Liberals: "We don't own the media and Conservatives are crazy."

This is not the first time that I have seen the liberal media using its power in a conspiracy to make the right look crazy. It is a known fact that the vast majority of news organisations have a liberal bias. Why is it then, that they lump conservatives and conspiracy theorist who question Obama into the same group? They dont want anyone to oppose their great leader. thats why. so what do they do? dress up like conservatives, spout crazy bs with a bit of truth in it, and have their buddies dress up like liberals and "expose" them.

here's an example: *snip*

see? I could give countless examples but i don't need to. you probably see it every day.

well guess what libs. we can use the internet too.

AND WE WILL USE IT TO EXPOSE THE LIBERAL CONSPIRACY IN THIS COUNTRY
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reply to post by tOrnaDo_pHett


*sniff* *sniff* I smell agenda....

This two party, right vs left paradigm is played out and tired. Why procreate the illusion? Why not offer solutions instead of vitriol and propaganda?

Pointing out problems is not the same as solving them. Be part of the solution.

~Heff

reply to post by tOrnaDo_pHett


You don't see the irony do you?

I do.

agenda? im trying to proliferate free speech. not trying to exercise it in a forum where i will be bleeped for expressing myself freely.

reply to post by Hefficide


So, what are some of your 'solutions'?

my solution is the same as the solution in the american constitution. to question our government, and until these issues are solved, to live outside of this broken system, and work toward revolution, by any means necessary.

Originally posted by tOrnaDo_pHett
well guess what libs. we can use the internet too.

AND WE WILL USE IT TO EXPOSE THE LIBERAL CONSPIRACY IN THIS COUNTRY
join me.

Nope, not going to play. Personally I think the hard liners on both sides are nuts. Secondly, I won't be played by any system built on divisiveness, childishness and vitriol.

I say down with the left AND the right. Heff said it perfectly. It's nothing but propaganda.

The number of republicans and democrats is going down and the number of independents are going up. People are waking up.

This is not the first time that I have seen the liberal media using its power in a conspiracy to make the right look crazy.

The right can make the right look crazy quite well on it's own.

t is a known fact that the vast majority of news organisations have a liberal bias.

"Reality has a known liberal bias"

Why is it then, that they lump conservatives and conspiracy theorist who question Obama into the same group?

Because conservatives are repeating silly conspiracy theories...?

They dont want anyone to oppose their great leader.

Yeah, I've never seen anyone being critical of Obama on television...

dress up like conservatives, spout crazy bs with a bit of truth in it

Nobody needs to "dress up" stupidity to make it look stupid.

AND WE WILL USE IT TO EXPOSE THE LIBERAL CONSPIRACY IN THIS COUNTRY

Will you use your second amendment remedy?

reply to post by tOrnaDo_pHett


Both parties have media in there pockets its just that the left has more than the right at this moment in time. Both sides don't care about the common people just who can get the most power. We need to look at what we can do to stop "both" sides from taking away all of our rights rather than which one is better than the other. They are both corrupt we need to stop the people behind "both" curtains from destroying the US.

and what would you call the libertarian party? last time i checked, ron paul was on the republican ballot, which is on the RIGHT side. Yet we call libertarians "independent" and "third party"

STOP BEING COWARDS!!!

IDENTIFY YOURSELF!!!

reply to post by LanMan54


My solutions?

1) Education.
2) A refusal to accept the right/left paradigm, as it is the essence of intellectual enslavement.
3) Free exercise of thought. (And before anyone tries to say I don't practice what I preach... the OP has the right to speak... and I have the right to disagree. Nobody has been silenced here.)
4) Utilizing the extant power, which is already invested in "we the people" and not falling prey to errant "calls to arms" by folks who don't seem to understand the implications of their blind, reactionary rhetoric.

~Heff

Originally posted by tOrnaDo_pHett
STOP BEING COWARDS!!!

IDENTIFY YOURSELF!!!

OK. "I'm intrepid and I'm an alc.." Oops, wrong venue. "I'm intrepid and I refuse to be pigeonholed and manipulated by any political party and/or ideology."

OP you need to take a giant hammer to that television set of yours. Get rid of it.
It's not telling you the truth. Those people have spent BILLIONS learning how to
manipulate you and it seems to be working.

Liberal my *ss!!! These people are greedy tyrants hiding behind a political party
and you are falling for it.

reply to post by Hefficide


Humanity has created all kinds of 'solutions' to solve human problems down through the ages, but have the problems decreased or gone away? NO! Its the same old song and dance! Nothing new under the sun! The main problem, which humanity does not see or hear, is carnal human nature! Its corrupt! Anything created by carnal humanity to attempt to solve the problems that are a direct result of man's corrupt nature fails because its based in corruption to begin with! When the end comes, and it will, the king of Kings and Lord of lords will have the final word. Count on it.

reply to post by LanMan54


Again...

You seem to have ideas about the problem. But complaining is impotent. Offering solutions is action. So I ask, do you have any ideas towards solving the problem or are you just content to live with resentment about your situation?

Being proactive is the first step.

~Heff

reply to post by tOrnaDo_pHett


Define 'liberal'. The democrats are obviously liberal, but the conservatives aren't? Think again. They are liberals in sheeps clothing. How many conservatives support your right to purchase pornography in any form of media? Do you think Bill OReilly is opposed to women posing in Playboy? Do you think that conservatives aren't supportive of projects that are directly related to transhumanist thought? Very liberal if you ask me!

reply to post by tOrnaDo_pHett

Well this thread coupled with your earlier thread bashing liberals from today( www.abovetopsecret.com...)indicate that you have allowed the frustration of politics to make you batty. I know, because I have been there, fighting/arguing with family and co-workers, and it is futile, because left and right leaning people's brains are literally wired different. Brain Differences
What gets me is when one side insinuates that the world would be better off with the opposing party gone(remember Beck's "we must rid country of cancerous progressives"). If America is a bird and the left and right are it's wings, then it stands to reason that the bird cannot fly with only one wing. The parties are joined at the hip so why not try and find middle ground? The problems in the world affect us all, not just one side.

I think if something evokes hate from one's heart, they should examine why, if it's healthy, and can we do something constructive about it. Both sides have value and fault, but civilly discussing them brings more resolve than name-calling and blame.

We can not be totally traditional, ignoring any progress, nor can we be so progressive that we abandon all traditionalism. We've got to maintain some middle ground. This is not an either or situation, even though that's how the pundits so often present it.

I will listen to someone until they start attacking and becoming condescending, then I drop my attention and fail to learn or understand where someone else is coming from.
Politics -(poly)many -(tics)blood suckers.......many bloodsuckers
"I hope you find some solace in all of this," says my bleeding heart. "Suck it up and pull ur bootstraps up," says my conservative sensibility! How about a little o both?

spec

reply to post by Hefficide


My ideas? Tell the truth by exposing the lies of those who worship the 'god of this world'. Get others to accept Jesus as the Christ. Understand all that this entails. Warn humanity that it is on the path to self-destruction, which is obvious as the problems that humanity seeks to solve by using its sciences and technologies are only increasing, not decreasing. Trust in the Lord of lords, the King of kings.

reply to post by speculativeoptimist


I know this is probably not something you're considering, but has it ever occured to you that being a 'liberal' is not 'holy', or 'unholy', as in 'unrighteous'?