Man's rules, or God's rules?

In his inaugural address on Monday, Alabama's new governor, Republican Robert Bentley, went out of his way to inform all the Jews, Muslims, Hindus, and other non-Christians in his state that, "Anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister, and I want to be your brother,".

Sorry to have to inform you, governor, but America is not a Christian nation, and neither are the democrats, republicans, or independents! America does not support or endorse the 'doctrine of Christ'. Simple truth. America's ideology is based on the doctrine of 'humanitarianism', which is a system of doctrine that deny's the divinity of Christ, claiming him to be just another man like Mohammed, or Buddha, the Dahli Lama, the founding fathers, etc.. This doctrine supports the idea that man's obligations are limited to, and dependent alone on, man and human relations. Isn't that what the 'leadership' in this nation and the world does all the time, insisting on self-reliance, and relying upon each other, and on developing human relations? This doctrine claims that man's nature is perfectible through his own efforts without divine grace. Isn't this what developments and innovations in the sciences and technologies are trying to accomplish? Don't they openly declare this in their works? The doctrine of Christ proclaims that '...in Christ shall all be made alive. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom of God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power.", and that, "...we shall all be changed. in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed." Those who are truly Christians, or '...in Christ...', are promised to be ressurected, just as Christ was, upon the return of Christ, the King of kings and Lord of lords. "They came to life again, and reigned with Christ a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life again until the thousand years were ended. This is the first ressurection. Blessed and holy is he who shares in the first ressurection! Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and they shall reign with them a thousand years." I didn't make up the rules of this game, GOD did. Either you follow God's rules or you'll suffer the consequences. Simple

reply to post by LanMan54


The reason there should be a separation of religion and politics. This will lead to a lack of representation of non-christians. Sad day for the people he represents. We are the ones here and now making the decisions and the mistakes... Man creates, man destroys, man controls... therefore man rules. That is until the great one decides to have a divine intervention. Don't hold your breath!

Instead of me saying anything I thought I would let a founding father say it for me. Now for your enjoyment Thomas Jefferson: www.usconstitution.net...

Guess the governor hasnt heard of separation of church and state... Not to mention freedom of religion... Evidently bubbaland still hasnt caught up with the 21st century electing a governor with that mentality...

I personally don't see anything wrong with what he said. He stated his beliefs inside of a church full of people who share the same beliefs. Just because you become a Governor, doesn't mean you no longer are allowed to have personal beliefs and convictions. Think about it, he didn't change any rules, laws, or do anything that was illegal, he just stated his beliefs. I personally applaud his openness.

reply to post by PsychNurse


Its impossible to argue with someone who thinks that man is in control at all! Mankind is not in control! Don't you get it?

sorry for not reading everything but i just want to say that it is wrong to go against someone just because they dont believe in what you believe in. i think that if people really want to be someones "brother" then accept them for who they are and try to ashow them the right direction. and im only expresing how i feel about what ive read so far so i apologize if i have gotten off topic in any way at all.

reply to post by LanMan54


the only reason we know its gods words in the bible is because the elites told us so, the same elites that killed jesus because of his teachings. the same ones that bought out a book of his teachings.. the same "elite" bloodlines that are in power today, the same ones making bible "prophecy come true... its freakin madness how people are stuck in this menatl prison!!

its all designed to fuel our fears, egos and insecurities.

what came first, the word christ or its association with jesus??

Originally posted by LanMan54
In his inaugural address on Monday, Alabama's new governor, Republican Robert Bentley, went out of his way to inform all the Jews, Muslims, Hindus, and other non-Christians in his state that, "Anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister, and I want to be your brother,".

A Truth-based take on this speech is that this societal leader/whore is not only affirming his loyalty to the insane god myth, and also stating that his mission is to infect as many of you as he can with his toxic mental dysfunction.

Sorry to have to inform you, governor, but America is not a Christian nation, and neither are the democrats, republicans, or independents! America does not support or endorse the 'doctrine of Christ'.

Totally incorrect! Your statement is unbelievable wrong! All western nations are steeped in insane god myth chistrian indoctrination. This is not a good thing, but a sick thing. You are speaking as if christianity is a sound basis for any endevour, when it is an insane and perversive illness.

Simple truth. America's ideology is based on the doctrine of 'humanitarianism', which is a system of doctrine that deny's the divinity of Christ, claiming him to be just another man like Mohammed, or Buddha, the Dahli Lama, the founding fathers, etc..

You cannot see any Truth! American ideology is based on lies and myths, as well as subjugating and breaking all. Christianity is a fundamental part of this perverse process.


There is no such things as the god creature. There is no reason to think that the bible is anything but a crazy ranting nonsense text written by human beings. You are sadly under the grip of these societally-sponsored delusions.

reply to post by LanMan54


And why are you looking to argue? So your going to tell me that a story book character runs the show? Really. Are we puppets then? Does God make you pay your bills, go to work, love your partner, choose the groceries you eat and who you vote for. Take responsibilitry for your beliefs and actions. Don't put responsibility on a story book character for it. We are in control of our own lives. Have some faith in yourself and mankind for that matter. I'm not arguing, I'm having a conversation. Lighten up...

reply to post by PsychNurse


Christ is a 'storybook character'? Man, this world is going to hell fast!

reply to post by LanMan54


Mythology is mythology. I don't believe in Thor either, but I am looking forward to the movie.

As for Jesus? If he existed, and was as he is portrayed in the first 4 books of the new testament, then he was awesome, no doubt about it.

I seldom meet Christians who have forgone wealth, family, or community to travel about and minister to the lowest of the low in society. On the contrary, most of the Christians I have known and met here in America seem hellbent on accumulating treasure, while looking down on everyone else as "scum" and "sinners." As such they are NOTHING like their Christ, and therefore completely uninteresting to me as examples of how I should be living in the here and now.

Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
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Mythology is mythology. I don't believe in Thor either, but I am looking forward to the movie.

As for Jesus? If he existed, and was as he is portrayed in the first 4 books of the new testament, then he was awesome, no doubt about it.

I seldom meet Christians who have forgone wealth, family, or community to travel about and minister to the lowest of the low in society. On the contrary, most of the Christians I have known and met here in America seem hellbent on accumulating treasure, while looking down on everyone else as "scum" and "sinners." As such they are NOTHING like their Christ, and therefore completely uninteresting to me as examples of how I should be living in the here and now.

Star for you... I couldn't of said it better myself. I was raised a christian and after seeing what you had just described, i decided that as long as I treat others the way I'd like to be treated and respect their views then all is good. Muslims, buddhist, atheists and christians... we all bleed and breath the same! Going to hell, II'll bring the wieners, who's bringing the buns?

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I'd give you a star, but the option is not there above your post. I'll check later. I'm glad there are still some rational opposing views to the religious chains we've worn for thousands of years. At least in this day and age the church will not have me roasted at the stake for not conforming to their beliefs.

reply to post by yaasmoor


Nobody's arguing that he has to give up his beliefs. But "the rest of us" can't really be faulted for wondering if we could get a fair shake from this man or his administration after an announcement like that. Even if the guy and his administration are, in fact, completely fair to Alabamians of every faith, his words are going to cost Alabama money. If a nonchristian feels shorted or mistreated by the Alabama executive, then they could easily take the case to court based on the governor's remarks.

reply to post by PsychNurse


Greetings to you, PsychNurse. Apparently so, our oldest son, a 13 year old, have been going to church, he has a lot of mental problems, but he tells us that the preacher says the whole world and everything in was made by Jesus, and that Jesus wrote the Bible, and Jesus is running everything. I say craziness in action. There is no real evidence that such a man ever even existed, outside the NT, which was wholly written by a Roman family named Piso, none at all, yet these people think he does all of this? I called the preacher and asked him if that is so, why is the world in such a sad shape? He stated it was "God's will." Which God would that be, I asked, Jesus, he answered. I guess a man killed off all the Gods and Goddesses of history, even the ones in the bible! Must be a real hard core human being!
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Personally, I think it is time that Christians just faced up to the facts, and realized that their savior was just a man who is long dead and buried, their famous book is all made up, and that their God was one of the Annunaki. Sadly, though, they will go right up to the end thinking that, and that is why the Draco will have their energy and flesh.

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I really have a problem when religious figures allow children to believe it's"God's will" for the atrocities happening in the world. This leads them to believe that they have no control in shaping the future other then what the story dictates to them (bible). It's no doubt you folks feel so angry, defensive and helpless. Just the fact that the OP states we have no control validates this.

LanMan54:
"Its impossible to argue with someone who thinks that man is in control at all! Mankind is not in control! Don't you get it? "

We have control, we just need to shake our heads and try to get along with each other rather than fighting and nit' picking. The church has taken away your ability to think for your self. And no, your right...I DON"T GET IT!

reply to post by LanMan54


How about we do away with Governors.

This way we don't have to worry about some fundamentalist wack-job having power over us.

reply to post by LanMan54


You could've mentioned how wrong he is to say someone, anyone, is not his brother. The acid of negativity doth rain upon him. You could've left at that.

Originally posted by mnemeth1
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How about we do away with Governors.

This way we don't have to worry about some fundamentalist wack-job having power over us.

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Sad thing is they voted for him!? Oh sorry, God's will right?