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Originally posted by Sinnthia
Originally posted by beezzer
Do you think that maybe if they're number 1 that they might be right? I mean, you have CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, NPR, PBS. . . but FOX beats them all.
If FOX was "right" they would not have fought in court for and won the right to force their "reporters" to report proven and known lies. Yet, they did.
Things in the US are not populare because they are "right." Dancing with the Stars, Pizza Hut, Paris Hilton, ETC. We have terrible taste and an insatiable need to be entertained.
It’s not a straw man to talk about the infrastructure because the national engineering group has warned us that we are in trouble because we are not tending to the infrastructure and bridges are falling.
In 1992, George H.W. Bush signed Executive Order 12803, which gave D.C. the authority to sell America's infrastructure. They called this authority "Infrastructure Privatization." E.O. 12803 tells us this power cleared the way for the "disposition or transfer of an infrastructure "asset" such as by sale or by long-term lease from a State or local government to a private party."
E.O. 12803 also lists examples of America's saleable and/or lease-able infrastructure:
· Roads
· Tunnels
· Bridges
· Electricity supply facilities
· Mass transit
· Rail transportation
· Airports
· Ports
· Waterways
· Recycling/wastewater treatment facilities
· Solid waste disposal facilities
· Hospitals
· Prisons
· Schools
· Housing
E.O. 12803 tells us that this list represents infrastructure... www.rense.com...
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by inforeal
Then provde facts, not rhetoric.
Obama raised the EPA budget 30% his first year in office. Do we really need that?
Originally posted by beezzer
Never watched dancing with the stars.
Had Pzza Hut once with the bride, it sucked.
Paris Hilton is a bimbo.
But people are smart. I'll give them credit for knowing what is right and what is bull poopoo. And that is reflected in the ratings.
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by whaaa
Ok. Then you and I have no more reason to discuss. You are pro Obama, pro big government, pro control.
Good luck with that.
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by whaaa
Ok. Then you and I have no more reason to discuss. You are pro Obama, pro big government, pro control.
Good luck with that.
Obama raised the EPA budget 30% his first year in office. Do we really need that?
Im not sure....I sort of like not choking on chemicals when I breathe air.
Jolley: Five Minutes With John Munsell & A Trip To The Woodshed With The USDA
One day, a long, long time ago, Big John noticed something amiss. Contaminated meat was coming in the back door of his very small plant. “That’s not right,” he thought and called the authorities.
They arrived ready to right a wrong; after all, that was what they are paid to do, an earnest and dedicated group of men and women charged with safeguarding much of America’s food supply.
An inspector, armed with many official looking pieces of paper, looked Big John in the eye and said, “Assume the position!”
John was frisked. The authorities stopped just short of a full body cavity search. It was a very thorough exam.
“Wait,” protested Big John. “The meat came in with bad stuff already on it. I didn’t put it there. Go after the people who sent it to me!”
“Obviously you don’t understand the way we do things around here,” chuckled the inspector who was amused by Big John’s apparent naivety. “We found the bad stuff in your possession; therefore you have to be the bad guy.”
John was frisked again. This time, the authorities included a full body cavity search. It was VERY thorough exam.
“Wait,” protested Big John again. “All this bad stuff came from (deleted), a very large company that might be shipping lots more of that bad stuff to thousands of people. I can prove the bad stuff came from them. PLEASE go after them!”
“No, No, we can’t go after (deleted),” said the now impatient inspectors. “Don’t even say that name. We found the bad stuff here so you must suffer the consequences! We have to protect the public!”
So, to protect the public, John was shown the back door. Hundreds, perhaps thousands of pounds of meat was destroyed.
A few months later, (deleted), now known as Conagra, recalled 19 million pounds of beef that was potentially contaminated with E. coli 0157:H7.....
Originally posted by crimvelvet
reply to post by aching_knuckles
Obama raised the EPA budget 30% his first year in office. Do we really need that?
Im not sure....I sort of like not choking on chemicals when I breathe air.
No one bothers to look behind the curtain. Sanchoearlyjones, an ATS member, said his brother worked for EPA and he was told to leave Exxon alone and go after the Mom and Pop businesses.
I have followed the FDA and USDA and it is the same thing. The US bureaucracy is crammed full of the corporate Cartels puppets. The bug corporations get a Get Out of Jail Free Card the little guy gets plastered.
Originally posted by whaaa
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by whaaa
Ok. Then you and I have no more reason to discuss. You are pro Obama, pro big government, pro control.
Good luck with that.
Crybaby!
Now who's painting with an broad brush with labels and name calling? Some catastrophes are just too big for the states to handle.
Don't let your ideology get in the way of your common sense.edit on 16-1-2011 by whaaa because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by aching_knuckles
Then what do YOU want?
Nanny state, bad.
Anarchy, bad.
Where would YOU draw the line?
Originally posted by tiger5
reply to post by beezzer
Naah Bezzer. I have been reading your comments and you seem to be reasonable. Guess what . I want small govrnment also. We can't afford otherwise.
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by aching_knuckles
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by aching_knuckles
Then what do YOU want?
Nanny state, bad.
Anarchy, bad.
Where would YOU draw the line?
Somewhere in the middle...yknow, like a moderate, reasonable human being, and not an extremist.
And ironically enough, I consider my self a moderate. Life is funny like that.
Originally posted by beezzer
No crying here. If that's what you want then good luck. Jut don't want to debate with someone who's ideology is so socialist.
Good luck with that.