Do Americans think that the U.S could ever break apart?

Looking at the U.S from the outside it can look quite at odds with itself.
Looking at the ethnic breakdown,

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and what looks like a fairly polarised political map in some places,

en.wikipedia.org...:2010_Senate_election_results_map.svg

en.wikipedia.org...:United_States_Governors_map.svg

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and the way in which states like California seem to have a lot of problems to deal with, without a lot of help (or so it looks from the outside) whether people in California, for example, may one day decide to go it alone?
Do Americans think this could ever happen?

I always imagined if the US ever broke apart, it would go something like this:



Blue states would remain the United States of America.

Yellow states would be come the Confederate States of America.

Lime Green States would become the TEA Party States of America.

Texas would either just stand alone, or be absorbed by Mexico.

Alaska would be co opted by the Discovery Channel and National Geographic and an epic civil war would happen over the Oil rights which would be filmed for a reality show.

Florida wouldn't be able to make up it's mind, and eventually would be taken over by Cuba.

reply to post by whatukno


Love the analysis but the question is who would you back, discovery or nat geo?

But do you think it could happen?

reply to post by Rocketman1


I don't know, I would have to see the previews before I made up my mind

There are people out there that are just begging for the US to break apart. They wish to end this country and they want to make their own country out of the ruins.

I think that if it ever happened, it will be far, far in the future.

The states are too reliant on each other to ever break apart.There would have to be some plan for trade and commerce in place ahead of time, and if they can come to an agreement ahead of time, why not just work out any perceived differences at that time.There will more than likely be states added to the union before any are subtracted, and I even think that is far off as well.

reply to post by whatukno


LMFAO
nice one

reply to post by youdidntseeme


But i heard befor the economic crash that if california was a seperate country it would be in the g8, so while some states may be dependant some could clearly be independant whenever they wanted.

I dont believe it will break apart regardless of the dystopian fantasies of some here. I think it will expand....and change for the worse... into the NAU. We've been making strategic moves toward it for a very long time.

I honestly think it could. When liberals and conservatives sit down they already sound like they are two different countries and its only getting more extreme. Both sides only care about getting wins for their own parties rather than wins for the people.

reply to post by Rocketman1


I am American and I absolutely think it could happen. That doesn't mean that I'm FOR it, but it wouldn't surprise me at all. Actually, it'll surprise me more if someone doesn't try to make it happen.

I'll admit to knowing very little about politics... in fact, I hate politics. But if it were to happen, I think the graph posted by the second poster (I think it was) is a fairly accurate depiction of what it would be like.

Nice chart, btw, lol. I didn't read the nat geo vs. discovery channel and cuba part when I first looked at it, lol.

And I absolutely think that Texas would become a country unto itself. It's a whole different world down there, lol.

reply to post by Rocketman1


Hope so that would be interesting

Do Americans think that the U.S could ever break apart?

The NAU is a far more logical/likely scenario...

Originally posted by Rocketman1
reply to post by youdidntseeme

 

But i heard befor the economic crash that if california was a seperate country it would be in the g8, so while some states may be dependant some could clearly be independant whenever they wanted.

I cant seem to find any member requirements for the G8, where did you getthe info that Cali would become a member if it secceded?

reply to post by gemineye

ROFLMAO!! I'm no Texan, but I know darn well that there is not a single Texan that would
allow Texas to be absorbed by Mexico.

reply to post by youdidntseeme


G8 membership is based on economic size is my understanding, think i got it from BBC news.

Originally posted by youdidntseeme
There will more than likely be states added to the union before any are subtracted, and I even think that is far off as well.

i stand in disagreance with that statement, i honestly think that outside of the U.S. there are very few who would be "willing" join the union. Unless something drastic changes in the political and social structure, secession is nearly inevitable (when "contunuity of government" is not taken into account)

Yes, i think it is very possible given the degree of difference from one state to another, it seems nearly impossible for any government to satisfy an entire populace. Especially when they do not even try...

There's already a large part of us inTexas wanting to secede from the union, so I think the red on the map is correct.

reply to post by DeadStarState


Me and my friends talk about it all the time. - Texan

I think it will absolutely happen. History repeats. Look at the USSR.

It's too big to govern.