Things they refuse to teach in america

There are some very important matters in america,that they refuse to teach.
Why do they refuse to teach,some of the most important matters?
Because it would have a positive influence on the masses and a negative influence on the rich getting richer.

1.children-they refuse to teach,that if a man has a child,he will pay a minimum of 250$ child support a month,that minimum is if he makes minimum. While the mother collects free resources from several suppliers,the father will be left out in the cold,if the mother is a spoiled rotten person like most women are in todays society. 1. The mother will collect free food from wic,that the father has no right to eat. 2.the mother will collect 3000 dollars a year on top of child support from income tax,once again the father has no right. 3. The mother can collect food stamps,roughly 200 dollars a month that the father has no right to (he will purchase his own food,from the money he has left AFTER he pays support.)4. The mother has a right to free housing,all bills including rent total 60 dollars a month (in my area). So,where does all this support go to,if they get all their food free,housing free,and at the end of the year a free 3000 to do whatever they want with,were does all the support go? probably to the corner bar.


Now,why do they refuse to teach about this?
1.it keeps men working their whole lives in america.
2.If they refuse to work they are tracked down, until they are thrown in jail,where they will keep the jail house running and the police mens paychecks coming in.Because they will be forced into the work-release program until they pay enough money to get out.

They need to rename the show, 16 and living free until the child is 18.

Second thing that they refuse to teach in america

2. If you marry a woman,and she is not completely satisfied with you. In america this gives her the right to leave you and take you for alimony or all-i-money or all-ur-money. This process called allimony that any married woman has the right to. Takes half your pay and gives it to your wife. Now,if you two have a child together,she can and will,take you for child support and alimony at the same time.

Now why do they not teach people about the marriage system and alimony in america?

again,it keeps men working their whole lives.

Now,i suggest that if you have any boys in the family you teach them about these two subjects before it ruins their lives completely and has them living a completely selfless life.

From personal experience,i know that if you get caught up in either of these,or both at the same time. You will be forced to work a full time job,and have a few roomates just to pay the bills.

And what kind of other woman would want you?while you're paying that.

It will put you in the most miserable,desolation you could imagine.

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There are some very important matters in america,that they refuse to teach

Well as for the matters of procreation and child support. If you dont want to pay child support dont screw around
Or if you dont want to pay alimony dont get married, its a logical choice. Why should it be tout if you are a grown adult with the mental capacity of and adult it should be obvious.

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I've never seen such a large grouping of misconceptions and fallacies all jumbled up and spewed out in one location before.

The Hilllbilly is spot on!

ETA: about 90% of the above mentioned could be avoided with a bit of common sense,

Yeah it's a shame really. I know women who are into all kinds of drugs, starting fights, going in and out of jail and they completely take advantage of this system. Even with all the BS on their records the system is STILL on their side. Go figure.
Unfortunately the only way to know how it works is by first hand experience, or through someone else getting screwed three times backwards and I don't see them ever changing that.

Jerry said it best

Originally posted by SLAYER69
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I've never seen such a large grouping of misconceptions and fallacies all jumbled up and spewed out in one location before.

The Hilllbilly is spot on!

Slayer, I agree with you on almost all issues so far. However here I must guess you have never been divorced. I took care not to have children until I got married. I waited until I was 35 to get married, waiting until I thought I found the right one. Boy was I wrong. The whole system is weighted against men and towards women.

They also don't teach civics in America anymore.

Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
Slayer, I agree with you on almost all issues so far. However here I must guess you have never been divorced. I took care not to have children until I got married. I waited until I was 35 to get married, waiting until I thought I found the right one. Boy was I wrong. The whole system is weighted against men and towards women.

I "was" married before for 17 years and have two wonderful children from said marriage.


However I take responsibility for my part in it's successful years as well as my part in what went wrong. I've learned from it. I'm getting older and find myself less and less focusing on the faults of others and take care to clean my side of the street more and stay out of others baggage.

Including the ex wifes.

Child support sucks yet I was responsible for their well being whether I was in the home or not. Those are my children and I manned up and did what was needed for them. Which I believe is the way it should be.

Alimony also sucks but that varies from State to State.

You do realize that if the women is a loose cannon or nut that the man can file for custody of the child? Then he will be the one making child support.

Also, if the female in the marraige has more money then the male will reap the benefits of allimoney. Kevin Federline anyone? Also, if you think you have a gold digger on your hands and you still think this hussy is the one, you can slap her with a pre-nup. You have plenty of outs so to say, the biggest one being: DONT MARRY A SKEEZ.

Sounds like you have resentment because you got into a situation that was over your head. I never learned about that stuff in school, but I've always known about it.

Should schools waste time and money teaching males common sense? No way. Talk about a waste of time and money.

There are lessons to be learned in this thread. Wrap your weiner, and pre-nup or shut up.

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Like you,i also planned it all out,holding a VERY good job. With benefits,401k,overtime,double time and was making more than minimum wage by a good shot. Now the other guy says "ETA: about 90% of the above mentioned could be avoided with a bit of common sense" now,sir you have to realise,my child was planned,with all the benifits of the above said job,and it still didnt work. O and keep in mind the economy was good at the time,a great time to plan a child. But guess what,we are people,we are not god,and I just made this thread to warn people of the facts,the very facts the system you know and love runs by.

This poster,i just replied to seems to know how things work. And if you havent personally gone through this system and paid child support and/or alimony, then your opinion is probably less than an opinion,if the said opinion is based off fact.

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Im almost embarassed for the Op, he seems like he has a problem with this subject. My Mom raised us three boys all alone, my dead beat dad went into hiding. I remember her struggling so much to get by, I even get tears sometimes remembering the times I have heard her crying in her room. Its situations like this that has happend millions of times and the system got sick of it, so hence the laws.
Common sense for sure, if you cannot be man enough to stick with it, dont do it.

However, there are some men out there that are manipulated. I have a friend who pays child support, but she was the one who ran off and cheated and squandered all the money. She was the one that ruined their lives. Currently she remarried and her and her new man make a combined $160,000 a year, and she still has the nerve enough to ask the court for more money, she totally greedy.

There are victims and there are perps!

Hence, the all too well known saying amongst American Men. ....

" Its cheaper to keep her. "

These are all fallacies. Some men are the bastards that leave the women with 3 children and though they should be paying child support and alimony cause they have craploads of money, they also happen to get the best lawyers and pay the very minimal child support and no alimony whatsoever.
Don't be mad at the lady, be p o'ed at the lawyer, he obviously didn't do his job. Then again, you get what you pay for, cheap lawyer means most likely gonna screw you and run off with the money you paid him.

Disagree. You don't want a woman to take half your earnings? Don't marry her.
Don't want to pay child support? Don't do the things that create children.

Honestly, everyone is working these days. This isn't 1935. Most women have careers and if they don't it's their own fault. The whole system is keeping EVERYONE working until they drop.

It's pretty offensive that a few people on this thread feel that someone only gets "screwed" in these situations because of a "lack of common sense", or because they didn't "wrap their wiener", or didn't get a pre-nup,etc etc
I can only speak for myself, but here's what happened to me: In a relationship with someone for 10 years, married last 5 of it.We are (supposedly) in love, blah blah. Mutually agreed to have a child together.A year and 2 months after my daughter is born, my wife tells me she wants a divorce.When I ask her the reason why, she says "I feel like I'm losing myself..." When I ask her well what the hell does THAT mean??' Her reply is:"I don't know how to put it into words so you'll understand..."
So, here I sit in my one bedroom apartment, eating Hot Pockets,working my ass of 50hrs a week,struggling paycheck to paycheck, so that I can make sure the ex gets her child support check every month, yet she owns her own home, makes more money than I do, is buying Wii systems,etc etc

Originally posted by SLAYER69I "was" married before for 17 years and have two wonderful children from said marriage.

I also have 2 great kids. I would not trade them for anything. My point was ans is that the system is very weighted towards the female. Simply that.

However I take responsibility for my part in it's successful years as well as my part in what went wrong. I've learned from it. I'm getting older and find myself less and less focusing on the faults of others and take care to clean my side of the street more and stay out of others baggage.

We were together for 10 years, 7-8 of them were good. Then she changed. Even her own family agrees that she is not the same person she was.

Child support sucks yet I was responsible for their well being whether I was in the home or not. Those are my children and I manned up and did what was needed for them. Which I believe is the way it should be.

I have no problem with that, in theory. It is the practice that pisses me off. When we first separated, we had a good system. I would take the kids and get them whatever they needed, whenever they needed it. But later on it became all about the cash. She just wanted me to hand her money. We finally ended up going to court over it, and at first she was going to get an award much lower than what I had been spending on the kids. She bitched and whined to the judge about that, so the judge took the average of what I had been spending on my kids and awarded her that which was 150% of what the mandated child support level for my income level would have been. I ended up spending more money appealing that decision, because it was intrinsically unfair. They included the money I spent taking my kids out for the weekends(like going to chuck e cheese or amusement parks etc...) in her award, but then I could no longer afford to do anything with my kids. She then started telling my kids that I did not love them anymore, because I did not take them as much as I used to. It took the better part of a year to get that decision changed, now she is pissed because she doesn't get that money anymore and she does everything she can do to interfere with my visitation without actually violating the terms.

Alimony also sucks but that varies from State to State.

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Luckily, I did not get stuck with that.

There are much more important things that are not taught about in America.

Marriage and having children are personal responsibilities. When the "I do" becomes "I don't"
it doesn't mean that men and women are no longer for their responsibilities of taking care of
their respective households.

Women that abuse the system, as described, are ill in a way. And as with any addictive habits they may have, they need help....then again, part of the system is allowing it's self to be taken advantage of, as I see it...it creates and keeps jobs going for those that work for the system...sicknesses are not meant to be cured...only controlled...

Men, they need to work to pay for their kids, whether they live in the household or not, those kids came from his loins too....they should pay. As for the ex-wife...once she marries again, you should not have to pay alimony, let the new husband take care of her...but the child support does have to be paid until 18. If the ex does marry, petition the court to lower the child support. They do that, ya know?

The description given by the author of this thread of women and their misuse of men, apparently, has never met those women out there that do not treat men as he so woefully depicts.


ETA...every case is different...bottom line.

On a final note. I see many of you feel negatively about my thread.
Just know,the only reason i wrote this was to state the facts about how the system works.
These are not my opinions,they are facts about how the system works in my area.
Things may not work the same in your area,or they may be the same in all of america, i do not know.

I have seen the negative side of this system,the same as the other few million americans that have.
And this thread is just made, to educate future generations, about the state of our system in northern america.

If one person reads this,plays it safe and avoids child support or alimony. Then I did my job taking out some un-needed depression and sorrow out of the world. And you cannot say that about pretty much any other thread out their.

Knowing that the media,is making having children, at a young age, look glamorous, I felt the need to spread the fact about the whole system, to the young men of america. On the show 16 and pregnant,they show young men leave the women with the baby,and they fail to ever state that the young man, isnt just out running around with other whores,acting like a pimp because he has a child. Enjoying himself in happy land while the girl suffers,it's the other way around. When those cameras are off,the child support begins and so do the other listed benifits.

If i did not educate you,and you already knew all the facts i listed. Sorry for the waste of time,this was not written for you.

A caring cop that sees young men arressted every day for this,over and out.

I have always wondered.... Do American`s get taught about the War of 1812? and if so what it was all about? I know what it was about, but I would like to hear an American's point of view.