Nancy Lieder,ZetaTalk, Harold Camping 5/21/2011 The End come and gone yet we are still here

I can't help but to look at ZetaTalk. Zetatalk.com Nancy Lieder has made an Empire from her "Zeta Talks". Yes she claims to have given up her job and some health to bring the warning word of DOOM for told to her by the ZETA's.
Her are some of what you can find on ZT.

CONFIRMED - 20 Foot Elevation Drop Java CoastlinePosted by Nancy Lieder on January 24, 2011 at 4:24pm
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.Via Google Satellite maps, which periodically refresh their images over a region. They did Java recently, apparently, as it shows the flooding reported as recently as January 18, 2011 where 11,600 houses were suddenly inundated by what the press called a 'tsunami'. Comparing these actual images, where the flood waters over the land can be seen, to the projection for a 20 foot elevation loss shows that this amount of sinking has occurred! We will likely not see fresh images from Indonesia in the future, as I think this was a programmed refresh, and the program will not be changed. My guess

My guess is there is some kind of drive from within that causes poeple to cling to these kinds of beliefs. We are free ofcourse to think and believe what we want but what about how we effect others. Influence is what I am talking about. what drives people to buy into this hokey pokey. Do people need a to gravitate to a GURU?
Many like Dan Eden from viewzone.com Changed lives and moved to safe places buying into this now debunked earth change. Dan's story can be read here.viewzone.com/discussion[url=http://]viewzone.com/zeta333 In this article Dan Eden lays it all out about Nancy and the Zeta's
My guess is there is some kind of drive from within that causes poeple to cling to these kinds of beliefs. We are free ofcourse to think and believe what we want but what about how we effect others. Influence is what I am talking about. what drives people to buy into this hokey pokey. Do people need a to gravitate to a GURU?

Now lets have a look at Harold Camping. Back in 1993 I got turnrd on to HC's talk radio showfamily radio.com where there is an open forum which people could ask Harold about different bible scriptures and he would answer.They were good answers. He wrote a bokk "1994" where he layed out Gods Plan to end the world in 1994...well I dont know about you but I for one am still here. So is Harold. and like Nancy Lieder he has a new date. May 21st 2011...Yeah I know right around the corner.

Here is what you may not think about when you hear about these clowns and their prophecies.MONEY! CASH MONEY! In the mail green cash by the millions. Unreported cool green cash. If I can download a yt vid see Harold Campings response to just that question. If this vidio doesnt work out Harold responds with an answer that People are free to give what they want and he isnt responsible to give back in case nothing happens on May 21st.

So what about the 12/21/2012 dateline... I am suspect to believe that that date will also come and go. Who knows!!

LOL AHAHA I didn't even know Zeta was still around I figured when she tried for like the 4th time to predict the end they would of been like hmmm... something is wrong apparently not. I think she doesn't even believe in this stuff, she gets paid that all that matters buy this buy this buy this, even most of the links that were once free you have to pay for now. Granted it's human nature to want to know what's out there, where we stand, what comes after the end, is there and end. It annoys me to know end that people will actually prey on this.

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This is a good thing right? Yet ... she provides outside links which report the symptoms ... I'm keeping an eye, granted a small eye, on those areas. I don't know much about her and only noticed her once I heard about the Indonesia/Australian flooding.

Yesterdays sattalite photo's were quit freightening.

I have zero knowledge of Harold Camping ... I'll have to look him up.

please excuse my poor spelling

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Oh yeah,and her Jan.21 - 25th 7 of 10 movement came and went. What is remerkable about these people is when their dateline expires they lose the audience...New prediction + new audience = $$$ BANK $$$ cash

The Zeta talk thread was started my myself.
The diagrams and data,seem to be official data from goverment sources.

If the bottom of the pacific is altering in any way, with the amount of other activity present,vulcanism, earthquakes,etc.....It is wise to pay attention, regardless who calls this to ones attention.
Take it all with a bucket of salt, but the information if correct, indicates something is happening regardless how large or negligable the effects will be .
It is wise to seek verification of all information,
This world is run on the lies used by those who desire to manipulate.
As well as the facts shared to inform, and provide basis for extrapolation.
There are lots of truths mixed in with the falsehoods we get from all sources.
Our job is to take it all in and come up with some sense of it.
Somehow.
Though the site has a history of dessapointing the end of the worlders,this pacific information,seems to fit in with other phenomena, and should not be totally discounted out of hand.
Anyways EVEN BROKEN CLOCK IS RIGHT TWICE A DAY is it not?

Zeta Talk is now directly linked to a poleshift cult that appears headed up by a person named Gerard Zwaan. They and the ZT folks intimately linked on a number of core tenets.

But more than any of that, Zwaan like ZT, demand a strict code of obedience and issue orders on what can and cannot be spoken of within the cult's membership. One recent memo sent out to the group forbade speaking of the possibility that Betelgeuse could go nova and crate a sort of second sun in the sky.

This all being said, though, the poleshifters are producing regular reports of geological events across the globe... so there does some to be a degree of sincerity, at least from some ranking members.

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Wow, it's creepy how cult-ish these groups can get. That's more unsettling than most conspiracy theories.

I don't doubt their sincerity, though; and do believe they are really trying to make sense of the world as they see it. We all are, really. But still ... (shiver)

Originally posted by Ikema
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This is a good thing right? Yet ... she provides outside links which report the symptoms ... I'm keeping an eye, granted a small eye, on those areas. I don't know much about her and only noticed her once I heard about the Indonesia/Australian flooding.

Yesterdays sattalite photo's were quit freightening.

I have zero knowledge of Harold Camping ... I'll have to look him up.

please excuse my poor spelling

Dont worry I think the spelling police quit a couple of years ago. Oh I watch and take a look at Indonesia under water and Australia under water. Well Australia getting 460mm of water in a week. No wonder. Same with Indonesia. Rain!!
Nancy spilled that the end was between Jan 21st and the 25th well guess what. South America is still in the same place and its the 26th in the Orient..... NO SALE!!!

Originally posted by mother1138
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Wow, it's creepy how cult-ish these groups can get. That's more unsettling than most conspiracy theories.

I don't doubt their sincerity, though; and do believe they are really trying to make sense of the world as they see it. We all are, really. But still ... (shiver)

Can you imagine the money that pours into Nancy Lieder's P.O. Box. Every Day.. In Ingo Swann's "Penetration" he tells a tale you can either ,with his blessing, Believe or Not. After the tale is weaved he then goes into the deep psychology involved in "The Spin" This book is out there in the web on pdf but to buy it is like $300 plus...it is a good read and an eye opener.

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Thanks for your comments. While things are shaking in the Pacific and really always have been ,right, If the N.pole is shifting at the rate they say it has been over as long as it has been, we would be seeing the stars in the southern hemisphere.And I might add the sun and moon are coming up in the same places they always have been. ZT is a classic case of someone yelling fire when there is a burn barrel next door.Oh No you don"t...Burn Barrel has a screen on it.

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OP's edit after 4hr. window For Dan's story or after getting to viewzone.com check the editors notes at the top of the page...sorry for the address not working

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Hey no problem, and yeah thats the way I see it, the whole universe constantly changes, from the biggest star to the tiniest atom. Who's to say what is natural and what is not, we're a fairly young race and haven't been around for eons. People get some wrapped up if say a dry spell happens when in their life time its never been dry. Or anything, they always say in my so so years its never been like this. Or when animals die, I'm not saying they might not be right, or there might not be something sinister going on, and I'm not saying we should ignore it but getting up in arms about every little thing seems to be the fast track to being at best ripped off by some con artist, or at worst an early grave.

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we are not by todays standards promised a lifetime...but yeah we want it to be,Ok for real, I want to go at 74 in the middle of a swing on the golf course. Yeah thats how I want to go!!! The world as big as it is and all the problems, I can deal with 25 more years of this BEAUTIFUL Blue Sky, Moon Lite Nights, and jumping into a Cool Pool of water. Living 49years I know I dont always get what I want.....(a good song indeed) there you go ..the real me

The willingness of people to believe in failed claims can be underscored by the Millerites. This guy Miller decided there was a code in the Bible to give the date when the world would end. The date he computed came and went. Then another day came and went. Still he had his ardent believers. Two religious sects sprang from his claims.

That sounds just like Zeta talk and pole shift cults and all of the other fringe malarkey that floats around from Icke to Sitchin to Hapgood to Hancock and Berlitz. No matter how many failures these people have,no matter how overwhelming the evidence is against their claims there are always the stalwart believers that cannot be shaken in their faith that there simply has to be something to the nutty and illogical ideas espoused by these people.

The historical example of Millerism is a good lesson and maybe some people will realize that these claims are simply the words of snake oil sales people.

Millerism

... many Millerites sold all of their earthly possessions.

These people were taken in by someone that was either a con man or a nut. Regardless of Miller's state of mind, these people lost everything and waited for an event that was as fake and unfounded as anything described in the hoax called 2012.

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That makes sense as to why I have just been suspended from their site LOL!

They went on about a second sun being spied in Manchester, with a video of this event. I posted a genuine query under "reply" asking something along the lines of "Isn't Betelguese supposed to go supernova anyday now? Perhaps it's that" That was removed within two minutes.

That site smacks of pure "obey and believe us or you are evil" - disagree with anything they say and your posting is immediately removed - within minutes, that is, not until somebody reports it by the way.

Genuine questions are not encouraged and neither are doubts voiced that are genuine. They remind me of a Communist state and cause their members to live off fear.

False Prophet springs to mind and I have told them so.

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Nancy's Zeta's did say to watch the Amboy Crater (along Interstate 40 in the Mojave Desert).
Right now, dutchsince is reporting seeing radar returns from a lava bed - old volcano venting out steam , approx 50 miles from there on the same fault line even.
The USGS even came out and 'tried to debunk Dutch', but everyone can see the radar returns.
While I think Nancy is in the employee of the CIA/NSA she does get it right every now and then.
But she still loves her Al Gore and President Obama, so she is till foolish.

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So what is a radar return supposed to me?

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a broken clock is accurate twice a year also