Crop Circles

reply to post by elysiumfire

The thing is...you never get one appearing in awful weather; in a snowstorm or a torrential downpour. If their authors were truly intelligent off-world entities, their technology and advanced capability would overcome both snow and rain, and other inclement weather situations. The truth is, as enigmatic and artistically interesting as their appearance present them to be, crop circles are nothing more than a small cottage-industry for tourism in the area they appear.

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haha nice try

Hmmmmmm..... well after reading through this thread it is clear that many people have fallen victim the propaganda campaign of all crop circles being "man made."
Simply put, if you have actually done some solid research into this and spent atleast month of looking into it in your off time then you WILL realize that a good portion of the circles are something far more complicated than men with boards. It could still be man, but the technology has to be highly advanced.
So, that leaves either Aliens or a secret government entity with the technology to carry out this kind of operation. Really, sometimes you English folks surprise me with your ignorance to history. Can you not see that it is NOT a coincidence that over 90% of crop circles happen on your little island??? They do not happen next to some of the most historically significant monuments on the planet for no reason.

So please, look into it more, don't ask for links and "proof." GO find it yourself, it is out there.

reply to post by simples


In addition:

www.greatdreams.com...

Read there "'THE CIA AND THE CROP CIRCLES"

It could be something like that or it is only a self-advertising, because he
cannot prove that those people have been from CIA.

reply to post by dplum517


please keep on topic instead of trying to slag us british people, ignorant in history? remember where your a vast part of your population came from!

we are not ignorant and we do no our history do not stereotype us because 1 person may not no there history.

keep on topic pleases.

MOD i think thats a fair comment

reply to post by realitydiscovered


great find thank you i will read through that when i have more time as it is quite alot of information

reply to post by realitydiscovered


How the hell was I off topic?????????

sometimes you English folks surprise me with your ignorance to history.

reply to post by dplum517


how is that on topic please explain CAREFULLY!

reply to post by simples


Well lets see,
- The thread is on Crop Circles
- Most Crop Circles happen in England
- Some of the posters on this thread are English
- Some of the posters are claiming all Crop Circles are man made with boards
- Some of the posters have ignored evidence as to where and why they appear

Sounds pretty on topic to me.... I said "some" of you english folk.... not "all." So sorry if you think you are getting lumped into a group, that wasn't my intention.

apolagy accepted that once sentance was off topic anyway the rest off it is all true and i think alot of people are thinking "well that crop circle was man made its proven! so al the rest are therefor manmind" you can fake someones death and it doesnt mean they are dead

Peace, the druids connection or the so-called return of the druids
can be also discussed here.

Maybe we should talk more about the 'magneticism' or 'vibration' people has been talking about feeling inside these crop circles..

Now that is something interesting indeed, and worth to look into more I believe.
That is in my opinion some evidence that this couldn't be man made, atleast not by any conventional means that we 'normal humans/sheeple' know of..

One thing to add is this. In the 'spiritual world' and upcomming thing that I see very often is that geometrical shapes has a very important meaning to them, I'm not sure what but this is the truth in many old cultures/religions and societies..

Now I'm an artist myself, and what is art without a message? that is meaningless art to me..
Still if these are man made, they must mean something right?
Why else would people do something which is actually illegal like this?
For the thrill?

I don't think so. There must me something more to this. I mean, even Graffiti painters has more meaning to their artworks than 'a plain boring crop circle does' if there ain't no meanin at all to them that is.

To add also is, some of these crop circles are huge! how many people and co-operation would be needed for that?

Now that must be one hell of a mission right?
damn, what a project.. All done on one night..
This must be material worth to add to the next Mission impossible movie, right folks?

Originally posted by simples
reply to post by elysiumfire

 

The thing is...you never get one appearing in awful weather; in a snowstorm or a torrential downpour. If their authors were truly intelligent off-world entities, their technology and advanced capability would overcome both snow and rain, and other inclement weather situations. The truth is, as enigmatic and artistically interesting as their appearance present them to be, crop circles are nothing more than a small cottage-industry for tourism in the area they appear.

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haha nice try

Nice video...

Now are you all serious when saying the MEN that made these snow circles simple jumped between the circles leaving no foot-prints between the circles?

I can't buy that at all...
Ans as far as I saw, I saw no footprints on the video..

But could be worth looking into if we find more images oc 'snowcircles' on the web.
Post them here and we'll see if we find any foot-prints.

If we don't, well.. Then I guess it was Tom cruise who came there wit ha chopper and dropped down, no wait! make that a parachute-operation instead.. (Choppers sound too much)

And ofcourse he solo-made this thing in 1 hour with a jetpack on his back (reason for no footprints). Using his high tech Illuminati-secret laser melting gun! Whoa!


(sorry for the sarcasm but it is just plainly ridiculus too claim some guys make these big creations with a plank + a great mathematic skill of '6th sense' that must be then aswell..
Not to mention the great nightvision they must have... Oh yeah Tom cruise. He did have Nightvision googles right? long time since i watched those movies)

reply to post by Triztheone


Yes, I’m inclined to this way of considerations and it has its solid base:

www.checktheevidence.com...

www.cropcircleanswers.com...

These last few replies are exactly what I was talking about before.

There are no facts in there, only "I really think it has to be something else, because... c'mon!" gut feeling and reaction and emotion. Just pretending things are a certain way doesn't make them so.

For one, I think people aren't realizing how much potential people have. Also, look at how much attention crop circles get, then try to claim they're doing it for no reason again.

I'd still love to see some specific examples of crop circles that had this mysterious vibrations or radiations and so on. All I've heard is people talk vaguely about it, and expect that just using the claim that some have radiation or strange magnetism or vibration in the ground afterwards is going to change anything. It's just hearsay unless there are specific examples that have been scientifically verified (unfortunately, it'd be very difficult to tell if the sites hadn't been like that before the crop circle appeared as well).

Of course I'm open to the possibility. I'm open to every possibility. I'm just not banking on it. It takes evidence to change my mind, not anecdotes or fantasy or fancy words. I doubt I'm alone in this way of thinking.

Origin of Crop Circles Baffles Scientists Leslie Kean, The Providence Journal original source | fair use notice Summary: SINCE THE RECENT release of the movie Signs, crop circles have been thrust into the limelight. Such major publications as Scientific American and U.S. News and World Report have echoed the common belief that all crop circles are made by stealthy humans flattening plants with boards. This assumption would be fair enough if we had no information suggesting otherwise. However, intriguing data published in peer-reviewed scientific journals clearly establishes that some of these geometric designs, found in dozens of countries, are not made by "pranks with planks." In fact, a study about to be published by a team of scientists and funded by Laurance Rockefeller concludes "it is possible that we are observing the effects of a new or as yet undiscovered energy source."

reply to post by EsSeeEye


there you go, i think this is called evidence

evidence

reply to post by simples


First, that's from 2002. I looked, but couldn't find any of the peer-reviewed journals or actual site information about any of the claims made in that article (from a UFO website, none-the-less). It makes the same claims I was just pointing out how annoyed I was at before. Baseless claims of altered DNA, radiation and so on without citing any specific examples of when, where, which circles, or anything of the sort.

Is it interesting? Sure. But hardly conclusive of anything.

you wanted evidence are the results of theses people not credible enough or is it you just dont agree because it doesnt agree with you ideas and beliefs?

reply to post by simples


It's a website devoted to UFOs, they're biased. Do you not see that they did the same thing I was railing against the people in this thread doing?

It's a decent article, and like I said, it's interesting. But it's the same thing we've already heard, with no more light shed on anything. Maintaining a mystery isn't proof of anything, it's simply prolonging the unknown. It makes me curious, would people rather see crop circles maintained a mystery forever, never fully understood, or would they rather know the truth, even if that truth were that it's just people with planks.

You look at threads like this, and it's hard to imagine that the majority of people actually want to know the truth, regardless of what that truth is.

i totally agree with most of what you just said, yes that web site could be biased however are scientists FACTS biased?

reply to post by EsSeeEye


For some reason I am having a hard time really believeing you are "open to any possibility". This isn't an attack against you by any means, I just noticed how you are so quick to discount all these links as "hearsay" and the way you group human reactions about things as insignificant. It just gives the appearance that you are not as open minded as you'd like us to believe.

You say the link one poster provided to you is no good because it came from a website dealing with ufo material. Where exactly else would it be posted? Science is painfully slow or restricted one (also very narrow minded at times) so I doubt you'd ever see anything about this published in a reputable paper. They always seem to not be concerned with things that are not easily explained away....

As far as gut feelings and emotions being unimportant, yeah okay....just a bunch of chemical reactions right? That's what science says! That's all everything is isn't it lol

I encourage you to open up! Of course, who am I? You probably label me as one of those "new-agers" hahaha. I found out a while back those I use to think were crazy actually weren't, and vice versa. Maybe in time you will see the same?