the end or the beginning but it's totaly crazy !!!

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In my humble estimation it seems to me to be...The Beginning....of....THE END!!!!!!!!!!!

i know in my heart that its a mass awakening and a spiritual evolution and ascension to a higher dimension.That is why so much # is going on in a small amount of time because some people are trying to stop the masses from awakening to their nature that we are spiritual beings having a physical experience.Dont buy into all the doom and gloom # its all a distraction to stop you from evolving spiritualy.This is just what i know in my heart i'm not saying believe what i say, just go with what you feel in you heart.

now i will push the buton a littel beat far...

something i experience now , make yourself confortable and in a quiet place like meditation, now listen ! not the noise around you, not your inner voice, listen carefully, you will hear yourself, there no voice no sound the perfect and beautiful silence of yourself, and this silence is calling and he tell me it's time and have the strenght to stand because it will happen fast, i'm not preaching, i 'm not trying to convince people i'm just expressing what i feel

there is no proof to give ... no warning, no prophecy, it will happen fast this just what i feel.

please give this members thread credit and the one I`m exposing which eplains there is no need for niburu, scientists have discovered the reason,you are not alone and this discovery is probably why were all acting weird and for that matter the world,it takes sometime to digest the implication but it is there. www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thank you for this thread, OP. There are other similar topics, but this one makes perfect sense to me. Or maybe not sense, but I know very well, what you mean . I´ve felt it about a year now (more strongly than before) and it´s getting more intense. Not fear, rather anticipation, that something is going to happen, probably sooner, than most think and it´s going to be something unexpected. Maybe social crisis is needed to start building new kind of society. But really, noone knows what´s to come. It´s problem to me too, that most people seem stupid and shallow - I usually don´t want to say this, because it´s like I think I´m better. Not that, just most of them are not interested in anything, ignore everything that´s going on in the world, talk mostly about work, money and things. I really feel like an alien and sometimes it´s hard, if you see world differently all the time.
I´m not big fan of new age teachings either, same reasons like you have - too much money making and too much "one and only right path to enlightment." I like to meditate and it has changed me more sensitive, but I´ve also understood, that good energy flows best if you are doing something you love. This summer I was at concert, where one of my favourite singers performed - very joyful music, lots of colors, people were in very good mood, jumping, smiling, shouting - and then I realised it to the full - best energy, love, is flowing most freely and strongly in this kind of situations. In past I tryied all kinds of spiritual practices, affirmations etc, they just gave me stress, because I was bored and felt, that I don´t do it good enough etc. Now I just repeat sanskrit mantras, because I like how they change my inner state, I listen chill music, enjoying little things and waiting some big surprise to happen .
Another thing I don´t like about new age is all those hierarchies. Why should angels or other high beings have an hierarchy? Or federation or whatever. OK, people use terms they are familiar with, but still, I´ve never liked that. Very highly evolved aliens come to Earth because some hierarchy sent them here? I don´t think highly evolved people need someone to give orders. They are smart enough to know what´s best and they are free. I feel, that this is something we as a species are heading towards, but this takes time.
Ok, last part is a bit offtopic, just wanted to add, because new age was mentioned.

reply to post by Amandla

Not fear, rather anticipation, that something is going to happen, probably sooner, than most think and it´s going to be something unexpected. Maybe social crisis is needed to start building new kind of society.

we are in actualy,
When i look at how society act and how people need to blame to feel secure, m'i wrong i don't know, should i have right i don't think so because my reality is diffrent from yours and from others and don't feet to your because this my reality.
What could i do just try to connect myself with other reality and let the emergence of this new reality.
All these story about illuminati and disclosure did you notice something, people say we are manipulated they hide the truth but people do nothing else even no one really takes that decision to quit ... Why? becasue this our reality and no one realy want to leave it, they are just waiting a savior or something happen, no one take the real decision to move the things, disclosure project do nothing and they will do nothing because it is a business there is money in games, dvd to sale, is rotten from the inside . and it's just an exemple and you can see it at all levels of society. but now things a moving and we can do nothing to change it because earth a making a new move a new evolution and will have to follow or to leave.

I really feel like an alien and sometimes it´s hard, if you see world differently all the time. I´m not big fan of new age teachings either, same reasons like you have - too much money making and too much "one and only right path to enlightment."

you are an alien and then ! be a happy alien then a miserable normal guy , do what you have to do nobody can judge you because nobody have that power.

I don´t like about new age is all those hierarchies. Why should angels or other high beings have an hierarchy? Or federation or whatever. OK, people use terms they are familiar with, but still, I´ve never liked that.

and you are right, the only things i can tell you in my opinion is we are far far from what we expect


we must be just who we are respectful and embraced this new life

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sure there is no need for niburu i give you this credit.

reply to post by pitchdragon


Exactly, people keep on talking how NWO is manipulating with them, but they still go to work, to school, doen´t change anything, what´s the point talking then? There already are other ways of life, alternative communities and such all over the world.

But about social crisis I actually ment total collapse of western society. It might happen very suddenly and it might be natural course of development as teenage years are nessesery to grow up and gain independence.

Despite everything negative I still like that I live in these interesting times of changes. Knowing that makes me happier alien

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I agree about spirituality. It raises connotations that "it" wasnt already there to begin with. Its also why i didnt mention it at all. The quest for spirituality is interesting, to this one. At what point does one move their perspective from the "have not" to the "have?" Most will constantly claw their way, always thinking they have not, and will never make the transition to have. This applies to many, many aspects of life beyond "for profit" spirituality. Love, happiness, peace.. Does one "have" or does one "not have?" It is a choice.

My favorite quote about ascension or transcendence is that it "loses its meaning in the rubble from whence it came." There is no great escape, this is it, and this is wondrous in its complexity (to put it mildly).

The love most certainly is not gone, many here have just chosen differently. But not everyone has chosen that road of fear, doubt, and anger. Many are choosing a different one, and this one hopes to push things along in that direction. As this one sees it, instead of choosing where to direct ones love, and by extension choosing where not to direct ones love, we should simply let it radiate and flow. Not here, or there, but both. Not inside, or outside, but all ways.

As far as "the end," what does it matter if its two years from now, or eighty? These bodies are headed that way, period, and it was destined to happen right from birth. "The end" was coming since the very moment of your birth. Perhaps when such things are staring humans directly in the face, they will be more apt to live and love freely, but it is a "personal" decision and journey. There is a strength derived from that visualization, and not a great many need to latch onto it truly to make a difference. Things such as this tend to be exponential in their growth. We will see what choices are made, but no matter what happens, it will be ok

I mean, "why take it so seriously? none of us are getting out alive anyway!"

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i'm with you in that one, i don't care if the government is hiding something i don"t care if nobody wants to disclose information about UFO, or whatever ... these are just pictures of the world in which we are living it's an obsolete world, all what we live actualy is already part of the old world, even this conversation is just an expression of this reality, it no longer exists because this world is driven disappear, giving way to something else, if you want to continue believing that we are sheep manipulated so you will live it, as regards the ufo is an image to keep in mind this reality the more you seek to understand and the more you will stuck on it.
I do not know if we will have the opportunity to verify this, but I think we will experience something like a bug in a program, we will increasingly experience things beyond us and if you seek to understand the Because then you will be swept away in the whirlpool, the only way to avoid being swept away is to let go to tell that this old world is not for you, I deliberately started this thread asking this question do you think this is the end are the world become mad ?, I wanted to know, and there's just a few "people who responded but the others still continues to make noise about the subject that stuck in this old world ... how many of them really want to know something else? how many of them are really ready to know.
spirituality is just a word like love, words from this old world I could tell you I'm just a picture of this old world and I'm already living the new one and i made the decision to send a message in a bottle and who reads it may be able in turn to help other person to cross the wall.
Free to those who want to stay as they are chosen, the one who choose the other way will know what to do.
the boundary that separates us is fine and I am glad to discuss with you,the most important thing is not to believe me as I say this because this conversation is over ... so forget it, the goal is not to influence people but just to be yourself without any echo. ..

all these crazy things you see are there to keep you in this old world, so let it, do not get distracted ... what you are looking for, if you look for it ,is just there, this is the last race .

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why take it so seriously? none of us are getting out alive anyway!

that is the key it does not matter if you estimated that you finish what you have to do.

Originally posted by EssenSieMich
Some people are just stupid beyond comprehension but most are just afraid to consider that everything isn't what they think it is. They want things to be normal so bad that all of the evidence in the world no matter how it is presented will not shake them out of their comatose denial. A study was done about this concerning the Jews after Hitler took power. The majority of them simply refused that things would not get back to 'normal' and all of the bad things were just a temporary phase. And no matter what happened to them along the way, they refused to believe it would continue.

maybe your pointing out people that were looking through rose-colored glasses.. eternal optimists


whereas the OP was speaking of persons that were oblivious to the world around them, who are so
captivated by their own dramas that being led to the gallows is not in their vocabulary...

Oh, "EssenSieMich"....you forgot to say please...bitte

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we touch an important point ... it is always about choices ...

reply to post by pitchdragon


I don´t believe anything, but I must say I really like to read your thoughts, though we are different, but everyone is different. Still, more popular threads are mostly boring. I´m on the stage, where I have realised, that I´m sleeping, but I don´t know yet, how to wake up. I hope Earth is helping . Letting go is always good idea, I´m kind of taoist and I know, that things get easyer if I let go, but it´s easier to say than done.
Btw, do you know singer and performance artist Laurie Anderson? My long time favourite. She is pure genius IMO and her songs are very deep and hypnotic, new or old world I don´t know, but they tell a lot to those who understand. Your saying that we are like pictures reminded me some of her songs, where she repeates, that some things are just pictures.

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I don´t believe anything

this the key to free your thought, more you look to know and more your go deeper in this reality, like a fish you can not grasp...

but I don´t know yet, how to wake up

in my sens you are more awake then you think you are in my opinion looking for an evidence something amazing
but it's just a mater of choice.
today i was walking in a crowed place a lot of car and people, but the only thing i was hearing was the bird because this the only things i wanted to hear... i don't wait for something amazing because i'm already living something amazing this not hollywood this not a movie with a lot of FX this is just life and life is simple.

but this is my reality and as i say you have yours

do you know singer and performance artist Laurie Anderson

this women is the message in the bottel

Some thoughts to ponder....

Everyone moves at a diffirent pace. Their reasons for doing so are not important as only the final destination is important. Yes I know people who live for their gadget, for their routine and for the $ or £ sign and fortunatly for them they will see the big picture one day.

IMO its all down to power, and there is a huge gulf between those that refuse to lead their own lives and those who are entangled in this false society. But, when the real disasters become everyday events they will waken up.

It realy takes only a modecum of rational thinking to see that all is not well here on "Mother Earth" The bigger pieces of the jigsaw are now being shown, pieces such as changing weather patterns and animal deaths, the floods, droughts and freezing temperatures and the gradual crumbling of the very infrastructure that led us to a material world.

Personally I walked away from the "rat race" in 2006 and like others I feel no fear. I also spent time being so frustrated by others refusal to see the truth, the events and the gradual unfurling of this story.

I need no evidence to know things have been changing. From time itself to the fear being shown by TPTB. I have always known that their was a huge importance to 2012 and my belief has got stronger as we go along the disaster strewn path to that date.

Love the people important to you and let the children be children for as long as possible.

Respects to you all.

Originally posted by pitchdragon
in my sens you are more awake then you think you are in my opinion looking for an evidence something amazing

Yes, that´s right, maybe because I´ve felt all my life that something amazing is happening in my lifetime. Something completely different. But I have no idea am I right

. I´d like to be more awake in a sense, that I want to know, not guess. Sometimes I can´t understand how most people can take it like a normal thing, that they don´t know anything! Opinions are not knowledge and scientific knowledges change all the time too. That´s right I´m looking for an evidence and I´d like to see how others live on different planets, because I don´t like this one that much

. Of course there are good and beautiful here too, but it´s mostly cruel and hard place, not much fun. For example - nature is beautiful to look at, but there is so much suffering.

edit on 21-1-2011 by Amandla because: Appearently I don´t remember how to quote anymore :S

Was just reading this: www.tierramerica.net... Because birds from my country home disappeared about week ago and I was looking... evidence of something again . Anyway, it´s creepy if you are used to see birds in birdfeeder all your life and mostly in the middle of winter and now it´s suddenly complete silence. I still don´t understand, what this means.
But reading these articles and knowing how honeybees disappeared couple of years ago you would guess, that on normal planet people would come together and do everything they can to save their home, but most people just don´t care and pretend like life continius the way it is forever. Like they´re blind. If this is not totally crazy, then I don´t know what it is :S.