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Originally posted by beebs
Oh man... I don't know what else to say. I want to be nice, but you clearly have not read or looked into a single thing I have posted in dozens of posts... I thought maybe you would be doing your own research in your spare time, but apparently you just glance at what I post and assume I don't understand what I am posting.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by beebs
In a 3D interference pattern which is an emanating, nesting torus of counter-rotating opposite phase standing waves.
What is emanating torus? What is nesting torus? I though that birds were nesting, not tori.
My sister had barbie dolls but she never had any Russian dolls, what do they have to do with nesting? There is definitely a language barrier here.
Originally posted by beebs
Nesting is nesting. Think Russian dolls.
Originally posted by Bobathon
nobody is saying Rodin is Newton
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by beebs
In a 3D interference pattern which is an emanating, nesting torus of counter-rotating opposite phase standing waves.
What is emanating torus? What is nesting torus? I though that birds were nesting, not tori.
My sister had barbie dolls but she never had any Russian dolls, what do they have to do with nesting? There is definitely a language barrier here.
Originally posted by beebs
Nesting is nesting. Think Russian dolls.
It's almost like Rodin and others have taken words from the English language and hijacked them to gove them different meanings but haven't defined the different meanings.
And Beebs, it seems like you're doing the same thing.
Not only is the reference to Russian Dolls pretty opaque to me as a means of defining nesting, but even worse is the definition "nesting is nesting", how is that supposed to clarify the meaning?
Isn't there a better word than "nesting" to describe what you mean? And if nesting is the correct word, can't you do better than "Nesting is nesting. Think Russian dolls."?
Words have meaning. (or at least they are supposed to). Please try to recognize that words have meaning and choose them carefully. In the arena of science and mathematics, precise definitions of words become even more important to clearly express precise meanings. If one scientist wants to duplicate an experiment of another scientist (or if a mathematician wants to replicate a mathematical result), communication must be as clear and unambiguous as possible to facilitate this.
It's easier to build strong children than to repair broken men - Frederick Douglass
That's why I'm asking for what I'm asking for. Very simple: just one explanation of just one thing in the real world that you or anyone can explain from his theories. (Not ten thousand, like I could give you for Newton. I'm making it easy, because nobody is saying Rodin is Newton. Just one.)
How do ANY of the links contain calculation of quark mass etc based on Rodin's sudoku? Please answer.
"Continuum mechanics" is not an adequate answer.
Hello? That is not an explanation of what Rodin's ideas have to do with the real world. It's a name for some shapes.
Originally posted by Americanist
That's why I'm asking for what I'm asking for. Very simple: just one explanation of just one thing in the real world that you or anyone can explain from his theories. (Not ten thousand, like I could give you for Newton. I'm making it easy, because nobody is saying Rodin is Newton. Just one.)
Two words: Platonic Solids
It's a lot more than just talking about some stuff and spotting something that reminds someone of something. It's the real thing. I know Rodin talks about some stuff. He might be very entertaining. But if it has nothing to do with reality, then I ain't interested, cause I got some great solid real theories that I know connect to reality (because I questioned the hell out of them and they stood up to it all). And when I want stories, I read good fiction. You get me?
That's why I'm asking for what I'm asking for. Very simple: just one explanation of just one thing in the real world that you or anyone can explain from his theories. (Not ten thousand, like I could give you for Newton. I'm making it easy, because nobody is saying Rodin is Newton. Just one.)
My sister had barbie dolls but she never had any Russian dolls, what do they have to do with nesting? There is definitely a language barrier here.
And Beebs, it seems like you're doing the same thing.
Isn't there a better word than "nesting" to describe what you mean? And if nesting is the correct word, can't you do better than "Nesting is nesting. Think Russian dolls."?
Words have meaning. (or at least they are supposed to). Please try to recognize that words have meaning and choose them carefully. In the arena of science and mathematics, precise definitions of words become even more important to clearly express precise meanings. If one scientist wants to duplicate an experiment of another scientist (or if a mathematician wants to replicate a mathematical result), communication must be as clear and unambiguous as possible to facilitate this.
Originally posted by beebs
reply to post by Bobathon
As for what we can observe in nature that has to do with VBM - everything. Mapping toroid wave function 'grain'(sorry, but that is the best term) of space, understanding fluid mechanics better - such as why nature chooses a spiral vortex for regulating temperature, exchanging density in volumes, etc... why spiraling is the best geometry to achieve transfer of a substance from one place to another - because it is inherent in space-time and represents the motion of all natural mechanics.
I still do not understand how the arrangement of numbers correspond to anything. He just basically said "here are some neat patterns" and "here is a neat diagram" and started talking about how time emanates from the center of his diagram, without even connecting it to time at all. Wow 2^(n-1) is congruent to n and repeats in cycles when cross-adding that must mean energy can be harnessed from nothing!
More lists of what "it has to do with". You can see that you're not explaining anything, right?
Originally posted by beebs
As for what we can observe in nature that has to do with VBM - everything. Mapping toroid wave function 'grain'(sorry, but that is the best term) of space, understanding fluid mechanics better - such as why nature chooses a spiral vortex for regulating temperature, exchanging density in volumes, etc... why spiraling is the best geometry to achieve transfer of a substance from one place to another - because it is inherent in space-time and represents the motion of all natural mechanics.
If you want to communicate it to people who aren't just willing to swallow whatever you say without thinking, then you have to be able to explain what it's for and give something to back it up.
I don't know, at this point its all self-evident to me... mostly because of the context I am familiar with, and which I study every day.
Great. Then explain something using this math. Show how it can be used to predict phenomena already known or new phenomena. Solve a problem in fluid dynamics if it's all so elementary. Show your work, use equations, do something to show how these mathematical concepts are not just arbitrary. For example, maybe explain why he chooses powers of 2 instead of 3 or 4 or 5 or even 9 to "show" his work.
If you want to communicate it to people who aren't just willing to swallow whatever you say without thinking, then you have to be able to explain what it's for and give something to back it up.
Otherwise you're just preaching to the converted, and you'll find that every single person who has questions about it will treat you as if you're talking nonsense. Nothing will change.