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Turkey UFO UPDATE Dr Roger Leir speaks about ET FOOTAGE
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Originally posted by ZetaRediculian
Here the actual facts.
Originally posted by CigaretteMan
Facts we know;
There are over 12 witnesses
The video has been scrutinized many times
There were military personell also watching from the shore
Nobody has yet to debunk the footage.
Well over 12 people perhaps even 30 or forty people debunked this video.
It has been scrutinized many times even by military personell who say this is a hoax.
the video doesn't want to go away.
there are many cases that are far better.
most skeptics and believers don't really seem to care.
Then why has nobody been able to debunk the video.
So far it has not been proven a hoax.
Nobody and I mean nobody buys the "boat" theory I mean we all laugh at that theory.
lol I am laughing right now at that theory
I am still waiting for something plausible.
Until then its not debunked.
but thanks for your comment.
Here the actual facts.
Originally posted by ZetaRediculian
Facts we know;
There are over 12 witnesses
The video has been scrutinized many times
There were military personell also watching from the shore
Nobody has yet to debunk the footage.
Well over 12 people perhaps even 30 or forty people debunked this video.
It has been scrutinized many times even by military personell who say this is a hoax.
the video doesn't want to go away.
there are many cases that are far better.
most skeptics and believers don't really seem to care.
[Originally posted by ZetaRediculian
Here the actual facts.
Well over 12 people perhaps even 30 or forty people debunked this video.
FALSE ---there has yet to be a credible debunking ------notice you have no link to support your theory
It has been scrutinized many times even by military personell who say this is a hoax.
FALSE----if so please provide a link----until then your comment is unsubstantiated
the video doesn't want to go away.
TRUE ---and it shouldn't go away and it never will
there are many cases that are far better.
TRUE----but this case is one of the best and most interesting
most skeptics and believers don't really seem to care.
FALSE----there are many who are interested and since you are a skeptic you must care enough to follow this thread.
Originally posted by ZetaRediculian
Here the actual facts.
Originally posted by CigaretteMan
Facts we know;
There are over 12 witnesses
The video has been scrutinized many times
There were military personell also watching from the shore
Nobody has yet to debunk the footage.
Well over 12 people perhaps even 30 or forty people debunked this video.
It has been scrutinized many times even by military personell who say this is a hoax.
the video doesn't want to go away.
there are many cases that are far better.
most skeptics and believers don't really seem to care.
Their are many videos on this site that rebut every one of your unconfirmed claims. next time, show a little proof,
instead of firing from the hip with blanks.
There are many more threads that 'but' my claims also. Why do I have to show proof and links when you and cancerman don't have to? I watched the video and its ridiculous. There is no evidence I have seen that convinces me this is a flying thing of any kind. Do you have proof or links? If not, I will post anything I want.
Originally posted by zigoapex
Originally posted by ZetaRediculian
Here the actual facts.
Originally posted by CigaretteMan
Facts we know;
There are over 12 witnesses
The video has been scrutinized many times
There were military personell also watching from the shore
Nobody has yet to debunk the footage.
Well over 12 people perhaps even 30 or forty people debunked this video.
It has been scrutinized many times even by military personell who say this is a hoax.
the video doesn't want to go away.
there are many cases that are far better.
most skeptics and believers don't really seem to care.
Their are many videos on this site that rebut every one of your unconfirmed claims. next time, show a little proof,
instead of firing from the hip with blanks.
Nobody and I mean nobody buys the "boat" theory I mean we all laugh at that theory.
lol I am laughing right now at that theory
LMFAO ROFL!!!!!! I mean right now I'm actually on the floor laughing! And rolling!!!! Everyone laughs that people think this is a space ship from outer space with aliens. I mean really?
Originally posted by CigaretteMan
most skeptics and believers don't really seem to care.
FALSE----there are many who are interested and since you are a skeptic you must care enough to follow this thread.
No, I am a believer who is tired of BS, ridiculous videos.
My opinion on the authenticity of the video aside, one thing I have never understood is this:
If we are supposed to believe that there are little grey men looking out from this "saucer", why are they exposed to the air? Do alien saucers have exposed cockpits like our biplanes did in the early 20th century?
The video claims its a "porthole" but it's not.... It's a little section cut out at the VERY top of the "saucer", that is completely exposed.
Could anyone who is a proponent of the authenticity of the video clarify that for me? or show me what I'm missing with a visual representation?
To illustrate:
If those are aliens, not only are their heads protruding ABOVE the craft (indicating an open cockpit of sorts), but they are jammed so close together and the craft is so small in proportion to their bodies that the whole thing doesn't make sense in the first place.
If we are supposed to believe that there are little grey men looking out from this "saucer", why are they exposed to the air? Do alien saucers have exposed cockpits like our biplanes did in the early 20th century?
The video claims its a "porthole" but it's not.... It's a little section cut out at the VERY top of the "saucer", that is completely exposed.
Could anyone who is a proponent of the authenticity of the video clarify that for me? or show me what I'm missing with a visual representation?
To illustrate:
If those are aliens, not only are their heads protruding ABOVE the craft (indicating an open cockpit of sorts), but they are jammed so close together and the craft is so small in proportion to their bodies that the whole thing doesn't make sense in the first place.
Originally posted by IMSAM
it WAS an alien cruise liner visiting planet earth
seriously let this thing die.It was explained thoroughly i might add here
Besides this akdogan guy is in the same boat with Maussan
It was a good effort to get some attention for the tourist period
To be honest, I agree. I just want the "believers" opinions in regards to what I have pointed out.
Originally posted by freelance_zenarchist
To go from this,
to this
is rather funny.
That is indeed hilarious. Stupidest thing I've ever seen. I guess gray alien space ships don't need cockpits and they do their abductions and experiments in a 3x3 open air space despite abductee testimony?
edit on 24-9-2012 by DeadSeraph because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by CigaretteMan
I fixed your picture. Can you point out how this is flying? I'm really lost on this point. To me this looks like a reflection of some sort.
Originally posted by freelance_zenarchist
To go from this,
to this
is rather funny.
Is that for real? What happend to that one dudes hands? And people laugh at the boat explanation?
Originally posted by CigaretteMan
Alot of information at this website
turkeyufocase.blogspot.com...
So if it's on a blog, it must be true?
"The objects in the footage have the structure of a specific material that is definitely not made up by any kind of computer animation, balloon, prop, model, or special effects used for simulation in a studio."
The Science and Technology Research Board of Turkey
This as far as I got. So according to "The Science and Technology Research Board of Turkey", it could be a boat.
www.alcione.org...
The webpage then goes on to claim that "the official report stated" the following:
"The objects sighted in the aforementioned footage that have a structure that is made of specific material are definitely not made up by any kind of computer animation nor are they any form of special effects used for simulation in a studio or for a video effect therefore in conclusion it was decided that the sightings were neither a mockup or hoax."
The reality is that the TUBITAK report did _not_ "state" this, and its conclusion is not at all "historic".
All it concludes is that the video is probably a straightforward video of some object reflecting light rather than computer- generated SFX (although it qualifies even this by noting that inconsistencies in the date/time stamps "raise a suspicion about the validity of the time in which the recordings were made", implying some digital manipulation). But it certainly does _not_ conclude, as claimed by Sirius, "that the sightings were neither a mockup nor a hoax".
This is what it concludes (Sirius's translation):
"In conclusion, even though a detailed analysis of the footage is conducted, it might still remain unidentified. Hence, other reference objects need to be recorded in the same frame with the disputable object and further shootings need to be done by ourselves with special equipment in the same location and conditions.
"Accordingly, the term 'UFO' (Unidentified Flying Object) which has been used for these sort of dubious objects can also be used for these objects. But this definition does not mean that these objects are from extraterrestrial (flying saucer etc.) origin."
In other words, the TUBITAK representative can't say anything except that the video appears to show a "disputable object" or a "dubious object" of some sort but contains no useful information that could help determine what it is.
Have you checked and verified all the "information" on the blog?
edit on 24-9-2012 by ZetaRediculian because: (no reason given)
Cross reference of Dr Roger Liers extraterrestrial and the alleged Roswell extraterrestrial.
anonfiles.com...
This is what Dr Roger Lier says about the footage in his own words.
www.youtube.com...
anonfiles.com...
This is what Dr Roger Lier says about the footage in his own words.
www.youtube.com...
It is a stretch to superimpose the shape of the UFO onto the cruiseliner; there's no real resemblance. What then of the "cruise liner" shifting its
shape?
Dr. [of podiatry] Roger Leir speaks about ET FOOTage.
edit on 13-3-2013 by draknoir2 because: (no reason given)
Get ready for another hoax!
This case will be similar to this one:
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