"Vortex Based Mathematics by Marko Rodin"

From "Gospel of Reason":

reply to post by Mary Rose


Mary, as I see, you again put on your blinders. You can easily measure the circumference of any round object in your house, like big pots in your kitchen, and compare these values to respective diameters. It's cold dead easy.

And so, the value of PI can be estimated even in an experiment, and as such it's not really a "theory". Sorry but the last word makes connection to the utterly moronic crowd that says "evolution is only a theory". Well, it is, but one that's goddamn solid. And by the way, making an estimation of PI is dead simple compared to looking at nuances of evolution.

reply to post by buddhasystem


Have you no sense of humor?

Anyway, I don't think measuring a pot would be accurate.

Originally posted by Mary Rose
reply to post by buddhasystem

 

Have you no sense of humor?

Anyway, I don't think measuring a pot would be accurate.

It's still better than measuring NOTHING.

Any sane human being can easily measure things up to 10^-3 decimal place precision with almost no effort, and much more precisely if need be. My teachers told me that measurement skills were the gauge of human development. I mean, there is no guarantee that some humans shall not remain still at the animal level of consciousness and won't be able to tell 3.1 from 3.5, but hell, we are species that are striving to evolve, right? Some of us already did.

Originally posted by Mary Rose
. . . mathematician by the name of John A. Parker, who wrote a book entitled Quadrature of the Circle . . . "Propositions Demonstrating the Relative Properties of Straight and Curved Lines."

Originally posted by Mary Rose
"SVP Notes - Pi":

The true value of PI as given by Keely/Parker is 20612 : 6561 which must remain an integer ratio of two whole numbers and NEVER REDUCED to a decimal equivalent, which is where the error comes in. These numbers are to be regarded as parts of a whole relative to each other.

Key words:

. . . which is where the error comes in. These numbers are to be regarded as parts of a whole . . .

It's a different paradigm - not a different answer.

Originally posted by Mary Rose
"Propositions Demonstrating the Relative Properties of Straight and Curved Lines."

Proposition XII:

"The true ratio of circumference to diameter of all circles, is four times the area of one circle inscribed in one square for the ratio of circumference, to the area of the circumscribed square for the ratio of diameter. And hence the true and primary ratio of circumference to diameter of all circles is 20612 parts of circumference to 6561 parts of diameter."

Originally posted by Mary Rose

Searl Magnetics is making progress, I'm very happy to see...

The description:

Uploaded by johnsearlstory on Dec 12, 2011

Searl states that (in the past) he had access to industrial tooling, magnetizers and skilled personnel. Searl Magnetics has endeavored to create a working lab to make the component parts and magnetize them with the required fields.

John Searl: "To hell with the experts; we are the experts, not them!"

reply to post by Mary Rose


Mary, how exactly is producing a metal cylinder progress? Or are you being sarcastic about your own belief? (it is kind of hard to know when you are making a joke or when you are serious, like above with your post about pi).

reply to post by -PLB-


Are you trying to be obnoxious?

The progress I'm talking about is Searl Magnetics acquiring the Computer Numerical Controlled (CNC) lathe. It is an accomplishment for people like Searl who have to fight the powers that be right and left to get anywhere.

reply to post by Mary Rose


Well, I guess with the complete lack of any progress in anything relevant or interesting, this is something to celebrate.

reply to post by -PLB-

Numerical Values The Hebrew alphabet is alphanumeric: each Hebrew letter also has a numerical value and can be used as a number. The q has a value of 100; the v has a value of 6; thus, the normal spelling would yield a numerical value of 106. The addition of the h, with a value of 5, increases the numerical value to 111. This indicates an adjustment of the ratio 111/106, or 31.41509433962 cubits. Assuming that a cubit was 1.5 ft.,3 this 15-foot-wide bowl would have had a circumference of 47.12388980385 feet. This Hebrew "code" results in 47.12264150943 feet, or an error of less than 15 thousandths of an inch! (This error is 15 times better than the 22/7 estimate that we were accustomed to using in school!) How did they accomplish this? This accuracy would seem to vastly exceed the precision of their instrumentation. How would they know this? How was it encoded into the text?

www.khouse.org...

Originally posted by Mary Rose
The progress I'm talking about is Searl Magnetics acquiring the Computer Numerical Controlled (CNC) lathe. It is an accomplishment for people like Searl who have to fight the powers that be right and left to get anywhere.

How does a purchase of a commonplace and standard tool qualify as progress? It's hilarious that they decided to produce an actual video of the lathe spinning. I guess some backward people with no knowledge of anything will have some sort of amazement reaction -- wow, it spins! Wow, it's "numerical"!

CNC dates back to 1956. It's remarkable that Searl tried to pass it as some kind of credential, or testament to validity of his "research".

I'll go to Home Depot and buy an expensive drill and some diamond-tipped bits. Surely this is guarantee that next week I'll assemble a perpetual motion machine.

These kooks have infinite potential for being pathetic.

reply to post by buddhasystem


Searl has know-how, about which you have no clue.

I don't care how long the equipment has been around. The fact is, it can be utilized to produce his invention. And the fact that he has been able to acquire it in the environment innovators like him work within, is an accomplishment.

Your smug dismissal is irrelevant, in that you obviously don't acknowledge the harassment people like Searl endure.

Ridicule: A camouflage for

1. Fear
   
2. Ignorance (laziness)
   

reply to post by Mary Rose


You invite ridicule because you shun any rational reasoning. Ridicule happens when someone is too proud and ignorant at the same time. Even worse when that person is proud of their ignorance. How can you not mock a person like that, even when that person attempts to project an obviously false image of reasonability?

Originally posted by Mary Rose
reply to post by buddhasystem

 

Searl has know-how, about which you have no clue.

Right on, Mary. It's not only me who's clueless about Searl's know-how, in fact the rest of humanity including Searl himself. He's got nothing to show for the supposed "know-how", which rather seems to be "don't-know-how".

I don't care how long the equipment has been around. The fact is, it can be utilized to produce his invention.

Well, if we are to believe this buffoon, he was able to produce gravity defying perpetual motion machine with simple tool decades ago. Obviously CNC is of no importance for manufacture of cylindrical objects that he needs for this machine.

And the fact that he has been able to acquire it in the environment innovators like him work within, is an accomplishment.

Tools can be bought online with one mouse click, delivery and all. If you think this is an accomplishment, your bar is way, way, way low. At this rate, it won't be long before you declare that using toilet paper is a sign of genius.

Originally posted by Mary Rose

Ridicule: A camouflage for

1. Fear

Fear of what?

1. All that time learning stuff that's not valid was wasted.
   
2. All that money spent learning stuff that's not valid was wasted.
   
3. An occupation may not be in the best interests of humanity.
   
4. Embarrassment for having been fooled.
   

How can one tell when a member is being objective in his/her post?

Simple, plain English is used with no embellishment for effect.

Originally posted by Mary Rose

Originally posted by Mary Rose

Ridicule: A camouflage for

1. Fear

Fear of what?

1. All that time learning stuff that's not valid was wasted.
   
2. All that money spent learning stuff that's not valid was wasted.
   
3. An occupation may not be in the best interests of humanity.
   
4. Embarrassment for having been fooled. of mine,
   

"Learning stuff that's not valid" -- no, this doesn't check out. I did electrical wiring in two construction projects of mine, and it performs amazingly well (in addition to passing inspections). In my early teens, I built a very simple shortwave radio based on the knowledge I got from books, and I was stunned when I found that I could receive signals from most of Europe. I did so many interesting experiments in the lab that I can't really count them all. So Mary, it's plenty valid.

As for embarrassment, -- puh-leeze. You guys are making fools of yourself day in, day out, with lack of basic knowledge of anything, really, and explicit refusal to make an effort to learn stuff (as opposed to paying for New Age sort of crap and feeling "spiritual").