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Chinese Troops Deploying In North Korea
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Everyone thinks a "Red Dawn" defense tactic would work if China comes for us.
If they stop the ships sending supplies to America's Walmarts....game over.
They are holding a good poker hand. We aren't. I truly believe we were set up to fail. This whole "free trade" and sending all the factories from America to China....
Was a ploy by Europe to profit...even if in the end we cease being a country. Our elite were likely promised large sums and a nice home in Dubai. After the smoke clears they were promised the ability to walk into America and buy whats left for pennies.
We were set up for failure. If you all aren't seeing it yer pretty naive. There's no steel mills in America anymore. Without Chinese imports we couldn't build replacement military hardware/ships/ or sustain what we have.
We're either led by fools or we were set up to fail for someones benefit.
If they stop the ships sending supplies to America's Walmarts....game over.
They are holding a good poker hand. We aren't. I truly believe we were set up to fail. This whole "free trade" and sending all the factories from America to China....
Was a ploy by Europe to profit...even if in the end we cease being a country. Our elite were likely promised large sums and a nice home in Dubai. After the smoke clears they were promised the ability to walk into America and buy whats left for pennies.
We were set up for failure. If you all aren't seeing it yer pretty naive. There's no steel mills in America anymore. Without Chinese imports we couldn't build replacement military hardware/ships/ or sustain what we have.
We're either led by fools or we were set up to fail for someones benefit.
reply to post by SLAYER69
Very plausible .. to .. first thing positive i have heard about this news thx
i think they will try to help for this unification and defend NK at the same time
very very good intelligent move from China we have there
they are good at Chess
I wonder if China is just moving into place in order to help facilitate the eventual unification of the Koreas?
Very plausible .. to .. first thing positive i have heard about this news thx
i think they will try to help for this unification and defend NK at the same time
very very good intelligent move from China we have there
they are good at Chess
edit on 1/18/2011 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)
reply to post by Ben81
China does not need more land. It is majorly rural, and it ranks pretty low on the "population density" scale.
Population per square mile
China does not need more land. It is majorly rural, and it ranks pretty low on the "population density" scale.
Population per square mile
reply to post by SLAYER69
Slayer you beat me to it but I was going to say pretty much the same thing.If you believe the Wikileaks info, it doesn't sound like China is thrilled with Crazy Kim's recent antics.
This might be more of a "watchdog" type thing rather than China getting ready to support NK in some kind of conflict....
Slayer you beat me to it but I was going to say pretty much the same thing.If you believe the Wikileaks info, it doesn't sound like China is thrilled with Crazy Kim's recent antics.
This might be more of a "watchdog" type thing rather than China getting ready to support NK in some kind of conflict....
Originally posted by Skippy1138
reply to post by SLAYER69
Slayer you beat me to it but I was going to say pretty much the same thing.If you believe the Wikileaks info, it doesn't sound like China is thrilled with Crazy Kim's recent antics.
This might be more of a "watchdog" type thing rather than China getting ready to support NK in some kind of conflict....
Or it could be that China does not want its interests attacked?
reply to post by macman
Very good point indeed
the choice belongs to Obama at the end
Nasty invasion or no blood invasion
Very good point indeed
the choice belongs to Obama at the end
Nasty invasion or no blood invasion
Originally posted by Ben81
reply to post by macman
Very good point indeed
the choice belongs to Obama at the end
Nasty invasion or no blood invasion
That is based in the idea that Obama controls the masses.
I think blood will come either way. One is just faster then the other.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Ben81
China does not need more land. It is majorly rural, and it ranks pretty low on the "population density" scale.
Population per square mile
They have a Billion peoples .. thats many mouths to feed .. and many rice farms to create
just look here in Canada .. we are the second biggest country in the world with the biggest fresh water reserves
30 millions people .. the government give us cash to make more babies lol
can you tell me what they do in China related to making babies ???
you have the answer right there
edit on 1/18/2011 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)
reply to post by getreadyalready
This is very reasoned analysis. China is trying, as is their right, to assert more influence on the region and in the world stage. They would undo the last decade of success by allowing NK to pick a fight with SK (one of China's largest trading partners), alienating Japan, the US and the West.
When a small country like NK allows a larger power to have a military presence within its borders there should be some concern that the larger power is there to influence things to their benefit. China is not going to tag team up with NK to fight some ideological war against capitalism. The Chinese government would not be able to survive such a miscalculated decision- their people would overthrow the government once the economy crashed.
This is very reasoned analysis. China is trying, as is their right, to assert more influence on the region and in the world stage. They would undo the last decade of success by allowing NK to pick a fight with SK (one of China's largest trading partners), alienating Japan, the US and the West.
When a small country like NK allows a larger power to have a military presence within its borders there should be some concern that the larger power is there to influence things to their benefit. China is not going to tag team up with NK to fight some ideological war against capitalism. The Chinese government would not be able to survive such a miscalculated decision- their people would overthrow the government once the economy crashed.
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lolz you reckon that you sitting at home playing rambo with your little guns is a real mattch against a trained army that outnumbers you a thousand to one
As others have said, there will never be an invasion of the US mainland. Not unless they first take away all the privately owned guns.
lolz you reckon that you sitting at home playing rambo with your little guns is a real mattch against a trained army that outnumbers you a thousand to one
Originally posted by purplemer
lolz you reckon that you sitting at home playing rambo with your little guns is a real mattch against a trained army that outnumbers you a thousand to one
We have the largest percentage of privately owned firearms and presently the most experienced vets. They'd have to get past our active military then past our National home defense then deal with the most heavily armed civilian populace on the planet.
That's if of course we didn't nuke them first. Besides why would China or the US want to turn Canada into a massive battleground? Because that's where it would be fought most likely in their conventional invasion.
US resistance would make Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan look like a side show........
edit on 18-1-2011 by SLAYER69 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by purplemer
reply to [url=http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread652457/pg1#pid103597
As others have said, there will never be an invasion of the US mainland. Not unless they first take away all the privately owned guns.
lolz you reckon that you sitting at home playing rambo with your little guns is a real mattch against a trained army that outnumbers you a thousand to one
They are able to put a thousand man on each street corner around the US
for check points .. the fema camps will be for americans .. many have predicted that
reply to post by purplemer
#1. there are 200 million armed Americans, nobody can mount an invading force of 200 million.
#2. a large number of those 200 million are capable of much more than "playing rambo."
#3. it is expensive and tactically disadvantageous to fight an enemy far from your own resources.
200 million armed Americans, plus our regular military, on our home turf, with technological advantages, and with much survival and military training is a significant force to reckon with.
The fact is, nobody will invade the US, and the US won't invade any major power like China. All future wars will be done by proxy in places like Korea and the Middle East. They will be fought as a means of commerce and diplomacy. The US, Russia, EU, and China will never face off head to head. There is too much to lose and very little to gain. It is much more profitable to start skirmishes in smaller areas, and then support both sides while negotiating behind the scenes to split up the regions resources and rebuilding contracts.
#1. there are 200 million armed Americans, nobody can mount an invading force of 200 million.
#2. a large number of those 200 million are capable of much more than "playing rambo."
#3. it is expensive and tactically disadvantageous to fight an enemy far from your own resources.
200 million armed Americans, plus our regular military, on our home turf, with technological advantages, and with much survival and military training is a significant force to reckon with.
The fact is, nobody will invade the US, and the US won't invade any major power like China. All future wars will be done by proxy in places like Korea and the Middle East. They will be fought as a means of commerce and diplomacy. The US, Russia, EU, and China will never face off head to head. There is too much to lose and very little to gain. It is much more profitable to start skirmishes in smaller areas, and then support both sides while negotiating behind the scenes to split up the regions resources and rebuilding contracts.
reply to post by SLAYER69
Maybe .. but many are really undiscipline
+80% of the US marines are like them in this video
VS
who think will pussy out ? at first sight of the enemy ..
a real powerfull trained army this time ..
taliban is not a powerfull trained army .. thats the difference
Maybe .. but many are really undiscipline
+80% of the US marines are like them in this video
VS
who think will pussy out ? at first sight of the enemy ..
a real powerfull trained army this time ..
taliban is not a powerfull trained army .. thats the difference
edit on 1/18/2011 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)
reply to post by Pervius
There are still many americans who have the know how
to manufacture what we need.
If we are pushed too hard,we will push back.
There are still many americans who have the know how
to manufacture what we need.
If we are pushed too hard,we will push back.
Originally posted by Ben81
who think will pussy out ? at first sight of the enemy ..
VS
Yeah they Look great marching I'll admit.
But exactly how much Real World combat experience do they have?
That's the real difference
edit on 18-1-2011 by SLAYER69 because: (no reason given)
reply to post by Ben81
Difference between Taliban and US forces is Taliban is a guerrilla force using guerrilla tactics.
US Military is still, for the most part, a traditional military force.
The Taliban, and if needed, US citizens, would/will resort to Guerrilla tactics.
Chinese army invasion would be along the lines of a traditional military.
There is a reason why the Japanese were apprehensive on attacking/invading the US.
I would take 100 US military vets, with personal owned weapons over 200 Chinese regular army any day, any time.
Difference between Taliban and US forces is Taliban is a guerrilla force using guerrilla tactics.
US Military is still, for the most part, a traditional military force.
The Taliban, and if needed, US citizens, would/will resort to Guerrilla tactics.
Chinese army invasion would be along the lines of a traditional military.
There is a reason why the Japanese were apprehensive on attacking/invading the US.
I would take 100 US military vets, with personal owned weapons over 200 Chinese regular army any day, any time.
edit on 18-1-2011 by macman
because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Originally posted by Ben81
who think will pussy out ? at first sight of the enemy ..
a real powerfull trained army this time ..
taliban is not a powerfull trained army .. thats the difference
Yeah they Look great marching I'll admit.
But exactly how much Real World combat experience do they have?
That's the real difference
By marching like that all perfectly alligned .. tell me all about their army
Very very disciplined and hard training .. they only show them marching in the vid .. we dont know what can they endure in a real fight
most US marine cant endure pain very much .. since they are not that discipline
a disciplinary army have all the chance on their side to win a battle
thats the difference i see
i dont need to see a fight to know who have the best chance to win
reply to post by macman
If you know how to shoot a gun and you have a good aim ..
and you know some tactics to create ambush .. then i beleive
1 US marines = 1 Chinese soldier
Even a child can give a good fight against any soldiers
I would take 100 US military vets, with personal owned weapons over 200 Chinese regular army any day, any time
If you know how to shoot a gun and you have a good aim ..
and you know some tactics to create ambush .. then i beleive
1 US marines = 1 Chinese soldier
Even a child can give a good fight against any soldiers
reply to post by Ben81
Really? Marching in unison? The Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders work in perfect unison, and they look great doing it, but it doesn't say much about their military ability!
The US military has been in a constant state of war for almost 20 years. We wrote and re-wrote the books on urban warfare....quite literally! Petraeus is considered the world re-knowned expert on it.
I think ducking in and out of fox holes, caves, and city streets in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, and Bosnia is a little bit better experience than marching in crisp clean uniforms.
Now, if Glee needs a new director, that is a different story.
Really? Marching in unison? The Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders work in perfect unison, and they look great doing it, but it doesn't say much about their military ability!
The US military has been in a constant state of war for almost 20 years. We wrote and re-wrote the books on urban warfare....quite literally! Petraeus is considered the world re-knowned expert on it.
I think ducking in and out of fox holes, caves, and city streets in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, and Bosnia is a little bit better experience than marching in crisp clean uniforms.
Now, if Glee needs a new director, that is a different story.
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