"Vortex Based Mathematics by Marko Rodin"

reply to post by 23432


More on the heart, from "Atomic Art / Magic Squares":

The Anu

The smallest and indivisible unit of creation, similar to a quark. Leadbeater drew this “anu” which appears as a heart-shaped energetic field.

Interesting.

Originally posted by Mary Rose

Originally posted by squandered
The only problem with free energy is that people will have to go back to thinking you actually can get something from nothing...

The reward for genuinely understanding nature and making it work for you.

I was thinking the same thing Mary.

You're talking about nature, not energy vortex'.
You have to deal with nature when you want to exploit energy.

Originally posted by Mary Rose
reply to post by 23432

 

More on the heart, from "Atomic Art / Magic Squares":

The Anu

The smallest and indivisible unit of creation, similar to a quark. Leadbeater drew this “anu” which appears as a heart-shaped energetic field.

Interesting.

Leadbeater got it all wrong. The "anu"s come in 4 different type: hearts, spades, diamonds and clubs. He was ignorant of the other three kinds. This is encoded in four suits of the Tarot cards, and is a part of ancient knowledge. Tarot in itself is derived from "Turuq", which is an Arabic word for "passage" or "ways", which hints at a vortex connecting alternate realities. Thus, the card games were actually a spiritual journey and experiment trying to re-create the Universe out of its smallest building blocks, which are tightly wound structures of aetheric field, each vibrating at its own frequency. In fact, the Tarot cards came to Europe from Egypt, and it's theorized that the original card sets were used by ancient high priests as means to record and transmit their sacred knowledge. The fact that the pyramids have 4 faces is highly symbolic, as this corresponds to the 4 "anu"s found in Nature. The apex corresponds to converging "anu"s, which in combination result in a vortex (hence the funnel shape of the pyramid). It is entirely possible that the earliest card games were played in order to cause permutation of the "anu"s, via quantum entanglement, in a way that defeats gravity. This explains the incredible feat of building the Great Pyramid.

With passage of time, the sacred knowledge was lost and diluted. But still, the notion of four classical elements persisted through millenia. Now it's almost entirely forgotten that these are the "anu"s.

In divinatory tarot, the suits of cups, swords, batons/wands, and discs/coins are said to correspond to water, air, fire, and earth respectively.

reply to post by BBalazs


Wow their arrogance is astronomical. ( I wonder if they will be proud of these statements when they are on their death bed) I doubt they would even consider to concede to "defeat" (as they would perceive it - rather than humbly accepting an alternate perspective) even if they knew they were being blatantly ignorant of facts. People are stubborn, even more so when they build an egocentric foundation around what the think they know to be absolute. especially if something alternate threatens their beliefs - in their case its probably some deep seeded fear (that they seldom acknowledge is there) that maybe there is some sort of "punishment form a higher power" for those who do "wrong"...

I guess the idea that they themselves are their own judges based on what they know they have done (i.e. karma - law of frequency and resonance, sooner or latter you get that which you sow) has never crossed their mind, and that god (or whatever you want to call it) just sits back and says go for it do as you please, you might forget I exist... and that's why you have an innate internal guidance system of basic instinctive morality to navigate through and beyond the intentions which are not going to yield any good for yourselves or others.

Maybe they should do some independent research into the esoteric as I said these guys aren't worth my time...I've already discovered the evidence of reference to toroids in scripture... if they want it then they can seek, "seek and ye shall find"..if they aren't a seeker then imo they don't deserve to just be handed all the evidence that they demand.... instead they should find it themselves cos after all that's what science is all about...proving oneself wrong on assumptions to better understandings..whether it be of evidence or of writing in support of evidence (in this case ancient wisdom paralleling facets of observable phenomenon which lend to the existence of toroidal physics) Trouble is guys like this are afraid to do the research themselves because,

A. they might be subject to allot of self questioning during the process.

B. they might find out something new.

note: If you provide it for them they can skim through and pick out the bits they dislike the most and ignore the implications of the whole... because after all what you read you can never undo the knowledge of. And if one knows something that challenges them to express on a more refined level, well... lets face it is hard for those who have dug a deep hole of arrogance. In all honesty I feel sorry for them it must be hard to keep ones cool when being challenged by something that flies in the face of all one thinks they know is true and every thing that determines ones primary choice of character, At the end of the day its not about "science is right, your wrong" its about an Identity crisis and a need to fuel ignorance to perpetuate the arrogance that makes them content in avoidance of change. true change comes when one has an intent to seek on ones own accord.

C. Scientists use passive NLP techniques to program peoples minds and there are those who are engrained with this method with out knowing that's what they have been trained to do i.e. passive NLP - Nero linguistic programming.

The text books are a good example of this, its all delivered as absolute unchanging fact ... and not as a - this is how it appears, so for now we know this is what we can work with an expect, tho we have no idea whether or not this may be subject to change in future conditions. Its true all scientist awill admit that it may be suject to change but its not how science was delivered when I was at school, we were told this is how things are period (don't question, don't even think for yourself just accept what we say goes, and if you do think for yourself i.e. ask questions which are outside our parameters we'll tell you its not possible Ironically science was the subject I got highest grades in when I was at school - aside form art

Karl_Popper was a very astute mind where this idea of firstly assuming impermanence as a the only constant until a theory which explains everything is proven. well due props to Popper. Pitty that scientists couldn't actually apply his philosophy and instead took his techniques of induction and built the church of atheisim into the mindset of the lab.

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by Mary Rose
reply to post by 23432

 

More on the heart, from "Atomic Art / Magic Squares":

The Anu

The smallest and indivisible unit of creation, similar to a quark. Leadbeater drew this “anu” which appears as a heart-shaped energetic field.

Interesting.

Leadbeater got it all wrong. The "anu"s come in 4 different type: hearts, spades, diamonds and clubs. He was ignorant of the other three kinds. This is encoded in four suits of the Tarot cards, and is a part of ancient knowledge. Tarot in itself is derived from "Turuq", which is an Arabic word for "passage" or "ways", which hints at a vortex connecting alternate realities. Thus, the card games were actually a spiritual journey and experiment trying to re-create the Universe out of its smallest building blocks, which are tightly wound structures of aetheric field, each vibrating at its own frequency. In fact, the Tarot cards came to Europe from Egypt, and it's theorized that the original card sets were used by ancient high priests as means to record and transmit their sacred knowledge. The fact that the pyramids have 4 faces is highly symbolic, as this corresponds to the 4 "anu"s found in Nature. The apex corresponds to converging "anu"s, which in combination result in a vortex (hence the funnel shape of the pyramid). It is entirely possible that the earliest card games were played in order to cause permutation of the "anu"s, via quantum entanglement, in a way that defeats gravity. This explains the incredible feat of building the Great Pyramid.

With passage of time, the sacred knowledge was lost and diluted. But still, the notion of four classical elements persisted through millenia. Now it's almost entirely forgotten that these are the "anu"s.

In divinatory tarot, the suits of cups, swords, batons/wands, and discs/coins are said to correspond to water, air, fire, and earth respectively.

edit on 31-1-2012 by buddhasystem because: (no reason given)

Leadbeater didn't get it wrong.

And what you said is also correct, in the right context, but it isn't when claiming it takes the place of leadbeater's idea.

Lead beater was tuning into the understanding of Cosmoses made of micro-cosmoses. All of which are Toroids suspended by their equal outer charge- like a colloidal silver solution i.e. the Macro-Quantum foam or first-prime density of the Aether... All other anus are combinations of various implosive depth charge clusters (i.e. contrast defines matter/energy) of the basic quantum foam's micro-Imploverses. Its also why the 5th platonic solid being quintessence is said to precede all and be the cause for all other possible shapes... the other 4 are consider to be combinations of quintessence in various forms i.e. just as a two triangles can make a square but no number of squares can make a perfect triangle. I know quintessence isn't a triangle I'm just giving a 2D example

Originally posted by Spiratio

All of which are Toroids suspended by their equal outer charge- like a colloidal silver solution i.e. the Macro-Quantum foam or first-prime density of the Aether...

A prime case of gobbledygook - you have managed to string together something with form and no meaning!

just came by to drop this off, someone wanted me to pass it on to the anti-Rodin rodents:

Effect of Conscious Intention on DNA by Glen Rein PhD

In addition to having a primary and secondary structure, DNA also has a tertiary structure. This refers to
the ability of the DNA helix to fold on itself. If the helix is like a piece of string one can readily visualize the
string randomly clumped together in a wad or neatly wound around a sphere or a tube. It has recently
been discovered through the use of modern advances in electron microscopy that the DNA helix can
actually fold on itself and form what is called “higher order structures” (like our strip wound around a tube)
(Marko and Siggia, 1994b). Even more surprising is the types of higher order structures DNA can in fact
form. By now it is well established that one of the higher order structures of DNA is the toroid (Bloomfield,
1991; Hud et al, 1995; Ubbink and Odijk, 1995)

The hypothesis presented below about the function of toroidal DNA has not been considered by the
molecular biology community. It is proposed here that the toroidal shape of DNA functions as an
antennae to allow DNA to sense subtle energies in the environment. In addition the hypothesis states that
toroidal DNA acts as a transducer converting subtle energy into conventional EM energy which is then
radiated from the DNA to produce a variety of intracellular events at the biochemical level. As mentioned
above, experimental evidence already exists indicating DNA emits EM fields in the form of coherent
photons (Rattemeyer, 1981)

The scientific basis for this Toroid Antennae Model of DNA function is founded in EM field theory and
some recent experimental data indicating a subtle energy field template around the physical DNA
molecule (Poponin, 1995). Conventional EM field theory is based on the assumption fields are generated
from point charges and radiate outward in a spherical manner from their source.
...
Beltrami first considered the possibility that EM fields might also be derived from
potential surfaces which are not spherical in shape (also know as topology) (Beltrami, 1889, 1985). He
proposed and mathematically demonstrated that EM fields could be generated from potentials with a
negative Gaussian curvature. Beltrami considered the toroid as a key negative Gaussian curvature
surface in his theory. His theory further demonstrated mathematically the topology of the EM fields
generated from toroidal potentials. Interestingly, the topology of these EM fields was described as
helicoid referring to their helical shape (Bjorgum and Godal, 1952). Beltrami’s theories have not been in
favor with most of the physics community, although Kovac has recently re-examined these theories and
used them to explain his anomalous results in the field of plasma physics (Kovac, 1996). Hull extended
Beltrami’s theory by demonstrating that the toroid is composed of two additional negative Gaussian
surfaces, the pseudosphere and the catenoid (Hull, 1996)

Originally posted by metalshredmetal
. . . the anti-Rodin rodents:

Nice alliteration.

Maybe at some point we'll have a truce and can have a normal discussion.

Hope springs eternal. (And we didn't start it.)

reply to post by metalshredmetal


Abha Torus

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by Spiratio

All of which are Toroids suspended by their equal outer charge- like a colloidal silver solution i.e. the Macro-Quantum foam or first-prime density of the Aether...

A prime case of gobbledygook - you have managed to string together something with form and no meaning!

such is the case to one who cannot/does not wish to think outside the box.

Yes sir, I mean, Ma'am!!

reply to post by Spiratio


I am happy to think outside the box - but that doesn't mean I can understand meaningless ramblings.

Originally posted by metalshredmetal
just came by to drop this off, someone wanted me to pass it on to the anti-Rodin rodents:

So does this have something to do with Rodin?

As I said, water goes down my drain in a vortex. This doesn't mean Rodin's coil has a black hole in it at the end of a vortex.

Likewise, Rodin's claim about DNA is that the double helix isn't a double helix, but there's a third invisible strand so it's really a triple helix. What you quoted seems to confirm Rodin is wrong about the triple helix.

As for the other hypotheses in your source, first, he admits they are hypotheses, which means unproven speculation or as Richard Feynman calls it, a "guess". Nothing wrong with guessing, that's the first step to science. But the second and third steps involve confirming the guess with observation and I see nothing about that in your source. Maybe he will test it and prove it, let us know if that happens then we can be impressed about some interesting findings, but even in that case, I don't see why this is any more relevant to Rodin's claims than water going down my drain in a vortex. Now if you have a credible source about the DNA double helix being discovered to really be a triple helix, then we can all give Rodin some credit for being right.

To put it another way, if Rodin's claim was that water goes down the drain in a vortex, I'd agree with him. But that's not what he claims.

reply to post by Americanist


This almost made me cry out of euphoric giddiness....glazed eyes like a stoner...wow. its the same thing you see in the pattern of a sunflowers Fibonacci spirals...

I'm also giddy at the ridiculousness that so many expect people to believe that toroids aren't real vortexes happening literally everywhere.This isn't a stab at those who don't know this info, its been suppressed but when you see the the implications of this field of study it's truly astounding.

Thanx for posting

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


Maybe you should go back and read some earlier posts to gain context.

Actually Mary,

Since this is your thread I think I should ask before doing this. Do you mind if I link the first post of mine (regarding the esoteric reduction etc and implosive space) in my signature with a reference as to why I don't respond to people who only quote small sections of what I say in unawareness or ignorance.

Originally posted by Spiratio
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

 

Maybe you should go back and read some earlier posts to gain context.

This is getting old. I tried to read your thread and found that it contains same sort of garbage that you post here. You can't use garbage to explain garbage.

You were asked about specific meaning of the ramblings you put on these pages, and every time you cop out.

reply to post by buddhasystem


And I provided links and told you I don't use same terminology as Rodin, deal with it k.

Also I know why you and your types conduct yourselves the way you do... You take out of context portions so that you can fabricate an argument to make others look like they are the ones not complying to honourable form.

So by linking that post to my sig people can also see exactly how you manipulate things form that point on. You keep posting again and again under the assumption that newcomers who come into the thread expressing disagreement and/or doubtfulness of the content in the first few pages of info, will then skip all the previous pages in between once they post and get responses later down the thread. Thus derailing them from seeing your true dishonourable form whereby you make outlandish claims and skew others words to fabricate arguments...You may think your smart and that you may be in certain ways just like all of us, but I know exactly what the pattern of yourself and those like you, is.

Originally posted by Spiratio
reply to post by buddhasystem

 

You take out of context portions so that you can fabricate an argument to make others look like they are the ones not complying to honourable form.

What exactly did I "take out of context"? You mentioned vacuum domain and how energy thrusts field etc.
That's enough context for clarifying the concepts you invented.

The only reason you keep muddling the waters because in essence you said zero, zelch, nada, but managed to use a hundred of pseudo-science terms.

Originally posted by buddhasystem
The only reason you keep muddling the waters because in essence you said zero, zelch, nada, but managed to use a hundred of pseudo-science terms.

I have the same problem with that Rockwell turbo encabulator video...I've heard most of the words before, but I've never heard them strung together in the precise sequence as in the Rockwell video...for example, "logarithmic casing". I know what logarithmic is, and I know what casing is, yet I can't seem to grasp the concept of logarithmic casing.

I'm having the same kind of difficulty understanding what spirato is trying to say which is why I asked him if he wrote the script for the turbo encabulator video.

Marko Rodin too seems to have this talent, of stringing words together so I can't understand them, such as when he says that the number 9 is the particle known as dark matter. I know what a number is, and I know what a particle is, but I can't quite grasp how a number is a particle.

People who make such statements really owe it to us who are trying to figure all this stuff out, to explain themselves better.

reply to post by Arbitrageur


It's a philosophical disconnect.

I'm not so hard wired either. I tend to think people owe it to themselves to appreciate synergy and simplistic notions.

Articulating new concepts invites colorful wordplay.

If you are discomforted by people who put concepts together loosely, why do you bait them?