200 cows found dead in a field

Have they ruled out electrocution? I know a farmer who lost 50 cattle when lightning struck a field, the cows didn't look burned or damage but it must have stopped their hearts. Freak occurence, very weird but he witnessed it himself.

As for everyone saying these mass die offs are more common, have you considered that maybe they are being reported more because of the hype surrounding a few incidents and so it's a self fufilling prophecy. I mean seriously these die offs have been happening for years and years and all of a sudden people get freaked out by it.

I live in minnesota and have a small cattle farm ..my cattle are outside year round ive got a lean to for them to get into if the wind is bad or alot of snow ive never had a cow die from the cold ever..Ive had a few cows die over the years but mostly from old age or calfs that didnt make it after birth for unknown reasons..I know i check on my cattle almost everyday to see if there all there and make sure there ok when you lose a cow your loseing alot of money and time put into them plus feed..now that farmer has his cows on a small amount of land when he feeds them there hay or grain he should be able to see if there is a problem cuz they all come running when there is food..even if the farmer uses big round bales he has to feed them about every 2 days with that amount of cattle i feed mine everyday since its winter and no pasture and they need the extra food to keep warm..my thought is either virus or maybe the hay had alot of mold in it that happens when the hay wasnt dry at the time of baleing the hay stays damp inside and grows black mold and that can kill cattle or make them very sick.. cattle arent known for being to smart..but i think something strange is going on my cattle ive noticed are hanging out in the pasture near my house they never do this in the winter there always over by the loafing shead its like there staying close for safety maybe weather related i dont know ..but what ever is going on with this farmers cattle does not happen everyday.. time will tell if they tell us the truth about what happened ..in the meantime im checking on mine twice a day something is up!

reply to post by Phantom28804


What you have to understand, these cows in the wintertime come to the owner, the owner doesn't have to go to them. The cows are hungry. Cows are used to a routine. As soon as they hear the truck they line up and go to it, or they go to a certain spot to get their cake. Each of these cows is worth at least $1,000 on each four hoofs. If they don't show up at their regular place and time the owner will certainly go looking for them. So whatever happened to these 200 happened outside of their routine. It would be like you missing 200 flat screen TVs if they disappeared from your house. How long would it take you to notice that?

Originally posted by pitchdragon
this so funny this is denial from msn and scientist
it is clear that we are currently experiencing something beyond ourselves but everyone does not see it ... then continue to pretend ...
hoping that it will not be too painful when it's our turn

well said!

something strange is happening thats for sure.

s&f

They said the owner had been working with the vet,As in these cows where already sick.. Make it into what you want though, i know you all will.

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984


Depends on if they have horns. Ya I've lost stock from lighting and it pisses me off. Always the good stock to. it happens to horses that have shoes on. but in winter you remove the shoes..

reply to post by ShogunAssassins


Where did you find such info? There is NOTHING about this 'cows already being sick'. There is nothing at all about the 200 simultaneous cow death, but a few sentences.

I cannot find any hits for shale gas plays in Wisconsin, but they are indeed there according to a map.

It could have been a methane rupture which suffocated them. One thing's for sure. They won't tell an inconvenient truth.

Maybe just maybe now, the animal die off just seems out of this world because every animal die off is getting media attention. Normally you do not hear about this but since it is a slow news cycle the MSM is reporting all and any animal die off. So we as the people are hearing about this more and more and it seems strange to us. Maybe they are making something that is not really news worthy into something that can be news worthy. The MSM are great at blowing things out of proportion for profit.. Just a theory.

Originally posted by ShogunAssassins
They said the owner had been working with the vet,As in these cows where already sick.. Make it into what you want though, i know you all will.

edit on 15-1-2011 by ShogunAssassins because: (no reason given)

I'm not trying to make this into a extraterrestrial event.. The article does not say the vet was working on all these cows because they were sick.. Why would they even report it ? I'm not making this into a conspiracy.

Quick someone track down weather radar replays for this place.

reply to post by operation mindcrime

I mean, don't they usually have to do all kinds of things with the samples in a lab before they can conclude that a virus was the culprit. And if so, the entire area would probably be under lock down and remaining cattle being destroyed preemptively?? How about neighboring farms?? That whole area is probably in a state of panic, right??

First any established farmer has a "closed herd" It is just too risky not to keep your herd separate from others of the same species. Second new animals have health checks and are generally quarantined before adding to the herd. Show animals are generally kept separate for fear of bringing disease into the breeding herd. These are just common sense practices.

Second I do not know about this guy but every time I feed I do a nose and eye check and see if I have any laggards (feeling sick?) coming in for feeding. (I have goats and sheep)

Third you better believe there are quarantine procedures in place WORLD WIDE!

If it was cause by a virus NO ONE would be allowed in or out of the area, and DEPOPULATION would begin.

What is DEPOPULATION?

...on page 31:

"Should USDA officially confirm the presence of a disease, such as Foot and Mouth Disease, the affected herd and all cattle, sheep, goats, swine, and susceptible wildlife—infected or not— within a minimum 10-kilometer zone around the infected farm would be killed." www.gao.gov...

GO TO THE LINK BELOW AND READ THE MANUAL FOR YOURSELF! THE 48 HOUR TRACEBACK IS NOT SO THEY CAN VACCINATE, ETC., IT IS TO "DEPOPULATE/STAMP OUT" ALL "SUSCEPTABLE" ANIMALS IN A GIVEN RADIUS. THOSE 48 HOURS ARE NOT JUST TO FIND YOUR ANIMALS...BUT TO KILL THEM!


www.fao.org...

CHECK OUT THIS LINK ON THE USDA KILLING FIELDS!

nonaiswa.org...

NEVER HEARD OF A "DEPOP TRUCK"? CHECK OUT PAGE 429 UNDER THE “Protocol for Euthanasia of Backyard Premises”

Foreword

Stamping out is a recognized and proven strategy for rapid elimination of an introduced exotic disease or other emergency livestock disease. The crucial elements of stamping out are:

* designation of infected zones;
* intensive disease surveillance to identify infected premises and dangerous-contact premises or villages within these zones;
* imposition of quarantine and livestock movement restrictions;
* immediate slaughter of all susceptible animals either on the infected and dangerous-contact premises or in the whole infected area;
* safe disposal of their carcasses and other potentially infected materials;
* disinfection and cleaning of infected premises;
* maintaining these premises depopulated of susceptible animals for a suitable period.

Stamping out is often the most cost-effective strategy. The disease eradication campaign is shorter and achieved for a lower overall cost and there is a shorter waiting period before the country can be recognized as free of the disease and resume export of livestock and animal products.

Several social, economic and other factors need to be evaluated before stamping out is selected as the strategy for a disease contingency plan. These include:

* whether or not slaughter of infected animals is likely to gain community acceptance on religious, ethnic, animal welfare and other social and economic grounds;
* advantages, disadvantages and likely success of implementation of other strategies;

(In this context it should be noted that vaccination is not available for some epidemic livestock diseases and stamping out is the only viable option. African swine fever is such a disease. At the other end of the spectrum, for some diseases stamping out is unlikely to have much effect. This particularly applies to insect-borne diseases such as Rift Valley fever and bluetongue.)

* whether or not the manpower, equipment, and other physical resources are available to carry out all activities needed for the implementation of a stamping-out campaign;

(Whilst stamping out is likely to be less costly and more efficient overall, it may be quite resource-intensive in the short term.)

* whether adequate provisions are available for fair and quick compensation of owners for livestock or property destroyed in the campaign.

Well organized veterinary services that have the full political support of the government are crucial to the success of the disease-eradication campaign. The full support of other services such as the police, army and public works is essential. The final important element is prior preparation of a comprehensive contingency plan for the disease in question.

This manual does not discuss strategic issues. For these, reference should be made to the FAO Manual on the preparation of national animal disease emergency plans and manuals on preparation of contingency plans for specific diseases such as rinderpest and African swine fever.

This is a procedures manual: how to carry out important activities in a disease stamping-out campaign. It is divided into three parts:

1. Destruction of animals
2. Disposal procedures
3. Decontamination....

I think you get the idea.

reply to post by snoochieboochies


They did it in 2005, I think it came out then, not sure but they are never up to date, I googled my house which I moved from in 2008, they are now using a picture of my house with my car in front of it, so no they never update it.

reply to post by sugarcookie1

.....i dont know ..but what ever is going on with this farmers cattle does not happen everyday.. time will tell if they tell us the truth about what happened ..in the meantime im checking on mine twice a day something is up!

I have brought all my animals in next to the house where I can keep an eye on them too. I have a pair of binoculars and check them several times a day. do not sleep well so I check them at night too.

reply to post by TheBigO



Dude I've been around Cows till i'm sick of it. 200 dead Cows is a huge deal.. I have never ever seen that. Media or no Media...

I quote nostradamus

Century 1, Quatrain 67

The great famine which I sense approaching
Will often turn [up in various areas] then become worldwide.
It will be so vast and long-lasting that [people] will grab
Roots from the trees and children from the breast

maybe he wasnt exactly right when he said famine maybe just strang occurences like this ..... the bird... the fish and the crabs was it?

reply to post by operation mindcrime


ok my dear Let the undercurrent drag you along, doesn't really change much of anything. the cattle are still located on a sizable farm, with few neighbors a good distance away. i'm not sure anyone has determined whether or not they were beef cattle or milkers, so once again it's entirely possible that the farmer had no interaction with the cattle for a few days and they all died due to disease or a virus. it's still the dead of winter with tons of snow on the ground.

the point is the facts aren't all in yet, simply claiming it's impossible for that many cattle to die and no one notice is absurd as it did happen. so far it looks like a death by natural causes (virus). perhaps we'll find that the farmer did poison them, or that indeed all the 'fraidy cats are correct and it's some global phenomenon that's wiping out groups of animals for some strange reason and we're next! but untill we know for sure, perhaps some people should stop claiming they know what did or didn't happen when these groups of animals died. nature is far more strange than many give it credit, simply because something hasn't happened before in such large numbers is not reason to immediately claim it's impossible.

reply to post by rancher1


I agree with that statement! thats alot of money lost on that farm.. if that event happened in my town id know about it in 5 mins every farmer would be calling me in that area i wouldnt need the media and it is a huge deal! the thought of all my cattle being put down would put me back alot of money but would have to be done if the cattle were sick with a virus thats just a fact..

reply to post by jwil0587


or perhaps you're trying to fit the facts to nostradamus' prophecy to make it seem like something more to make sense of it all, even though the facts don't fit his prophecy at all. if he meant strange things, he would have said strange things. sometimes we all get scared when strange things happen, but it's not the end of the world. don't worry.

reply to post by crimvelvet


thats a good idea this worrys me being so close to home..

reply to post by optimus primal


Very true