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Imagine that billions of years ago, there was no physical universe at all. The only thing that existed was "God" - an entirely incorporeal spirit. He was pure thought: Absolute Mind. After eons of contemplation, God reached an extraordinary decision: he was going to commit suicide. It was time for him to bring about the most momentous event of all time - his own death. The Death of God.
But how does God kill himself? Isn't it impossible by definition? After all, you can't kill the eternal, the immortal, the deathless. You can't kill existence itself, and that's exactly what God was: existence itself. And if he was all there was, what would be left when he was dead?
God understood that the only true death he could experience would be one of transformation; he could make himself into a new form of existence. He would be reincarnated, so to speak. He would no longer be pure mind but would incorporate a revolutionary new substance that he had decided to create - matter. Yet matter, because it came from God, would be infused with "Godness". Every particle of matter, regardless of how humble and seemingly insignificant, would be a spark of God. And all of these sparks would, buried within them, have an irresistible desire to reconstitute God.
God's infinitely inspired idea was that the ultimate creative act was to create himself. God was going to become God. There could be no more divine deed.
So God, a being who did not exist in physical space, a being who existed outside of space and time, a being of infinite power, of infinite spiritual and intellectual energy, decided to self-detonate - to turn that infinite energy of the mind into the infinite physical energy of the universe of matter. He would die in order to be reborn. Eons after his "death", all of the physical particles that his death had liberated - the great multitude of "divine sparks" - would find a way to bring him back to life in a new form. He would give birth to himself.
Originally posted by PhantomLimb
reply to post by smithjustinb
So good is evil and up is down?
reply to post by smithjustinb
In other words, I am you and you are me, and we are minerals, animals, and trees. We ARE the earth. We are the stars. We are the spiral galaxies, and beyond. And all these things are us.
Is it right to put yourself equal to God? I say, YES. It's not like we're trying to put ourselves above God.
reply to post by NorEaster
The empirical evidence that supports the notion of the identified unique whole that exists as independently determinable within the larger selection of that which shares contextual commonality seems overwhelming.
Originally posted by NorEaster
The empirical evidence that supports the notion of the identified unique whole that exists as independently determinable within the larger selection of that which shares contextual commonality seems overwhelming. Can you explain this?
In other words, why don't I agree with you if I am you? Please include your arithmetic with your answer.
Thanks.
Originally posted by mysticnoon
reply to post by NorEaster
The empirical evidence that supports the notion of the identified unique whole that exists as independently determinable within the larger selection of that which shares contextual commonality seems overwhelming.
This may be so, but what is also pertinent is the basic tenet of quantum mechanics which states that the world "out there" does not have an objective existence independent of our observation of it.
Originally posted by mysticnoon
Is it right to put yourself equal to God? I say, YES. It's not like we're trying to put ourselves above God.
Is the drop of water equal to the ocean itself? Only when the drop ceases to exist and merges into the ocean.
There is no equality to God, in my opinion, because then God would be Two, not One. Perhaps if we become
no-one, then we are One?
reply to post by smithjustinb
When I feel and see the oneness perception, it feels like I am in touch with infinity, but that just may be because the universe is so vast and that just seems like its infinity.
Originally posted by mysticnoon
reply to post by smithjustinb
When I feel and see the oneness perception, it feels like I am in touch with infinity, but that just may be because the universe is so vast and that just seems like its infinity.
Or perhaps in that "oneness perception" the space/time constructs of everyday awareness drop away so that there are no observable boundaries to our sense of self and existence.
edit on 15-1-2011 by mysticnoon because: Dropped an e
Originally posted by NorEaster
The empirical evidence that supports the notion of the identified unique whole that exists as independently determinable within the larger selection of that which shares contextual commonality seems overwhelming. Can you explain this?
In other words, why don't I agree with you if I am you? Please include your arithmetic with your answer.
Thanks.
Originally posted by NewlyAwakened
so no matter what you always see yourself as a unified whole (unless of course the one at the helm is the "observing ego" developed through meditation).
edit on 16-1-2011 by NewlyAwakened because: (no reason given)