless society and how it would lead to taking a "mark" in order to earn or spend. If you didn't have the "mark", you couldn't function. They are clearly using "terrorism" as a launching pad for world control and forcing people to take the mark of the beast.

The contents of the book have played out eerily accurate. In the late 70's early 80's, touch tone phones were still somewhat new. The star and pound keys were unused. Nobody knew what they were for. This book stated that they would be used by computers...and sure enough, that's what they're used for. It was also accurate in predicting a move toward a cashless society. Debit cards didn't exist back then, and viola! Virtually everything we do is cashless.

I fear that this is a sign of things to come. Our government is working toward total control. That's why we aren't allowed to grown our own food. It has nothing to do with safety or anything else. It has to do with control. The Amish are about the only society that has it right. They are debt free, grow their own food, have no need for gasoline and are self-sustaining. This will be the only way to circumvent what is to come.

This should get the red flags going.

Hopefully most Americans won't stand for this siege of our hard earned money.

I myself like cash cause it i can feel it, smell it, taste it if i wanted to. The point is that its tangible like this and I have control (somewhat) over my money.

If money becomes e-money its game over. This is when freedoms will really start to be striped cause they will have total control over us. Sure things might be easier and seem convienient but at what cost.

For safety...... You want safety then every American needs to start practicing thier 2nd amendent right and start straping.

If 99% of Americans had a gun on them you think people would be robbed anymore or half the crimes would still exsit.

sure accidential death may go up but all other crimes would surely go down.

Imagine if this were the case and everone did pack some heat.

Then think, 2 idiots walk into a bank with some guns tring to rob it and thiers 30 people in the bank with there own guns.
the robbers announce thier gonnna rob everyone in the bank and the bank itself.

Instead of being scared, whimpy, soft Americans that we have become over the decades and dropping to floor screaming and praying to god for safety.

Those 30 people would laugh at those 2 fools and all at the same time would pull out there guns and point them right at thier faces and say you better think twice knuckle heads.

You think if this senerio played out more often people would even try these things anymore.

Yeah they probably would still but, because in general people are stupid lets face it. Would it happen as often as it does today

NOT A CHANCE!!!!!

Is there a better source than PP?

I cannot find this news anywhere on the internet?
Also my mother lives in Cali and she just told me that she bought an expresso and paid with cash

reply to post by tamusan


To me, its not whats faster and more convenient for paying with plastic. It's the fact that our own country now is refusing our very own currency that we print? Where do they get the nerve to do this? I live in a little town in Illinois, and I cannot begin to fathom what It would be like out here if that happens. I pay almost all my bills with cash, its simpler, plus I don't like banks. I work in a family-owned gas station/ restaurant and everyday there is someone that comes in that has a problem with a debit card. The bank made an error on their end, now the customer has to spend the next half hour getting that problem resolved before he/she can purchase his 1.48 soda. Wow these people are jokers, someday soon, we "peons" of the U.S are going to have to take a stand like the Egyptians are doing right now! This country use to be the greatest in the world, there's no reason it couldn't go back to that

reply to post by Idotwhat


Hate to have to break it to you, but the corporate global government who rules America, and the world, are pushing very hard to replace physical cash and coins. There are numerous sources on the Internet to prove this, and you can't stop it. It was foretold to happen, and it will!

You mean I'll no longer hear that annoying question at the checkout stand.... "Would you like cash back?" LOL

Solution.... barter people... barter! Oh, umm... but don't forget to pay the tax man a portion of what you gain in the barter process. We wouldn't want to underfund our government.

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective


This is a story to pay attention to. Hopefully this is not a sign of what's to come, or a 'testing ground'.

What impositions such as this reveal to me, especially if carried out or expanded to a broader level, is the absolute CONTROL of the citizens, and the MONITORING of their every transaction.

Not to mention with many people being sick and tired of the nonsense going on with the banks and pulling their monies out, this could also be used as a measure to keep people absolutely ENSLAVED to that system.

Hopefully this is just an isolated instance and location, and not the sign of where we are headed next as a society.

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Maybe I did not understand something. The article seems to say this was a local issue. and residents are distrustful of GOV.

Is this a local ordinance by a community being translated into a GOV imposition on rights when it's really a sign of a local enclave writing their own laws?

this is all just silly fear mongering...if you wish to make a payment with a card and not be traced...just go to any walmart/Safeway/target and get a disposable, debit card loaded up with as much cash as ya need...no names no tracing and usable for all transactions that require debit/credit cards.... making a mountain out of a molehill here.

disco bay is a very small city and yes i can see the conspiracy possibilities here but it could just be a tiny city eliminating staff to close budget shortfalls... not everything is a conspiracy.

reply to post by backinblack


This would be State law (refusing) Federal Government tender which to the best of my knowledge unconstitutional.

Originally posted by Alethea

Originally posted by jrmcleod
reply to post by DimensionalDetective

 

Its a pretty pathetic excuse really, if i lived there and they refused cash from me, which is what a debit card technically is because it can be withdrawn from an ATM, i'd simply not pay the bill and record me trying to pay it by cash...they refuse to take your payment, its their loss, not yours!

Just try that! When you don't pay the bill their way and they shut off your water, then Code Enforcement and the Health Dept will be at your doorstep to remove your children from the home and the next day you will be removed and your home will be barricaded with yellow ticker tape as a health hazard for lack of utilities, etc.

If the mortgage scams and the job losses did not get you they must devise other ways to thin the herd.

Yeah i see where your coming from but if you record you trying to pay for it in cash and you go to court over it then the judge and jury would clearly see you were trying to pay for it. They refuse it so they shut off your water? That isnt right and if i was in a jury i;d vote in favour of the person being victimised. There are people out there who cannot get debit cards because of their credit rating...

It may actually be an attempt to keep illegals from moving to their city.

A lot of mexican culture is extremely suspicious of banks (their government offers little protection from outright theft by banks).

Most illegals are loathe to open a bank account in an assumed name, since this is fraud.

Ergo, to get waste removal and have the water turned on at your rent house, you have to create a paper trail.

reply to post by PsychNurse

Very simple reaction to this ban on cash, blackmarket bardering will replace many commercial activities and metals coins will be an unoffical currency (pennies, nickels, dimes, quarters etc),

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by DimensionalDetective

 

Amazing, a Government department refuses to accept "Legal Tender" that has been issued by the Government..

You know, I think that more folks will understand "you can't believe what you read" after all!

We've got a piece of paper that has these words right on it: "legal tender for all debts, public and private."

But... folks didn't really notice when it changed from being a dollar (a unit of weight measurement) and became a "note." ("This note...")

And all of this is a far cry from "No state shall... make anything but gold and silver a tender..."

So, if folks aren't going to be able to figure it out now, they'll never be able to figure it out (I just hope they too are too stupid to figure out how to vote ;-)

Originally posted by jbmitch
reply to post by backinblack

 

This would be State law (refusing) Federal Government tender which to the best of my knowledge unconstitutional.

You might want to check into that a bit further... state's aren't supposed to take cash in the first place for tender of debts- it's in the Constitution, and you may want to go check that out yourself. (you can just google: constitution no state shall gold silver tender)

reply to post by DimensionalDetective


Why did the "Citizens", Nationals, Americans for petes sake, NOT stand up and boycott the city council? The City Council MUST do what the people WANT them to do or it is an act of treason. I will post court cases later that will explain that the power of government does not rest in it's agents but in the "Soveriegnty of the people"!!!!

What is wrong with this country when the actual Citizens of a community WILL NOT stand up to this oppression? Goddamnit anyway, lets pull our heads out of our rears and stop this INSANITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

reply to post by jbmitch


Come to think of it- the feds aren't following the Constitution... so who cares if the states do either! Its kind of a systemic problem now, from top to bottom, legislative through exec to judicial. A hokey dreamworld where no one is following the written foundation and just making it up as they go.

If anything, I think California is setting a great example for this new era of the 21st Century. They've already (last year?) printed their own money (debt script), and now they aren't accepting the funny-money printed by the federal reserve (at least the physical manifestations of this hell-spawn).

In my business, I don't accept them either! Who wants a federal reserve note??! Even the Chinese are getting a bit of stomach ache from eating too much, and in their culture- they eat everything! So, California is going the way of many of the rest of us and just not accepting the IOU (but Kalifornians haven't yet figured out that the electronic form of the devilry is no less toxic ;-)