Are you on a government watch list? I know I am.

Originally posted by withopeneyes
If I'm on that list it is for a darn good reason, and I know it! My life is so darn boring that government doctors are prescribing my files to agents who have insomnia. From what I understand no one has made it past the 2nd paragraph without falling asleep.

Must be like watching my life. They will never have anything, and its been 19 years.

Shows how much money and waste goes into watching people for no reason.

Though i am glad, in some ways, that i found out, about the scum.

Well, in your case, you fit the profile of the people they should keep an eye on andy. You're not screwed together all that tight. A little bit of help from a professional wouldn't be a bad thing.

Originally posted by Aeons
Well, in your case, you fit the profile of the people they should keep an eye on andy. You're not screwed together too tight.

I am more right than you will ever be in life, and i have nevr harmed anyone, and i can be pretty sure you have harmed at least 1 person in your life.

I have never done anything ever, and that is including being a kid.

I bet everyone on planet earth is more of a threat than me, and that includes you.

Oh andy, you can't walk around with the level of anger and fear you have and really think that it hasn't harmed someone. That's not really that realistic.

Originally posted by Aeons
Oh andy, you can't walk around with the level of anger and fear you have and really think that it hasn't harmed someone. That's not really that realistic.

I had no anger problems, and i have not hit anyone since i was 13 years old, thats 22 years ago. I wonder how many acts of violence the people who did this to me have committed in those 22 years?

Tell me the last time you hit someone.

Plus i have had all this provocation, and people desperate for me to do something. Tell me how me just thinking i hate some people has harmed them? Everyone hates people.

So tell us the last time you hit someone?

Andy, you're posts are full of anger and fear. Just about every single one.

Oh, and I popped my daughter on the butt for being oppositional and defiant 2 days ago. And you may rest assure if she keeps it up, I'll do it again.

Originally posted by andy1033Plus i have had all this provocation, and people desperate for me to do something. Tell me how me just thinking i hate some people has harmed them? Everyone hates people.

Andy, this is called projection.

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So what, do you not think they hate me too. Thats life. What goes on in my mind is mine as long as i am not doing anything to them, or others.

Everyone is projecting out. So its a crime for me to do it, as oh no i hate people that wanted to use the police and gov to kill me, amazing.

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And don't forget the CAT with Jedi Power's MAMABETH. LOL

IF I AM NOT on any list i will be very very surprised.
well who am i kidding i know i'm on a few list's.BIG DEAL
I love taking the piss when i get pulled aside.

NAME micky mouse
ADDRESS 9 lets be avinyou
OCCUPATION hit man etc etc. but that's just me. Anti authority always have been always will be.
Give respect and you earn mine. treat me like a prick i do the same back to them.

Originally posted by unityemissions
I may be a little paranoid here, but am pretty sure that an agent was sent to spy on me at a local bar I went to for a while. I think maybe this was some sort of unspoken interview to see if I truly was a threat to the government and needed to be dealt with, or if I was just someone who was curious but not really prone to violence or anything.

The guy came into the bar, and honestly did some subtle, yet creepy things to gain insight into my beliefs, and reasonings behind them. The guy looked highly intelligent, and yet had a cunning deceitfulness to him. I think he may honestly have been CIA.

If "local bar" is outside the USA, and you happen to work for a company or government and may have interesting opinions/knowledge, then it might have been CIA. The overwhelming primary work of CIA's human officers is to recruit information sources. If they decided you were qualified you would have been chatted up and maybe offered an arrangement by somebody with official cover, i.e. a diplomatic passport.

If "local bar" is inside the USA, and you're not in the military or in possession of classified information, it's much more likely it was FBI or DHS.

I guess I'm "good to go."

I didn't have a problem getting a passport.

Originally posted by unityemissions
I may be a little paranoid here, but am pretty sure that an agent was sent to spy on me at a local bar I went to for a while.

Oh crap, that happened to you TOO ???
I thought I was just being paranoid.
Maybe this is some new kind of technique used to
see if ur dangerous. I guess folks open up a lot more
with a few drinks in them, lol.

u never know who ur gonna meet at a bar.

I wished there was some other means of finding out
if ur on the list other than booking a flight.
I don't have that kind of money to throw
around just to gain insight.

So how does Julian Assange know he can leave
the country? Does he have a backdoor into the database
or is he just connected with the right people?

There needs to be a internet database set up
so folks can verify this info. I think I am on one
just because I frequent this site and my posts here.
But i would like to know for sure though.

And what does your credit rating have to do with
being on a watch list? Haven't figured that one out
yet.

Cool, i always wanted to be a member of the mickey mouse club

How to avoid being watched / listed.. Take a photo of yourself doing the following : drinking a budweiser, eating a cheeseburger, waving an american flag with a rifle slung over your shoulder, smoking a marlboro, reading a bible while sitting in your car.. Then carry a copy with you along with post a copy on farcebook to show your a true american...
*NOTE THIS POST IS WRITTEN WITH TONGUE FIRMLY IN CHEEK SO PLEASE DO NOT TAKE OFFENCE* quite sad that america today resembles the former soviet union / east germany with all the surveillance, watchlists and rampant paranoia of the government...

Haven't posted in a loong time so thought i would share here.

I'm pretty sure I am, or was on a watch list.
About 15 years ago, I used to work for a non profit group in Washington D.C. called "POW/MIA Common Cause" just off of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.. I basically just operated a vigil for the POW's selling t shirts and bracelets and had a petition for some House of Representatives bill. My boss was a Vet himself, though I was not. Nothing dangerous.
One morning A man in a nice shirt and tie, complete with sunglasses and a G. Gordon Liddy Haircut was at the sales table, perusing the shirts and such. I asked him how it was going and he said "Oh, not bad Patrick." (The names are changed to protect the innocent) Shocked me that he knew my name, but I kind of blew it off. I noticed that he had a badge from somewhere but it was tucked into the chest pocket. It was curious but didn't think anything of it. Then he asked me a question that sent chills down my spine.
"So how does it feel to be a terrorist?"
(For the record this was WELL before 9/11 so a terrorist had a plain tone to it and didnt send up alerts the way it does now.)
I was shocked, and put my defenses up. "How am I a terrorist?" I asked.
"You're speaking out against the President of the United States less than a mile away from where he sleeps at night. Wouldn't you call that a terrorist?"
I answered "I don't think so, no." But my heart wasn't in it. I was actually taken aback and a little scared. I was happy I just didn't show it to this guy.
He looked around a little bit more, bid me a good day, then disappeared down the sidewalk.

I'm not sure how serious he was, or how involved he was with the generic Acronyms (CIA, NSA, FBI, what have you) because for all I knew he was just a postal worker messing with me. But he did know my name, and there was nothing that showed my name on me or on the property. All my permits were in a box.

I dont know how long your name remains on this "list" they must have, but Ive never had a problem with flying or passports. Never heard about it again from anyone

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SPOOKY. and just to think, we cant even think first amendment or we're terrorists.

we should all be proud to be american...look at the monster we've created

reply to post by The_Zomar


Having worked in aviation for over a decade, I can tell you that in addition to people who are on a watch list people are also selected at random.

It's called "random" screening. They grab a random person or two and do an additional inspection. This could be due to your appearance or other reasons. I have been part of this process on both ends... I have been selected for "random" screening multiple times, even while flying on aircraft for the company I work for while performing company duties.

Some people are just very unlucky. Unless you fly a lot, it may seem like you are selected every time, though that should not give you indication that you are on some sort of watch list; unless of course you have other reasons to suspect that you are (such as your passport issue)... In that case, return the 800 lbs of fertilizer...

Originally posted by liejunkie01
Do not be fooled. You have no anonymity on the internet. It does not matter if you use your name at all. TPTB have all bases covered on the net. I remember reading a thread about a three letter agency having backdoor codes in software. I did a search and couldn't find it.
I have had an experience that I know put me on the list. There are some google exercises that you can do to get their watchful eye and maybe a house call. The problem is that the list is so darn big so were pretty safe.

I agree. I can almost guarantee that MS Windows, OSX, and Linux all have back doors that can be opened by an agency.

They would have to be idiots NOT to implement those backdoors, actually...

As far as a watch-list, however, I would think that a computer program (which is somehow ubiquitous) would create flags every time a poster posts something against the grain, while saving the IP address. From there, if you create enough (red) flags, an actual human working for an agency would use his/her discretion as to actually putting the person on this list.

But yeah, I think this stuff is for real. Thankfully (and I'm not just saying this because it's going to be in THIS thread) I don't think I'm considered a threat. I'm just in it for the ET phenomena (and the conspiracies in religion). All other conspiracies are ridiculous to me (NWO, depopulation, HAARP, etc.). I actually wouldn't doubt that THOSE conspiracies were created by whatever entity JUST to attract the overly paranoid population and track them.

And even if those conspiracies were for real, it cracks me up to see people on this site - some with pictures of them holding guns as their avatar ( ), and most of all, some talking openly about their intentions - like fighting the government back and yada yada yada. I mean, it's just ridiculous. You're on a conspiracy site on the internet spilling your guts.

Man. Thank goodness I'm into (hopefully) the less "dangerous" conspiracies and don't take any of the other stuff seriously.

Originally posted by unityemissions
Just don't say anything stupid like directly threatening the government. In all honesty, I'm pretty much okay with the way things are going considering the circumstances. I had some sort of change in my mindset after stumbling on an insight last week. Ever since then, things make much more sense, but tragically I just don't think most people here would relate, so haven't bothered to post a thread on it. I'm still debating whether or not to do so.

I would be interested in what you have to say.