Is It Strange That FEMA Wants to Buy 140 Million Packaged Meals with a Shelf Life Only 36 Months?

reply to post by GhostLancer
I understand them planning ahead but spending $ 560,000,000 on something that only had a shelf life of 36 months is not very smart. Even if they ask the contractors to have them ready and after 36 months if they are not used the contractors can sue. I know they have to be smarter than that. Wasting taxpayers money is not the smart thing to do in our economic situation right now.

thats going to waste alot of money right?? surely fema doesnt want to waste money so definately got to be something to it no1 jus throws money away without having a good reason to well thats what i think

Is there a way for you to go back and see if DHS and FEMA ran these drills before major events took place? And if so what how long before the events happened were the drills placed. We could start seeing a pattern here of maybe our government knowing of an event before it happens now I'm not saying they know the details but they may have a system in place that cam give a pretty darn close in ball park layout of what ,kinda where and kinda when as well. Just a thought.

reply to post by burntheships


Well, 7 million could be more or less the population affected by whatever math they've done. Perhaps there is some sort of equation that deals with average population density, maximum severity of a disaster, probability that a certain amount of the population would be destitute after such a max disaster. I would think that in any given area, whether it be a hurricane, a bad ice storm, an earthquake, a nuclear explosion or "terrorist" event, not everyone in a given region will be left with no means for survival. Not all of the population of New Orleans was left to need support in the streets, only the poorest and worst off. In a hurricane, not all areas flood, not all houses are destroyed. In an earthquake not all areas are affected the same based on what the structures are built on. Etc...

The most earthquakes in Arkansas before 2010 was 175 quakes; in 2010 there were over 600. With the majority of them just between where the birds and fish died. within a 25 mile radius. Guy Ar. has have 500 quakes alone. The birds are kinda like the birds in the coal mine. When they start dying everyone should get out. An enviornmental specilist said everyone should leave the area, only his warning was on a comment to an articile. Guy, Arkansas is really close to the New Madird and the Madird have been really active this year. Here is a link to the New Madrid fault. At the bottom of the map it says 871 quakes on this map. Well over have been in Arkansas.

folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu...

reply to post by JustinIowa

I don't see anything "routine" about wasting 10's of millions of our dollars on this crap. This is ATS not the NYT or Wash. Post. We do ufo's , conspiracy and # like that. Go back to facebook if you don't like "doom".

Originally posted by Quadrivium
IMO they have an excess of tax payer dollars they need to dump, and quick in order to get more funds they can squander. The Gooberment has a nasty habit of spending the money they don't need to justify keeping the tax rates up. I guess they look at it like kind of an insurance policy. If they do not use the money......they just might have to give some back..... oh my....that will never do.

Its true I am in the military and towards the end of the year if we have not spent all of out allotted money, we go on a spending spree. I have seen furniture that was purchased the year prior replaced, Plasma tvs that have never been used put up, ect. It is the "Gooberments" fault though. I we don't spend the money then our budget gets cut the next year. And sometimes that means soldier do not get the uniform items needed for harsh weather or tools need to do the job they are intended to be doing. Until they fix such things fraud waste and abuse of tax payers money will continue.

reply to post by tsloan
The gov, website doesn't say anything about a drill. If it was a drill they would not need all those meals.



" The purpose of this Request for Information is to identify sources of
supply for meals in support of disaster relief efforts based on a catastrophic disaster event within the New Madrid Fault System for a survivor population of 7M to be utilized for the
sustainment of life during a 10-day period of operations. FEMA is considering the following specifications (14M meals per day):" quote from site.

Link to gov. site
www.fbo.gov...
s=opportunity&mode=form&id=eaea338540a0aea155a48a650a077352&tab=core&_cview=0

hey folks, that faultline moved early in the 1800s, and it moved MASSIVLY!! i read a book called "the fronteersmen" and it told the story of the ohio river valley and the shawnee named tecumseh he fortold of an impending earthquake that would shake the ground all over, his prophesy came true!, the madrid fault shook for over 3 days!......lakes drained instantly and it actualy moved the the mississippi river!!


so that faultline is very dangerous!!


just adding what i know about it


be safe people

Originally posted by stealthXninja
Hello! When I first read this I thought it sounded like food for millions of people... I did a little math and what I came up with was that 140,000,000 meals to last for 36 months would only feed approximately 3,500 people 3 meals a day... Maybe it's not as big as it sounds?

Maybe not? A question, if 140,000,000 meals only feeds 3600, 3 meals/day for 3 years, how are they going to choose which ones to feed? Lottery? Olympic games, (giving food as reward)? Gladiator type sports events? Medical research? Seems to me they might even ration the rations. Feed 140,000 once per 4 to 6 weeks, give them water once per week. The human body can last up to 4 to 6 weeks without food and about a week without water.This will lend to many thrilling hours of reality HD TV, fed by private satellite, so that the elite can view the unfolding human drama. Sanction their food and water rations for work: "Arbit macht frei!"

well here is 2 more links that i hope you find of interest on this, www.newmadrid2011.org... and let me see if this one works, it does and then this one
www.ceri.mephis.edu...
and let me check this one out







sory i can not get the last one to work




wella ny way i tried to get it to work it is CERI seismic info, i guess this one i just one of them links.

reply to post by gr82m8okdok
The gov. site says they expect about 7 million survivors, they do not say how many fatalities they expect. But St. Louis and Memphis could be total. People living there know that. The people in Memphis know the reality of what could happen. Plus my granddaughter in a paratrooper in the Army and she has been on watch (stand by) since before Christmas, Not for terrorism, but for a homeland natural disaster. When she told me this before Christmas, I told her to come get Nana, if the New Madrid got a big quake. She is stationed in S. C.

Originally posted by sjrily
HEY WAIT!

I got to thinking - are we talking 7 million people or 7 thousand people? We often use the letter M for thousand (Roman numeral). Maybe that makes more sense? I know a major quake here will do a lot of damage, but 7 millon people without the means to feed themselves?

I think it's 7,000 - maybe. Can anyone else find any (credible) numbers on estimated homeless?

edit on 1/23/11 by sjrily because: maybe

You could be right usually I see it written as 7m for thousand and 7mm for millions on contracts for fuel.

I am showing up late for the prom here, forgive me.

Where are most of the 'FEMA coffins' storage areas located? I seem to remember one location being in Georgia.
Is there a chance that most of them are pre-positioned just outside of the NMF zone?

I think that the only big "SHOCKER" to this story is that FEMA is actually doing its job for once.

I'm glad they are, and here's why:

When disaster strikes, the more idiots who didn't prepare themselves will now get fed by FEMA, instead of coming around my house looting for food stuffs. This way I don't have to use as much ammo to fight back the mob!

Originally posted by sjrily
VERY interesting...

FEMA "will simulate the catastrophic nature of a major earthquake in the central United States region of the New Madrid Seismic Zone" in May 2011.

FEMA National Level Exercise 2011

National Level Exercise NLE 2011 Private Sector Participation

I'm going to read your links now...

The government does this drill every 10 years or so. In know the navy/air force did a big drill 10+ years ago about the New Madras giving loose. Could be that but with the poles shifting, Yellowstone swelling, who knows...

Originally posted by gr82m8okdok

Originally posted by stealthXninja
Hello! When I first read this I thought it sounded like food for millions of people... I did a little math and what I came up with was that 140,000,000 meals to last for 36 months would only feed approximately 3,500 people 3 meals a day... Maybe it's not as big as it sounds?

Maybe not? A question, if 140,000,000 meals only feeds 3600, 3 meals/day for 3 years, how are they going to choose which ones to feed? Lottery? Olympic games, (giving food as reward)? Gladiator type sports events? Medical research? Seems to me they might even ration the rations. Feed 140,000 once per 4 to 6 weeks, give them water once per week. The human body can last up to 4 to 6 weeks without food and about a week without water.This will lend to many thrilling hours of reality HD TV, fed by private satellite, so that the elite can view the unfolding human drama. Sanction their food and water rations for work: "Arbit macht frei!"

edit on 1/24/2011 by gr82m8okdok because: numbers

Uh, how does a 36 month-shelf-MRE last 3 years?

reply to post by burntheships


After Katrina, FEMA was criticized hugely for their unpreparedness. Then when they do what it is they are supposed to do and prepare properly, they are suddenly part of giant conspiracies. They store supplies, it's for FEMA Death Camps, they store food and blankets, it's a giant conspiracy to hide a pending disaster. They store supplies someplace, it's proof they are getting ready to round us up and put us in their Death Camps.

My Theory? No matter what FEMA does it will be either criticized or accused of being part of a giant conspiracy, so it really does not matter what they do; they will be under siege either way they go.

The downside? It's takes attention away from the real conspiracies in government and agencies like Homeland Security that are out of control and truly pose a threat.

The bottom line is these meals are for the American people, for when the military herds all the citizens into these camps. I used to think it would take at least decades for this to happen, but with all the recent unrest and the rise of China I am not so sure anymore.

reply to post by Blaine91555


It is my understanding that FEMA oversight is DHS.
As shown here in this chart.

www.whorunsgov.com...