Police trained that FEMA camps are perfectly normal

To get to the worlds resources America needed an edge.

So we brought in a bunch of foreigners from around the world such as the Kurd's from Iraq, Lebanese, muslims from around the world, hindu folk, South American peoples....then we gave them US citizenship.

The CIA and Think Tanks figured we could use those people and "apply them" to retain a foot in the door in countries around the world to get to resources we need. The problem is...those people got to America and didn't Melt into the melting pot.

We've got a whole mess of muslims in eastern Pennsylvania stocking weapons and training to kill Americans. We've got muslims in northern New York building training camps and arming up....networks of muslims all over America. We've got the Hindu farmers in California mad they've been getting robbed of their profits and now arming up.....

South America/Central Americans now arming up as well. Drug Cartels have liberated Mexican military machine guns/grenades/missile launchers and now have them stored around America....

It's a perfect storm of foreigners in America that the Federal Government brought in for their own ends....but those foreigners are getting ready to turn against their masters who brought them in. The power brokers in America actually WANTED this...if all those groups do start blowing things up and mass killing Americans...the powers controlling America can finally use it as an excuse to disarm Americans and end the 2nd Amendment.

That's why there are FEMA Camps set up. They are just waiting for the bullets, mortars, and rockets to start flying. It's all been orchestrated.

If the CIA/FBI actually cared about Americans lives they would have busted all those training complexes and illegal weapons stashes of machine guns, grenades, mortars, and missile launchers. But they don't want to.

It's a tool they will let unfold to get their end goal. Disarm citizens. The FEMA Camps will also be used to house Americans that try and defend themselves from those drug cartels, foreigners toting military grade ordinance/machine guns.

Your best bet is to bury your weapons and buy all the ammunition you can get and put it away. Soon Americans will never be able to buy ammunition ever again. You should have screamed last year when Obama gave +1 million foreigners legal US citizenship....or the Clinton era foreigners brought in and given citizenship....when all along those people hate America.

reply to post by daryllyn


It would appear at first glance that, the knowledge, or even the knowing of the whereabouts of these camps have to be " down played " and yet, those upper echelons of power seem to think that we are just dumb citizens who won't get wise?

What's appalling to me, is that there are some, even on ATS, who just don't want to admit the possibility, of the FEMA camps, much less contemplate the idea that their " government" is working against them? Talk about ignorance being bliss~

Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux.....blah, blah, I wish the world were like this....blah blah,....

quote paraphrased for my own amusement

You live in a world all your own obviously; look around I don't see any indication that things are working as you described.... I wish the world were different too; one where food fell from the sky and everyone held hands around a campfire - alas, that is not to be, so I will stick to my beliefs and you are free to have yours. It is unlikely you will understand my thoughts as I do not get yours.

Maybe things should be as you describe; on that we might agree if you were willing to listen - the difference is I am a survivor, I will use the resources available to me to achieve that end one of those resources was the military. I got a lot of excellent training, a great paycheck and combat experience that will ensure my survival should the SHTF.

I hope that hopes and dreams and your personal interpretations of the law will fill your belly and keep you safe from desperate people who know how it is; LoL - Good luck with that.

At least my government "masters" trained me how to plan organize and conduct guerrilla operations - got pretty good at it too over 24 years. They even taught me how to run a network of informants and conduct and effective interrogation. All the while enjoying my job and making a # load of money (about 100k a year actually in the last 4 years - and tax free too in the combat zones; lol!) in the end as well being fairly well placed in the organization - its the damn American dream I say....

Again - I appreciate the paycheck and the retirement it has meant a lot to me and m family; don't be envious of my benefits they are not that great but I guess almost anyone can have them all they have to do is serve. I guess or, one can wish things to be right and vote and make posters and complain or whatever. Jump up and down on the internet and see if that will make things right...

I caution you to not confuse using a system to ones advantage with agreeing with it; the two are not the same. There are things I can effect and things I cannot – I choose to concentrate on and put effort in the former while keeping a close eye on the latter in case the opportunity should arise; which sort of explains my interest in this site.

I was once told I had a borderline personality disorder which manifests itself in having a problem with empathy and a lack of regard for the rules or the rights and liberties of others. I was a little worried at first when the psych docs told me about having some Cluster – B anti-social personality traits; however in the end they actually said it was common in Special Operations not to worry about losing my job or clearance. It's something they are looking for actually.

As it turned out they were spot on; it has in the end been a blessing in disguise I guess - because I have been very successful in my chosen profession. I am easily able to separate fact from fantasy as you seem to be unable to do - as my grandmother said "Ah, but if only ifs and buts were candy and nuts every day would be Christmas".

I have likewise been able to do all manner of things in the name of our government that others would find unsavory – every night as I tuck myself in to sleep I think about whether I have anything to be ashamed of…then I drift off and sleep like a baby.

However, like I said we all have a personal tipping point for action against the system; I have mine and I even laid it out for you. I have never violated any of those rules. I am not a LEO and really don’t want to be – #ty job not enough freedom in their ROE. I would shoot some #head punk for a crime and end up in jail - I miss the Army.

Here is my all time favorite movie scene:




That is justice...when one reaches a tipping point. What is your tipping point?

Originally posted by peter vlar
reply to post by macman

 

living mere minutes away, I can guarantee you there is no FEMA camp located anywhere near saratoga springs.

Been there and around the area for a long time. Never seen anything. But, that does not mean that something is not there. Just because it is not seen, does not mean it does not exist.

reply to post by Whereweheaded


I wonder if the deniers have watched those videos. I just cannot believe that anyone could watch that and not be swayed enough to at least consider the possibilities. I have no doubt in my mind that those facilities exist. I just hope they don't decide they need to use them anytime soon.

reply to post by daryllyn


Believe me, I am not denying the existence of these camps.
I just don't see them being within the prying eye.

Why would the Govt just use current military installations for this?
There would be no need for new construction on a massive size.
I know that Hill AFB in Utah has several huge (3 football length) unused warehouse buildings that could be used for this. They were manufactured during WWII, and are all connected via underground tunnels.

reply to post by Golf66

Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux.....blah, blah, I wish the world were like this....blah blah,.... quote paraphrased for my own amusement

Of course you would paraphrase what I said, because you have all ready demonstrated that you are not interested in what I am saying, and keep insisting I said what I did not say, while steadfastly ignoring what I did say.

Just as "amused" as you claim to be by the truth, so too was the Catholic Church when Galileo advocated a heliocentric universe, as opposed to the geocentric universe the Church insisted was. Just as they did then, you do now, and just as the Church is a survivor, in spite of taking 500 years to exonerate Galileo, this did not make their assertions of a geocentric universe any more correct. They certainly had the brute force to hold Galileo captive, and even had the brute force to kill him and bully him into recanting his decidedly scientific approach, but all that brute force could not keep the truth from remaining the truth.

Amuse yourself all you want, and use ATS as an excuse for mental masturbation all you want. Although, given one who seems to want to declare public urination a crime against humanity, your public masturbation is noticeably obscene. While Galileo did finally recant his assertions of a heliocentric universe, as legend tells it, he also muttered:

And yet it still moves

Galileo was facing extreme pressure from brute force to recant, and even though you huff and puff and make digital pretensions that you are capable of brute force yourself, from this angle here, you appear to be nothing more than an digital tiger, or more correctly, a user pretending to be a tiger. I have no need or reason to recant. All law is universal, this is a characteristic of law. The law of the right to self defense is one of those universal laws, and just as fools will jump off a cliff and desperately flap their arms in the misguided belief they will fly, ignoring the law of gravity, so too will fools ignore the law of the right to self defense and will even codify legislation ignoring that law. This codified legislation can no more refute the law of the right to self defense, than can flapping your arms really, really hard, refute the law of gravity.

Fools are fools, and many are proud to be fools, and a fool loves to act the fool and make jokes and use acronyms such as "lol" quite a bit, but in light of all this, the truth remains the truth, and the Earth still moves.

Originally posted by Jean Paul ZodeauxOf course you would paraphrase what I said, because you have all ready demonstrated that you are not interested in what I am saying, and keep insisting I said what I did not say, while steadfastly ignoring what I did say.

Perhaps that is because in your first response you made accusations of me playing a game of semantics and resorted to name calling as you have demonstrated throughout.

Then you continue to spout nonsense about the way things should be that when slapped in the face with the way things are make no sense.

Like your last post, where the hell did I even refer to one's right to self defense - I am well aware of that right and if the vagrants feel threatened by the law I suggest they use that right against their persecutors. I'll watch for it on the news.

As for being some kind of tiger; I am secure in my abilities which is why I care little for your nonsense about human rights and absolute laws etc. I've been to places where the only law is the gun and without regard to the absolute right or justness of one’s cause the one with the most guns in the end will win any debate.

reply to post by macman


Have you seen the videos I was talking about? I recommend that you watch them, if you haven't already. There is a ton of extremely compelling evidence in it.

I agree that existing facilities could also be used. They probably wasted a lot of money building the ahem "residential" centers.

Twice I have asked now, and not one response to it. I will try one more time,

What do you want fema to do so that you are not suspicious of what they are doing and for what reason?

They must perform drills, in the event of a disaster or catastrophe, they must emlpoy the assistance of local authorities. Having camps ready for people to be taken to makes soooooooo much sense, rather than putting together a spare of the moment plan if say the New Madrid went off, or California finally gets it's big one, or a hurricane destroys a city, ect.

What is a 'normal' action by fema when it comes to preparedness? Why do you think what they do is not normal?

I dont think te cops are so naive. If so, they need to see this:

I am going to take this as a no. I guess no one wants to admit fema has a job to do, demanded to do by the public, that involves doing drills, preparing locations for relocation of disaster victims, ect. Just go ahead and keep on saying that they have no reason to do it other than to arrest citizens and put them into fema camps, my idea must not be as exciting.

reply to post by space cadet


Yes, FEMA did a damn good job during katrina, and my hats off those folks during that crisis. In case it wasn't obvious, that was sarcasm. If you don't know what I am talking about, you probably aren't that informed.

reply to post by TKDRL


Excuse the hell out of me, but my point is that AFTER Katrina, it was realized that fema needed to do more, to be able to act quicker and more effeciently. The problem of what to do when you need to relocate an entire city of people was real and in thier face. Yeah they sucked at it. So now they are getting more prepared, preparing locations to locate victims of disaster, preparing to deal with the dead, preparing local authorities who need to know how to deal with large scale problems such as katrina and 911.

I have been asking everyone on this thread that thinks fema preparation is to arrest everyone and throw them into fema camps, what do they think a normal operation would consist of, or normal preparation for a disaster, and still, not one person here has stated what they would consider to be fema preparing for disaster being 'normal'.

reply to post by space cadet


Well i guess we will have to wait until the next disaster to see how they will do. My guess is they will suck like usual.